I saw this post on another board. It made me so sad. Please be carefull

Kept trying to access the story and nothing happened.
How about writing about what happened since the site is not working well ?

Yes..their server seems to be quite slow.  It did eventually open the page for me.  But try this link to the front page of the paper.  I beleive the one about "Gia" is the one referenced above, however the "Children of the Night" article is also quite disheartening.  Haven't yet been able to read the third one, yet.  Wassup with their frickin' server??

Those girls took all the risks, made all that money, and they handed it (mostly willingly) over to a parasite bastard.

Reading that story was very, very sad. I have been reading stories like that for years. Personally, I rarely see anyone in the bars I frequent who look under 21, never mind under 18.
While sad and disturbing, I wouldn't exactly call that another reason not to frequent the bar gals.
I just talked to a provider in my area who is my age and mentioned in conversation how comfortable I am with providers close to my age and that I wouldn't even consider anyone, bar or not bar, who was under 25, never mind under 18.

And I'm sure it was her pimp that taught her how to steal. Most pimps teach their girls get the money by any means possible.

But for some reasons  they still stay with the "P"

So you ask WHY ??
well why does a wife who is abused by her husband stay with him and even protects him by saying - "Oh this bruise I got because I fell"

Some attention is better then no attention .
Low self esteem
Are two main reasons why .

and I don't want to hear - she can't leave ! She is scared .
In this country they offer plenty of support systems to help .

They don't want help . They enjoy what they call "the game "

More about "the game" you'll have to wait and read in my book

This is the motto they are taught in their game ........

"I get as MUCH as possible and do as LESS as possible."

This was a quote a "P" girl said to me .

If you ask them do they have a "P" of course they will say no. But you can tell if they do or don't . Of course you guys can't see it because your too busy looking at the hot body or the big boobs

If they really cared about giving a great service they wouldn't be in the bars in the first place . You can't keep track and write reviews about a bar girl .........that is what they count on .

And for those of you who say they always have great luck with bar girls ( well not all bar girls are bad , but most are ) ...... ok so you got lucky . Hope you luck doesn't run out .

Pimps are the lowest form of life on the planet.

You're writing a book? Are you taking orders for it yet? I don't want to miss out on the chance to get a copy of it. I know it will be good!

If you think that's raw, consider how many so-called independents are pimped out. How many brothel girls are pimped out. How many Craig's List girls are pimped out. You get the idea.

Like me, you never ask the Q unless you already know the A. So feel free to fire away...

OK, I'll "consider" how many of the ladies that you mentioned are "pimped out". The problem is, I don't have any freaking idea, and I don't think you do either.

I chronicled on the general board, how a Tampa escort that I used to see, was having her cash burned through by her BF. But he wasn't sending her out to hotels to peddle ass, or pushing her in front of moving cars, he was just sitting on his ass at home, and she was tolerating it. So does that make him a pimp?

We've all seen the movie image of Harvey Keitel in Taxi Driver, pimping out Jodie Foster's character. And I've seen an episode of COPS, where Vegas LE arrested this girl, and her pimp was down the street, hanging around to see what would happen. The girl was terrified, claiming that her pimp would beat her with a clothes hangar if she didn't do what he wanted. The Vegas cops talked sense to this frightened child, and explained what options she had available to her.

I also saw a documentary piece on a NV brothel. Very normal couple, he was a free lance computer programmer who worked at home, and she worked at a brothel. They had a young daughter. He was perfectly OK with her work, even got off on her telling him stories about her clients, and they seemed to be making it work. Is this guy a pimp?

I know a number of indies in Vegas and in other places, and I know something about their personal lives in some cases. Every one of those gals is calling their own shots by and large. Sure, a few have had abusive relationships, but so have a number of other women in the US.

I'm not saying that there aren't indies who haven't been pimped out, but until we have a true definition of the word, it's tough to say who has and hasn't been "pimped"

MfSD>>>>

As you say SO-CALLED independents . They are not what I consider the "true independents" . All the TRUE  independents I know do not have pimps .


Yes some brothel girls have pimps . Just because they work in a brothel doesn't mean they don't have a pimp . Same for escort agency girls . In fact most escort agency girls have pimps .
Working for an agency doesn't mean you don't have a pimp .One has nothing to do with another , unlike most guys think .........but she doesn't need a pimp , she works for an agency.


The modern day pimp isn't like the old days you see in movies , he used to set her up with "tricks" and would be there to protect her . The modern day pimp is just there to collect the money and spend it .......but like I said more details about all that and the different types  of pimping you'll just have to wait to read in my book .


Craig's list ?? Not for sure what that is I can only imagine .....but if it is a list of girls who work for him and hand him over all their money ( or most of it ) then yes that is called pimping .


The TRUE independents do not have pimps .....only Uncle Sam ( IRS ) is the one pimping me out  LOL LOL LOL

Yes I am writing . It will only be published when I retire so it will still be awhile .
When the time comes it will be available for sale on my site and announced around the community ....... I am sure you won't miss it .

Hope Oprah will still  be around  LOL LOL

You can also catch the movie !

Very good points MFSD .

I guess the definition of pimp can mean different things for different people . As GFE means different things  for different people . There is no ONE way to define .


But basically in my mind  ( and how LE defends this term ) a pimp is someone who lives off a ladies earnings from prostitution . It doesn't matter if it is a hard core pimp ( she is forced and beaten to bring home money )
or a soft core pimp ( supporting a loser BF who sits at home and does nothing but spend the money )


When a wife decides escorting is her profession , but the husband has his own income ......well at that point he isn't living off the earnings of the "professional" he has his own income , so he isn't pimping her .............Of course that could be in many eyes something to debate about and it really depends how you feel about it ....... Just as we debate is a CBJ considered GFE .......well for some yes and for some no .
There is no ONE answer .


Try to also define what does "A LOT of money"  mean ......... it is all relevant

Yeah it will be sold ! Not telling here all my answers

BTW Was wondering why you are using an alais to make your posts ??

Just a community type web site that started in San Fran and now has sites for most major cities.

Didn't someone say, "PIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAMMMMPPPP"?

Is someone getting touchy because the use of this word ?

Did we have to worry about being "politically correct" ??
Cause in my book , I just speak the truth . and if someone  can't handle the truth , well then they don't have to read this board .

My words are not to offend anyone , My words just tell it how it is . No need to trip .

Cindy, LOL LOL,  You make me laugh, I can only picture you sitting at home looking at the screen with this cute look on your face thinking "what the f@$k was that???"  As you once said to me, You are cute.

B-Pop

PS You know I love this Pic, In the words of the great poet Snoop Doggy Dog, You don;t love me, you just love my doggy style......WOOF, WOOF {:

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YOU Are too cute !!!!

", I can only picture you sitting at home looking at the screen with this cute look on your face thinking "what the f@$k was that???" "

That is EXACTLY what happened !

BTW that's my favorite picture too. You are to much ! LOL LOL
Will get to your email later , now gotta get to bed ,
Night baby , xoxo your cyber GF

Do 13 year old girls really look 21?  

That story is very sad but at the same time almost hard to believe.