This may be the biggest case of YMMV that I've ever hear of - and I'm withholding the provider's name for the time being (for reasons below). Depending on how things work out, I will submit a full review eventually.

Recently I took a trip to Vegas and arranged to see a well known provider who has great reviews (I think her average is 8+ from her 50+ reviews). She was pleasant on the phone and through email and I was really looking forward to our date. When she showed up, I was amazed - She was even more good looking in person then he photos and as we sat and talked I began to think that I had made a fantastic choice in her. She had asked for me to bring the money with me and at this point, feeling like everything was going well, against my usual procedure, I handed it over to her. (my first mistake - paying up front)

After having a drink and getting to know each other we decide to return to my hotel room. On the way she wanted to play some blackjack and told me "don't worry, I'm not a clock watcher". So we sat down for a few hands and that's when things start to go bad - after half an hour, I done and say we should take a break and come back, her reply is "but we're having fun" and again "Don't worry, I'm not a clock watcher". After another hour or so, she get's in to a disagreement with a drunk young couple from LA (who were being rude to the dealer) which eventually grew into a shouting match while the other guy dragged his wife away from the table. After a few more hands, I was able to convince her that she should get back to the room (and yet again I was reassured that "don't worry, I'm not a clock watcher"). On the way to my room, she checked her cell phone and realized that it was almost 3 am (she had been playing blackjack for more then 3 hours). She then said she needed to call her babysitter and let her know that she was going to be late (which seemed reasonable) - of course she could not get any cell reception where we were so she said I'll be right back and slipped around the corner (My second mistake was letting her out of my sight). Of course she disappeared - never to be seen again and did not answer her cell phone for the rest of the night or the entire next day.

Since I have left Nevada, I have exchanged emails with her. Her
explanation was that her period showed up early and that resulting mess was very embarrassing for her. So she snuck out and went home and was too embarrassed to answer my calls. I would like to believe her, so as a matter of principal,  I have written back requesting half the money I gave her back. What are the odds of her even responding ?

1) Unless you're going to name names, you should just chalk it up to bad luck and let it go.

2) If you do name this person and write the review, expect that it's going to be taken down.  Just get it out of your system and let it go.  There's little point in holding a grudge.

3) It's not uncommon to pay up front, esp for short sessions (1-2 hours) where you get to business right away.  

4) In any case, you are paying for her time.  Blame yourself for not taking better control over the situation.  It's a bit wrong that she didn't warn you ahead of time about her personal problem (the good ones hide the fact extremely well and you'd never know it) but the little head might have won out anyway.  I wouldn't expect to see any money back.

Bob

I completely disagree!! Why do you say if he puts up a review it would be taken down? On what basis?

Yes, we pay for "time", but with the expectation that we will have a decision in how it will be spent. Funny how everyone thinks it is okay to "slam" agency girls (which I agree are the worst for "ripping you off"), but somehow this is different??

Prior good reviews or not, this provider's name needs to be posted. In a way, you owe me (as a member) that much. That is the reason I keep a memebership...so we can all learn from each other and hopefully avoid those "bad" escorts who lurk out there. Otherwise why even have this site?

If she has any integrity, she will accept his offer of returning half. At that point, he can post here that she has "made things right". As for the negative review, let that be a lesson to her to handle things better next time.

I think this lady should be named. For her to knowingly take your hard earned money, then sit there and play black jack with it, and then skip out on you..... Friend, you're being a lot more charitable then I would be. If a lady is on her period, then she shouldn't be working during that time frame anyway, unless she and her client have worked out a specific arrangement.

If her period arrived unexpectedly, say when you were having drinks, she should have worked that out with you then and there, perhaps certain activities, and a modified donation. She had viable alternatives, but chose not to excercise them......

The fact that she didn't volunteer to return ALL of your money, speaks additional volumes about her integrity. And the fact that you are only looking for half, speaks volumes about your compassion. That she asked you to bring the donation with you when you met for drinks........it's pretty obvious that she was working you.........

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I do agree that you should post the name of this lady.  With out it all we have is nothing.    No need to go on as the others have said it all.

Don't pay up front! I did this at one time and never got burned, but I have heard so many stories of ladies going to the car to get something, or to give a taxi driver some money, or any of the stories you hear about rip off artists.

Even with her 50+ great reviews, you need to out her if what you've said is true, what she did was just not right and to sit there the whole time and tell you not to worry shes not a clock watcher, WHAT!!!

If you want to treat her to the black jack table after the session, thats great, I'll take ladies to Dinner, Shopping and in the event you really click breakfast or lunch the next day but don't do it before unless already planned out in advance for a dinner date or what ever.

I think she should have been up front about her problem if she was having her period. I hate to say this since you comment about her having over 50 stellar reviews and this may have been just a bad day/night for her, but if she ripped you off, you have to let the fellas know.

please tell us who this Lady(??) is so the rest of us dont have the same experience.  to bad a Lady with so many glowing reviews did somehting like this.  that sux

Half?  If she was anything less than a complete rip-off artist you should be getting the full amount back.

I agree with most of what has been said. You need to post a review!!! The reason we are all members is to see what other have to say about there time spent with the lady!!! Yes the money was for her time but based on what I read you didn't want to play blackjack that was her idea!!!! I think she owes you a refund or at least a free session!!!!! I can tell you in my opinion you got ripped off!!!!!

type of provider is giving everyone else a bad rep.  To think that she didn't know her period was coming on (in this case) is a total joke.  She wanted the cash and for some reason not you.  I'm surprised that she has allowed it to go this long and not refunded you. She's betting you'll chicken out and not post.  Post we all need to be made aware.

Sometimes Top providers will ask for money upfront because they have been burnt many times before ..........


BUT if she is truly a TOP lady in this town she should have no problem giving you your money back , not half of it ...all of it !!!,(  if your side of the story is exactly what happend .....well there is always two sides of a story There was once before a client who made a post about a top provider , telling his story asking if others thought he was ripped off or not .......come to find out he didn't EXACTLY tell the story how it was   )


This is strange for a lady to have so many glowing reviews , but yet do something like this .......... there is no excuse , no such thing "oh maybe she is having a bad day" ..... if she was , then she should return the money !!


If she doesn't , well maybe time to tell the truth !!

What I also don't understand is .... what did she mean lets play some blackjack ??? was that part of the appointment plan ?
Was the appointment for an hour ? two ? longer ?

If it was an hour or two appointment she should have first gone to the room then later go play blackjack .

Geez it is stuff like this that gives us TRUE ladies a bad name ;-(
Maybe time to expose .
xoxo CindySpice



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Now that's a Lady with CLASS!!!!! And if you look at her website she's great looking too and a body to die for!!!! I just hope I see her before I die and I'm only 47!!!!!!

I agree with Cindy..and most of the above...let's get the name of the provider out in the open and #1 see how she handles the issue... and #2 give the rest of us a heads up if the finale is acceptable to you. Just my thoughts.........

you will allow her to get away with it again...maybe tonight.  If you think withholding her name will give you a chance to get your money back...forget it.  It's gone.  In fact naming her is probably your only chance of getting the situation resolved assuming you would post again to let everyone know it has been taken care of.

Paying up front is one thing, but she asked you to bring the money with you...downstairs?  She had you set up from the start.

I have to agree with all parties above.  This provider must be "outed" and her name known, if only to protect the other people in our "community".  Assuminng your side of the story is accurate, I believe you are entitled to a full refund of your money, and that you're being too generous.

Go ahead and write that review.  It will only help to clear the air.  And if this provider is really one that is deservant of 50+ good reviews, she'll make good or explain herself.

I can understand wanting to play BlackJack, I have a well documented BJ addiction but damn not before sex...well actually before, during and after is fine with me,,, but you know what I mean.

I love hearing a response like this from a provider, you are not only a beautiful woman, but also wise and all knowing. Keep telling it like it is you sexy thang

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I am all for Master E getting his moneys worth and if the story is true the provider should be properly admonished in a review. What concerns me is since I am not familiar with mr E as a regular poster, my first fear is that this post may be a set up to blast someone unfairly once again. Cindy you and other ladies I am sure have found unflattering reviews in your profiles that you could not even remember such a client. There are individuals out there for business and personal reasons want to discredit some of the ladies. Lat's face it the way we tell people to avoid agencies you should expect backlash just for spite. Add to this personal vendettas, and you can see how this board and reviews can be used strictly to hurt people.

Once again, if Master E was truly wronged I feel he should post his review and hopefully he will find satisfaction. Let's just hope that is done truthfully and not some fantasy for the sake of personal attack.

Yes you are right , at times false reviews are posted ....as I also have one  that is totally BS ........but I didn't  even bother to try to get it off because any intelligent guy can see right through the false review .


As I said in my other post ........IF this story is true , go ahead and say who it is . Of course if it is  a lie  ( maybe made by an agency or a jealous provider ) to attack falsely a top provider , well ,  there can be ways to prove who is telling the truth and who is lying ......... I will reveal how if it gets to that .For now lets just wait and see what is next .


I don't think the client should hurry and post any name .If this story is true , give the lady a chance to correct her mistake .
If she doesn't , then go ahead .
But if this story is made up ........ Yes we will find out
I have a detective mind and I know how to use it
xoxo CindySpice

I can understand some hesitance, as I am not a frequent poster on this board. I usually post on SFRedbook (being that I’m from the Bay area) and only lurk on this board when I’m taking a trip to Vegas. I can also say that I received a phone call from the provider who was very upset about this post. She has offered to return half my money and when she follows through on this I will post my review. Hopefully this will help other people know that she is the kind of person can be trusted to make things right, if a problem occurs. I want to withhold posting her name until we resolve this issue - I think that is fair, rather then jumping to conclusions and not giving her a chance.

Some people say that I’m being too understanding or compassionate, my only answer would be that we really did seem to click. I had a great time with her and she seems like a genuine person who is embarrassed by the situation. If the situation was reversed, I would hope the person I was dealing with would try to be as understand as I have been. I think everyone understands that shit happens, it’s how we deal with it that really tells people about who you are.

Cindy Spice you sure are a class act Ive read your post many times you always make alot of sense.This is just one of the reasons you are a top rated provider.As far as the situation if you are telling it as it is this lady should be known and see what she says and does because this is just plain  wrong.

Reviews have been taken down, rightly or wrongly.  That's a call the staff here makes and I won't argue with that.

The point I was trying to make was that MasterE should get his info out, hopefully both a review and a post, and let the matter rest.  I've seen too many posters go on a vendetta or hold a grudge and constantly reply to info about a provider and not let it go.  First, it makes the poster look bad.  Second, life's too short.  Third, hopefully a lesson was learned and he won't get burned again.  These forums exist to exchange information and hopefully get value for services rendered.  Some lessons need to be learned the hard way and while I feel for those people, I'm not terribly sympathetic.

As for what he owes you as a member, I don't think he owes anything.  He could just bite his tongue (or his keyboard in this case) and chalk it up to the typical bad experience in Vegas.  If he didn't post, no one would be the wiser.  The question you should be asking yourself is do you take all the info here as the truth or do you use the information you get here as a guide and make your own judgement call?  This isn't a news organization where fact checking is a must, it's just a bunch of people getting together and telling stories (hopefully based on the facts).

Based on what MasterE said about his recent experience, it does sound like the provider in question left him hanging in a big way.  But like all stories, there's a few sides to the story, his side, her side, anyone else's side, and the truth.  We may never know the truth but hopefully we can learn something from what's being read/told.

Bob

If the story was as you tell it, you're being a freaking saint.  As I will be in LV next week, though, it would be really nice if you post a review.

I have to agree with Cindy..I would never think of acting that way..I have to think the provider was lying about her period..we have all used that excuse..whether it be in high school to get out of gym..or to take a sick day.. you can work with your period..if you know what your doing..and the option should be given to the client..some might actually like that more....we all have bad days..but you act within character....so her actions obviously were ok with her. when I first started reading I though"oh no is this me."but I have never met anyone at a bar..and Ive never gambled.lol.so  who ever it is if its a bad expierence..you should put up a review..but this seems more like a rip off to me...

Before you allow this provider to sweet talk you ..remember how upset you were in the beginning...I really think that in hindsite she would have probably never given half the money back ..till she read ter..and thought " oh shit" he posted about it...you really "clicked" of course.. she was paid  to ....really "click"...now people are going to get upset..but cmon... if you were just some "joe shmoe" you think she would care..no..but I also do worry that you might be some one making it up..I turn away people every day that seem weird or whatever..and I always think.."hhmmnn" will he make a fake review because I did not see him? it can happen...so if this incident really did occur..call it like it is,,... a rip off....

Even though I do say ......give the lady a chance to correct her mistake before exposing her .......... I do mean  that after she does correct it , still you need to say who it was.


Megan is right , she probably wasn't planning on giving the money back till she read this post! If she did want to give it back , this thread would have never started in the first place .

Maybe she thought you would never go public , maybe this has happened before .  Maybe  others didn't want to go public about it . They chalked it up and she thinks she can get away with stuff like this . Now someone is willing to come forward and OOPS , BUSTED!


We are all human and we can all make mistakes , but this really is not a type of mistake I expect from a top provider

In fact any top provider I can think of would have never left you in the casino in the first place .........period or not ......since when are we shy to talk about getting our period ?? Any top provider knows the proper way to behave .
What is right and what is wrong and what is fair . There is no excuses for making a wrong choice in this case .


Of course this post applies only if this posters story is really true !
Time will tell , xoxo CindySpice
P.S. BTW my detective mind does have a suspect because something I know  has happened before ......but my lips are sealed because I don't say anything unless I know it is a fact !  

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I try to make sense ,  Although sometimes when writing something it can be read wrong .


Of course what I write is my point of view and some can agree  with what I say , while others may not .  But hey it's a free country .


My opinion of a Top Provider isn't just someone who gives a good service . there is much more to it .
Being reliable and responsible ...........as in answering emails , returning phone calls , answering your phone , not being a flake ,  showing up to the  appointments , being on time ( and if your running late .......it can happen.......call the client let him know )
If there is problem , let the client know  . A Top provider knows how to communicate with her clients .
Being classy in public ,ok to be slutty in the bedroom  ( As guys always say I want a lady on my arm , a whore in the bedroom LOL  LOL )
Being presentable, taking care of your appearance  ( showered , clothes , hair , nails , ect )
These are just some of the basic things it takes to really be a top provider ( in my opinion)


I think it makes sense .
xoxo CindySpice

Well DUH,  its been said a bunch... RELEASE HER NAME.  What good does this info do to anyone if we don't know who it is. It appears this may have been a new "hobby" for you since you let it drag out and made some poor decisions(even by your own admission). If she is/was a  well reviewed provider, evidently something has changed and we should all know about it so no one else gets burned.  Do you really think your going to, or should , get your money back?  Yes YMMV,but , and not giving this name out will have everyone questioning everyone .  Chalk it up to YOUR bad lack and poor judgment.  There are too many fantastic providers and they should not be clouded by this providers poor judgment and tactics.

This persons name should be released JUST AS if the hobbyist had done the provider wrong. The fellow Providers need to know who the bad clients are.

My friend, you were ripped off if the story is accurate, pure and simple. Write the review and were I you, I would expect ALL my money back. Someone else suggested that she might offer a freebie session or something to make this right. Why the hell would you ever want to do business with her again? I sure wouldn't! This is total BS from any provider.

What the hell is the sence of this WEB site if things happened the way you say and YOU don't post a review ?

Why only half your money?  Does she feel she deserves half?  You my friend have been taken.  DEMAND she return ALL your money!!

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Cindy, Every provider out there should read this post and follow it to the letter, I can't tell you how many times a lady has been running late and won't call to say "Hey I'll be there in another half hour" Thats all it takes sometimes, Just keep us informed, let us know if something comes up and you have to come late or even cancel, Also take the time to look good, I have a few women, even more so younger ones that show up looking like they just woke up with barley any makeup.

I'm sure you expect us to be clean and dressed nice when you show up the least we as clients can do is ask the same. Yes we do like our ladies to be women in public and slutty in bed, but we also like them to look good for us and act with some class when dealing with us on the phone, thru e-mails and in public or the bedroom.

I think most people on here have spoken and if this matter with him getting ripped off isn't soon taken care of he has to out her on the board and force her to explain what went down.

Big Poppa

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Some can provide a great service ............but doesn't mean they can be professional !

No it isn't to much to expect. Yes I expect my clients to do and be as I am . Responsible , Reliable and Clean .

What you ecxpect from others you must first also do .
Treat others how you want to be treated .

That's one of my mottos in life ,
xoxo CindySpice

My fellow friends!  I am the one that he is talking about, and unfortunately, for me this thing that has happens honestly was out of my control!  I was diagnosed with cervical cancer about 3 weeks ago....my doctor told me that, if anything, my menstrual would be delayed, .....unfortunately, while I was on this wonderful,(at the middle of the date), I felt that my water had burst, as when I gave birth to my beautiful daughter, instead of water I ended up with............well you know!  My menstrual was not due until the following week......you have no idea how I felt....didn't know what to do.....so I ran to my car and left to go home and clean up!  Now, you tell me what you would have done? I didn't check my email until a few days later because this past week I have been at the doctors getting my daughters hearing evaluation done....and so forth....I didn't answer my phone because I was embarrassed as you ladies I am sure, could only imagine, what it's like to have blood all over your pants.....I have contacted this person and am more than willing to give him half of what he paid me for more than the time that was to be expected, and yes, as far as the gambling went...originally it was not in the itinerary, but it happend and I am not a clockwatcher when I see my clients....I am not a thief, nor a rip off......Just a very embarrassed human being...I apologized to this person, and that is that...if you have any questions, please feel more than free to email [email protected]

Truly and Sincerely,

xoxo chrissy

Lots of good points here.   I have never not had a lady call and let me know what's going on if they are running late or can't make it.  I will add that as I've gotten to know some of the ladies better they will come just dressed as they are. I don't have a problem with that at all.  In some ways to me it's nice that they feel comfy enough with me that they can show up in their "real clothes"

Hi,
It's time to name names. If you didn't intend to make the post, then why be a member of this site and why make the original post to begin with ?
Personally, if as you said she does have a great rep. then maybe she will be forgiven as a one time bad mistake on her end.
If not, then we really all should know about this.

I am going to seem heartless but..I feel you probably are lying and then to actually say you have cancer..cmon..my mom just died from cancer,..so to say you have that as an excuse..I am sorry I dont buy it..I think you though to your self , whats the most extreme thing I can say is wrong....they say the truth is  taking both sides ans then meeting somewhere in the middle..the two sides dont add up..I am just very glad people know who it is. so the providers that work hard to wont be cast in an doubting light. I dont understand why you would have so many great reveiews then act like this.. the client said you have 50 plus I have not checked to see. I wonder why you would not have told  your clients that you were dealing with this..my clients know my personal stuff..especially an ilness such as the one you claim to have,..I am old school from the east..you know where they try to sell you the brooklyn bridge if they can..if you do have this ilness I fell  for you..if you are lying,,may you get it and actually know  what it is ..I personally ewould at this point have to see a medical report... and no I dont for one second expect you to publish one..its none of my bussiness..I am just telling you honestly what it would take for me to buy a strory like that

Why only half? You didn't deliver the service.  Either give him all his money back or see if he will accept another appointment where you can make it up to him.

Only ripping off half his money doesn't make it ok.

Yeah it's great when a woman shows up in her street or real clothes and feels comfy enough to do so because you and her hit it off that well, but after you have met a few times. For the first meeting I want the woman to show up looking like a million bucks, or as porn star Candy Cotton did for our first meeting, open the door and be standing there in the buff, now thats hot!

Basically we are dealing with a contract. The provider agrees to provide certain services and the client agrees to pay for those services. If Chrissy Applejade found herself unable to perform her side of the agreement, then she should have refunded the client all of his money that evening.

To me this smells of a RIPOFF!!! plain and simple! First of all, you were PAID to provide a service and services were NOT rendered...cancer or no cancer yet you agree to only refund half the money??/Excuse me??? Because unlike all the "disclaimers" on the escort ads; we (the clients) are certainly not just "paying" for your time. For once let's get real. We are paying a "provider" to "provide services." And in this case those "services" were most certainly NOT rendered. Sorry to sound a bit clinical, harsh, cold, whatever, but as an honest client I am just sick  and tired of evreyone just pussyfooting around this post here. Look, if you really do have cervical cancer or any cancer that is just awful for you or for anyone BUT don't make it the client's problem. The fact that you STILL feel entitled to half this client's money makes me sick and reason enough that I hope every member reading your post stays AWAY from you. Also....I'm sorry but you NEVER continually engage in an activity (playing blackjack) for 3 HOURS!!! when the client REPEATEDLY suggests he would like to "go upstairs."IF indeed events happened as YOU descibe them, why oh WHY did you just not phone the client when you got home and cleaned up , apologize, and agree to refund ALL his money. WOuld YOU not have expected the same?? Sorry, I usually dont get this upset but your story just smells rotten and it just seems you are desparate to cover up your actions. In my book and I am sure most others you are through in Vegas. Good riddance.

you are willing to give back HALF his money? Sorry about your personal problems, but it's not his fault and moreover he shouldn't be punished for your poor judgment. You ran out on him with no explanation and purposely avoided his phone calls. What did you expect for him to do? Forget about the whole thing?

If I was in his shoes, I would demand not half but ALL my money. Nor would I want any freebies or schedule a makeup session. I don't want to spent time on or off the clock with someone who untrustworthy.

I find your story too hard to believe because you contacted this guy AFTER he made his story semi-public.  

Just curious, did you piss away the other HALF of the money at the blackjack tables or was it spent on the violin quartet I heard when I read your sob story?  

The least you can do is give ALL his money back. For a female you really have some balls by skipping out and failing to return his calls and all you can offer his half his money?

Are we allowed to use the word cunt on this board?

We met once for a brief moment because your client is my clients friend .
Yes you  were nice and  respectful towards me .
You were sweet , friendly and charming .
You look like your pictures ........ if not better .


But I know nothing else about you . I can only put two and two together and figure it out ......
Unfortunately I will have to agree with Dreamer42 ( although he was a bit harsh)  Megan and the other posters here .


We all know the client was not paying for you to play 3 hours of BlackJack . Lets not hide behind " you are paying for my time"
We all know exactly what he is paying for !! You didn't deliver as promised ....... you should return ALL the money back .



There are MANY reasons we can get our periods unexpectedly............ YES guys it can really happen .
Some ladies may be like clockwork , some are not .
Some may be on the pill , but forgot to take it on time , causing early bleeding .
Some may be on the Depo shot , and for no reason at all start to bleed .
Stress is also an unexpected reason to get your period early or late .
Being on certain medications can cause change in "that time of the month"
I can go on and on with reasons ( Well who said it was easy being a women ;- ) )


So yes it can happen to the best of us that we get our visit from "Aunt Flow" with out warning .............BUT
what is a bit strange in my eyes is that you say you were so embarrassed you went home to clean up ............. ok I can see not wanting to walk around the Casino  with blood all over your pants or blood dripping all over the casino ( If it was that bad )

But how come the first thing when you got home you didn't call the client to explain and offer a refund ??
You claim because you were to embarrassed to explain this to the client .......... ,
Strange though you are not embarrassed to go public about being diagnosed with cervical cancer . You have no problem sharing personal details about your birth , your daughter ..............but yet you find it too embarrassing to contact a client and tell him --  Sorry I got a woman's problem unexpectedly and may I offer you your money back or make it up to you in any other way .


You also say - " I  didn't check my emails a few days " because you have been to the doctors for my daughters hearing evaluation .........
I didn't know you spend day and night at a hospital to do that
But beside that You didn't have to check your emails , you should have known on your own to take a minute to email the client about what happened ,if you were to embarrassed to tell him over the phone ..........

I just don't feel that embarrassment is really the problem here .


The right thing to do is give the client all of his money back . It may not actually clear your name 100% but at least it is a step towards it
We all make mistakes in life , no one is perfect . But it is how we handle things that  shows others who we are as people .


Coming forward with a sob story isn't what is going to make things better .......................it's your actions that will .
Yes now it will take some time and effort to build the trust back with this community ................but  if you are who you say you are sooner or later you will regain your good rep back .


Never forget , the internet can make you or break you .
That is why some ladies chose to work the bars and agencies and not the net .
You can get away with things for awhile , but sooner or later the net will bring the truth out .

All the best ,
xoxo CindySpice

Not everything the client said as far as 3 HOURS of Blackjack is true!  There were alot of things that Mr. E had said that was around the truth.....I asked him how I could make it all up to him and he asked me to give him HALF back! NOT MY IDEA!!!!!!
I asked him to send me his address so that I could send it, and I haven't heard back from him!  

Now, of coarse a client has every right to complain about what had happend and I am not saying that I was right for how I handled it....I didn't know how to handle it, I have never had to deal with this, and I am in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM SAYING THAT MY PROBLEM IS HIS PROBLEM! Or trying to tell a sob story!

As for what you all say about this, I understand how you all are thinking,.....me being the person that I am, I will not be the one to take revenge on anyone and post some of the screwed up things that he FAILED TO MENTION!!!!!!!! I am going to leave it at this and if people want to CLAIM me being a rip-off, or what ever, then I can't stop those people from putting up on these boards what they will, I barely even visit these boards, and I just feel that there are alot of people that are too competative for my taste, and when something like this ever happens, people take it way too far as to claim that someone is a rip off because of ONE BAD NIGHT!  

I am new to this whole arena,  and ever since I have been online, in the first place, no one welcomed me, just threw it in my face that my first review was false before anyone ever even met me..so I am done with this subject, and if you people want to add more to it, go ahead cause I can't stop you!

Megan,  I am sorry that you had to deal with losing someone due to it, and I am sorry that you think that I am the kind of person that would make something like that up.....And yes I totally agree!  Karma is a *****!  And no, I don't go into detail about my personal life with everyone I meet.  Good for you all that do.  I like to talk about the client and not myself because I want to get to know them, if I talked about my personal life with everyone I met, I would feel like a broken record.....

xoxo chrissy

I have read with a mixture of anger and sympathy the posts that have threaded themselves round this unfortunate incident.

I think that the original poster was wrong to post the story without the name of the provider as any response the lady then makes seems like she has been "flushed from cover".

Give the lady her due she did own up to being the culprit, unfortunately that is about all I can find good to say about the lady in question because she does seem to have made something of a rod for her own back. As Cindy so wisely suggested if you were embarrassed then why not just email the man and explain. It would have taken no more than five/ten minutes or so.

One of the other providers in LV has cervical cancer but she does not use that to hide herself away, she faces up to it and gets on with her life.

I think that the lady should give 100% of the money back to the client and that should be made public on this board. It will then be up to the various users of this service to judge for themselves whether they want to avail themselves of this particular lady's services in the future.
I know where my thoughts on that matter would go.
MI@M

So tell us all again WHY you feel entitled to keep HALF of this particular client's money??? I am sure I am not the only one who
wants to hear your reasoning here.

I wont rehash this long drawn out thread nor do I want a cat fight..but..to me its called A GFE not a broken record....

Cindy Spice and SexyMegan really stepped up and said it like it should be!!!  Thank You - These ladies are class providers!!!!!! They are now on my Las Vegas to do list!!!!

Being presentable doesn't mean you have to wear fancy clothes and jewelry ...... you can also be in comfortable clothes , real clothes .....jeans and a T- shirt but still look presentable .


You don't have to look 24/7 like you stepped out of a Magazine ........ in reality that isn't even possible .
Like if I am spending a 24 hour with a client , there is no way I can be perfect during all those hours
If a client wants to see me very late at night like midnight ........ of course I can't look like I would at 6:00 pm .


But there is a minimal way how you can be presentable  ( it has nothing to do with choice of clothing in fact many clients request I show up in jeans and T shirt   .......I mean stuff like being showered  , legs shaved , manicured , pedicured , Sober ...........stuff like that .

It's not the type of clothes you wear,  it is how you wear them and how you carry yourself .
xoxo CindySpice

Yes girls, please be sober and shave your legs, there is nothing worse than a high woman wanting to wrap her stubly legs around you, LOL

...if they can, why not an alien? After all, all my pals out at '51 are fond of saying, "human beings ARE a fascinating species for observational purposes."



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Cindy, you know I dig a strong woman, although you sometimes overdo it, but I really appreciated this post.

Chrissy, I don't know you nor would dream to judge, but certainly you know the score in Vegas.

Let me lay out the scenario for you: It's so Vegas for a girl to think the guy wouldn't want his dough back, he's just a tourist, just another mark. What's next, you really wanted to give him all his dough back, but your husband objected? That would REALLY be Vegas of you.

Of course, it might not have gone down this way, but both Cindy and I know it's the default mode, which is why she spoke out. Very true about the net, also.

It's called ENGLISH!!!LOL  no harm done!

if the bitch aint paid up by now, she never will...not even half...if she had even an ounce of integrity she'd have already paid him the half she says she's willing to pay...instead of using disagreement over the OTHER HALF as excuse not to pay that portion she even admits herself that she should pay....so ms. cunt, when are you gonna make good?...i'm thinking maybe i should set up an appointment with you, make you work real hard and then take my money back....wouldn't that be kinda the same in reverse?.....you'd be the one who'd had their time wasted and lost money...just as did the client you ripped off...