Let me clear this up right now ,Oldie as in a gentleman that has seen a few ladies in his time.

Let me take this time to point out why some of us girls really dont see the newbies .
Over the last week or so I have had a few no reference contacts .Thats great and all but i have had one gentleman get very offended when I told him I could not see him due to lack of verification.he didnt want to share any personal info at all.Totally understand that part and him wanting to keep this private .
It has been 3 days now and he is still emailing me not wanting to shar any info.

To the new Gents ,we were all new at one point and it took one of us on either end to go out on a limb and see the person with no reference or no review.Please  just respect it when you are not able to meet with a lady for whatever reason.

If you are willing to share info you can 9 times out of 10 see one of us but if your not willing to work with us ,how can we help you ?

I hope that the Gent  understands the saftey factor here .

Also no need to be offended because off the top of my head  I didn't remember you.......
After all I saw you once , 6 and a half years ago..... Hello I don't keep records. You should be happy about that.

If a lady wants a reference she should give me more then -
well you saw him in 2003 and you were his first.........
Ummm Ok you just described almost everyone that I saw in 2003.
 
Since I am newbie friendly if you want me to remember you from that far back you should email me to refresh my memory BEFORE the fact , not after the fact and then gossip about how offended you are. Seriously are you kidding me ??


So "oldies" also need to learn some respect.
And yes newbie if you don't meet the ladies screening criteria , don't take it personally and just move on.

took a chance and knew it would be safe and totally worth it. And it was a thorough screening. But now i have a few references.  Only one time I wasn't screened, but I wasn't worried about it cause I knew the lady was well reviewed.

For some reason I still consider myself a newbie. I don't wanna be an "oldie".

Sharing is Caring

I understand your quandry about the safety factor yet, sometimes you need to take into affect that prior to the technology boom.. 2 references  from providers was not as easy as a an email..
you are entitled to your form of verification yet, maybe you may want to consider when asking for references from another provider please remember that we dont always keep their information on a computer or somewhere that can be recorded..
that is out of safety for the hobbyist ..(though I have endearing code names .ie: kingpin..for very memoreable men/couples)
there are many other techniques of verification that may be helpful to you. the lady above has been a great mentor to me and possibly you can ask her for a bit of help so that you dont lose out on all the great "newbies" that are entering this hobby..
yes, its a chance taker but so is anything in life that is worth going for..
if you look at many of my reviews you may notice I was one of their first reviews..thus, leading them to see some many great ladies afterwards..
I personally whitelist as a form of recognition that they have a great reputation /or were wonderful hobbyists to me..and have shown great care towards others in a respectable manner(this is not against anyone.. some men dont whitelists).. now also check the dates  because no one can be liable for the course a life may take or the trials and tripulations that cause a change in their mannerism..
Stay safe ,be kind, be helpful , stay doing a great job and all should follow for you..you appear to have a nice way about you april plus i love your thin pretty bod!!
Thank you CindySpice for sharing that scenario.. sometimes people forget that we are human too. unfortunately providers feel that we are trying to hold back work out of jealousy .when in fact we are only trying to be honest and look out for all parties involved
much love to you lady!!
Sincerely
Lovely Lorena

I guess a lot of new gents are nervous about the sharing of info.I have really taken a chance over time to work new people in and get them going ,which i am proud of helping.I dont get the same vibe from every person so i cant always do that. I just wish we could take everyones word but in this its not safe to do that.

So far everybody has hit the nail right on the head! I am fairly new to this site and I'm still trying to earn my wings (trust) from some if not most of the gents on here.

I don't like to take any unnecessary chances as much as the next girl. But I know what it feels like to be new people not wanna to take a chance on you so I sometimes agree to see "newbies" if they 1) fill out my screen form. 2) Give a ONE provider references! As long as she is currently posted somewhere so that I can contact her then it shouldn't be a problem. 3) Give me some kind of personal information that I could work with.

I had one guys refusing to give me his last name so that I could verify that he was register to the hotel he was staying in.

GENTS PLEASE READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND....Us ladies (well ME/Myself/I) don't want your personal info so we/I can use it to in the near or far future to blackmail you. I know that in today's day & age you have to be even more careful with who you trust your info with. But it's not like we're asking for your bank info, SSN, or home address. (well I less I don't)

Just a little that makes us ladies feel more comfortable with seeing you and inviting you into OUR personal space. And I'm not sure about all the other ladies on here but me personal I can be a lot more funnier if I know I'm safe with the gentlemen that coming to see me.

Because in all honesty and fair guys, you guys have ALL the info on us ladies that'll you need to know before you make the call. Our pictures (for those of us that actually use our REAL pics ) our phone number, and all our stats & reviews.

When you call us and we answer we have no clue who you are.

So please work with us in being more understanding of the situation that we're dealing when agreeing to see you if you have no references or reviews.

You know the old saying "gotta learn to crawl before you learn how to walk" And I'll be happy to hold your hand when you do start walking

Play smart & safe.

V.W.

Thats the motto we live by here

Im reference friendly.
actually im a providers' provider.: )
analogy: a players player..
Im just saying sometimes life is not perfect and I know Im a "call girl" but Im not always on call.wink.!!
Im always there for my sisters/hobbyists when they need the help..referrals /references..
Im sure no one can say differently..
I just want others to realize they can also go the extra mile if no one is available to accomodate their immediate needs.. like this example " Hi Im so.so and can you call me I have a gentleman that said he saw you and his handle is this.. and I need the reference..right now asap.. at 1: 00 AM!!..?"
I believe my hobbyists know that I will always go the extra mile.. even if I need to take a text while im in the bath tub!!
hey Im all for the power of the sexual urges
sexy and horny
Lovely Lorena

You go WAY and beyond to be helpful and no you don't have to be there every time someone snaps their fingers.
We are allowed to have a life ,to have another job, to enjoy a bath in peace
If the other person doesn't get it , well then that is their problem.
Some people need to learn the limits.

I am also very reference friendly even though I myself never ask for a reference.
I have my own way to screen.
But if someone doesn't fallow "the rules" I don't worry about them.
What rules ? It is called the rule of "common sense"

sorry I will not answer my phone at 6:00 am because it is 9:00 am in your time zone.
and calling me will not get me to answer faster .
If I am available to give a reference email is the way as I also have to make sure you are who you say you are. ( unless I know you personally )

oops I think I am getting off topic LOL LOL
point is of all this many of us go the extra mile but being demanding and not considerate to the other side is not an attactive quality.
Treat people how you want to be treated.

Lorena don't worry you have been going above and beyond. You
are awsome .

The part about not sharing personal info...not smart.  Yes, privacy is important, but if I were a lady, I would take that with a grain of salt.   Dudes who hide themselves are going to be one-timers...is it worth blowing off repeat or regular clients in lieu of seeing someone new that might remember you the next time he visits?  

Personally, I generally share enough info so that whenever I contact a lady, I almost always get back a positive response.  This isn't a difficult game to play if you work with the ladies...