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Re: OT: another thread says the Star Trek Experience at Hilton is closing... more 411 requested...
morganray 968 reads
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The place has lost it's butt off since it opened. It takes a huge amount of real estate and nobody who it draws actually comes in to go and gamble. Worse yet, Hilton signed a deal with Paramount that was beyond idiotic and they never saw a dime out of it. It was a lose/lose/lose situation for the Hilton any way you slice it.

A good friend of mine was just talking to me about it a few weeks ago. It seems as though there was this "golden child" that Hilton properties recruited and who was their F&B director (or something to that effect) and they promoted him through the ranks rather quickly to President of the property. I'm sure if you google this somehow you'll get all the details but from what I understand, this one guy was responsible for bringing the Star Trek Experience into the hotel and it went WAY over budget and not long after it was opened, they fired this guy faster than you can say, "beam me up, Scotty!" From what I am told, this guy was supposedly untouchable in the company but he screwed the deal up so bad they wanted his head on a platter. That was years ago, and the thing was a money pit they've been trying to get rid of ever since. The contract is probably due now and Hilton wants them out of there at Warp 10.

I'm an unabashed Trekker.

Stopping at Quark's for a drink and a snack and a stroll through the store is almost a tradition for me when in Vegas, and I've lost count of how many times I've done the experience simulations.

This news of the Star Trek experience shutting its doors dismays me, and I can't find anything about it on the web.

If anyone has any info to share on the subject, please. either here, or in a PM would be most appreciated.

(It's no secret Doctor Gonzo has interests beyond sex trikes and rock n roll)

Not much more info than saying that its leaving, but this was on the RJ site from May:

Experience Ending

Hilton Star Trek attraction may seek out new life elsewhere

Operators of Star Trek: The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton might soon be telling Sin City, "Qapla'."

That's Klingon for goodbye.

The lease on the biggest nerd magnet since the International Consumer Electronics Show expires at the end of the year, and a spokesperson for owners Cedar Fair Entertainment Co. told the Web site TrekMovie.com "there are currently no plans to renew" it.

If Cedar Fair were to beam Experience out of the Hilton, it could mark the demise of a 10-year run that has made Las Vegas the center of the universe for fans of the seminal science fiction franchise.


"It is very sad to see them go, because there is nothing else like it on the planet," said Paul Walker, "captain" of USS Las Vegas, a local Star Trek enthusiast club that meets monthly at Quark's Bar and Restaurant, which was named after a character in the television series "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine."

The Hilton is also home to The Official Star Trek Convention, an annual event that attracts thousands of fans.

It isn't officially attached to Experience but benefits from its presence.

Walker said he lived in Medford, Ore., in 1998 when Experience opened and, along with other members of a Star Trek club there, rode a bus to Las Vegas to see it in person.

Walker later moved to Nevada and worked as a cashier at Experience from 2000 to 2001.

The job not only indulged his Star Trek enthusiasm, it also introduced him to his future partner, who had worked at Experience since before it opened.

"I was living a dream at the time," said Walker, 44.

Lately, Walker said, crowds have been sparser and that some fans, called 'Trekkies,' are convinced the attraction has run its course at the Hilton.

"This comes as no surprise to me," said one poster on a Star Trek Web site. "The Experience is long in the tooth as far as modern Vegas attractions go."

Tickets to Experience cost $37.99 and buy access to two interactive rides that use film clips and sound to combine Star Trek fantasies with Las Vegas as a backdrop.

In addition, there is a Star Trek museum called History of the Future that includes more than 200 items and is billed as the largest collection of Star Trek props and costumes in the world.

Retail stores sell Star Trek T-shirts, action figures, costumes and artwork. Wedding packages from $350 to $3,000 are also available.

The Experience also hires actors who wear elaborate costumes and depict different types of Star Trek "races" such as Klingons.

Klingon warriors speak their own fictional language which has been picked up by some hard core fans and used in real-world interactions.

The last major upgrade to the attraction was in 2004, when the Experience was under different owners and the Hilton was undergoing its own ownership change from Park Place to Colony Resorts LVH Acquisitions LLC., the current owners.

Theme park company Cedar Fair got Experience in 2006 when it bought Paramount Parks, a spinoff of CBS, which still owns rights to the Star Trek television series.

Cedar Fair's other properties include Knott's Berry Farm in California and theme parks in Minnesota, Missouri, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ontario.

"Cedar Fair got a thing they really didn't know what to do with," Walker said.

If officials at the Hilton and Cedar Fair are close to striking a deal to renew the attraction's run in Las Vegas, they aren't sharing it with fans.

"At this point, again, absolutely no information is available to the public or to staff," said Chad Boutte, operations manager and marketing director for Experience.

Although no Star Trek television series are in production, another movie is scheduled for release in 2009 which could spur interest in the attraction.

"Our fans are still definitely coming to see us," Boutte said. "It has been a very exciting place."

An official at Cedar Fair's Sandusky, Ohio, headquarters said only, "The contract with the Hilton expires at the end of December."

Hilton spokesman Ira Sternberg said, "We will be more in a position to comment around June."

Sternberg added, "That is closer to the time when either it is renewed or not renewed."

TrekMovie.com editor-in-chief Anthony Pascale stopped short of saying Experience would bolt, but he said it didn't look good for Trekkies who make a pilgrimage to the Hilton as part of their Las Vegas vacations.

"It is the premiere, and right now only, live Star Trek attraction in the world," Pascale said. "A lot of nerd weddings go on at that place."


And more recently, in late June, from TrekMovie.com:
In May TrekMovie first reported that the future of the Star Trek The Experience at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas was in doubt after its contract ended in December. Recently we reported that talks were continuing to the end of this month, but apparently a decision has been made in the last couple of days and the contract will not be renewed. After over 10 years in operation, The Experience will close its doors in early September.


An official announcement is expected early this week, but multiple sources have confirmed with TrekMovie that the decision to close The Experience has been made. Negotiations between CBS, Paramount, Cedar Fair (owners of the Experience) and the Las Vegas Hilton went on longer than originally expected. There was hope that the new Star Trek movie coming in 2009 would help boost attendance, which has been in decline, but not all the parties could come to an agreement. Apparently the Hilton Hotel was the biggest holdout, convinced more money could be made using the space for other purposes.

Employees at The Experience are being informed today of the decision. A press release may be issued as early as Monday morning. The final date is likely to be in the first week of September, after the Labor Day weekend holiday. Although the contract for The Experience ends December 31st, Cedar Fair is required to completely vacate the premises by that time so they will need the time to clear out. No word yet on what will happen with all the rides, replicas and costumes, but all the original props and costumes will be returned to CBS.

The closure of Star Trek The Experience have no effect on the official Creation Star Trek convention being held August 6th-10th at the Las Vegas Hilton. The attraction will be up and running during the event and is likely to spur additional sales for the convention as Trekkies visit it one last time (or for those who haven’t yet checked it out, their first and only time).

Officials from CBS & Cedar Fair have not returned calls or emails yet on this late breaking story. As more information comes to light, TrekMovie will provide updates.



Nicole was a sidekick to a morning radio DJ, so while I'm picking on her, she's currently one of the characters in the Experience so her blog on myspace might be a touch bittersweet:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=53398736&blogID=412469865

FYI she's not a escort (at least I'm not aware that she ever was).  She's been a local entertainer on various LV shows so I think she'd rather not go there but who knows.

Bob

morganray969 reads

The place has lost it's butt off since it opened. It takes a huge amount of real estate and nobody who it draws actually comes in to go and gamble. Worse yet, Hilton signed a deal with Paramount that was beyond idiotic and they never saw a dime out of it. It was a lose/lose/lose situation for the Hilton any way you slice it.

A good friend of mine was just talking to me about it a few weeks ago. It seems as though there was this "golden child" that Hilton properties recruited and who was their F&B director (or something to that effect) and they promoted him through the ranks rather quickly to President of the property. I'm sure if you google this somehow you'll get all the details but from what I understand, this one guy was responsible for bringing the Star Trek Experience into the hotel and it went WAY over budget and not long after it was opened, they fired this guy faster than you can say, "beam me up, Scotty!" From what I am told, this guy was supposedly untouchable in the company but he screwed the deal up so bad they wanted his head on a platter. That was years ago, and the thing was a money pit they've been trying to get rid of ever since. The contract is probably due now and Hilton wants them out of there at Warp 10.

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