at least in the eyes of the classier providers and hobbyists. Repeat after me: H-O-B-B-Y-I-S-T. Good. Now back to the (non-)issue. Several well respected providers post ads in cities they plan to visit to see if there would be any takers. They are looking for 1 or 2 clients to send them a deposit for longer sessions and sponsor the trip that way and once they have two high rollers they fill their schedule with the rest. It is nothing unusual at all. Bitching about it on the board makes you look petty and guarantees that more providers will add you to their DNS list. Bitchiness and drama is a turn off on both ends. Just drop the issue, move on to the next one.

with a prominent provider.  

She advertised on a local board.  I emailed her to ask when she was in town perhaps we could get together.  She provides me with several dates and says I can fly her to me.  I replied that while I am interested meeting, I am not going to fly out someone I had not met.  

Her reply was that it was no big deal, only a couple thousand, to fly her to me; but my failure to fly her out to me meant that she would not cross the street to see me in the future.

If anyone is interested, I'll send you the chain.

If the answer is NO to all of the above, why create drama where none is needed?

Lina

She is advertising availability in a particular city saying she is visiting.  She isn't visting, has no intention of visiting unless her trip is paid for and then is insulting when I have the temerity to say I won't pay to fly out a provider I have not met.

I would have rather known that prior to contacting her.

You had negative experience during email correspondence with a provider.  Cross her off your list and never contact her again.  

Tell her to pound salt if she ever contacts you.


But complaining on the board about big bad provider who told you that you can't see her unless you book travel date  is not a way to handle this.

Like I said, you suffered no damages except for wounded ego.

Lina

So...

A provider advertises that she is visting city XYZ.
She is not visiting city XYZ and has no intention of visiting.
A hobbiest contacts her attempting to get an appointment in City XYZ.
The provider then says she will visit if the hobbiest flies her out.
The hobbiest says, considering that they have never met, he really doesn't wish to fly her out.
The provider then proceeds to require that, even if she happened to be in the same city as the hobbiest, she would expect the hobbiest to pay her again for travel. (i kid you not) and the fact that the hobbiest would not fly her out makes the hobbiest a loser and she would not cross the street to see him.

That's acceptable behavior by a provider.

I don't think she should advertise that she is in a city she isn't and I think she should be called out on it.

Now our email is a communication between the two of us, but there is not personal information contained in any of them.  I excluded the email addresses.  I am also not reporting her name here, unless someone would like to know as they think it may affect them.

Well...

One of the items that you missed, thanks for the spell check BTW, this provider wanted me to pay for her trip to my location.  If another HOBBIEST (just to bug you) wanted to use her services while she was on said trip, she wanted him to REIMBURSE her as well.   Presumbly if she got a third session, the third gent would have to fork up the travel expense yet again.

Based upon the PM's I am getting this is a provider that gentlemen wish to avoid.

Interesting that your post is time stamped prior to my OP.

hobbyists for plane tickets then she should be noted. Imagine that. More then one hobbyist sending her plane ticket money. That is pretty low, not to mention her attitude. She is one to stay away from.

A couple of hobbyists have suggested that this is a scam. I do not believe that it is unless you were to count the part about multiple airfares.  

For example, if Tom flies her to LV for a date and while she is in town Dick and Harry separately arrange appointments, she thinks that both Dick and Harry should cover her travel costs as well as so as not to be subsidized by Tom.  Huh?  

She is of course free to charge whatever she wants for her services, but double or triple counting travel costs just adds to her hourly rate and she should just say so.   She did disclose that she would do this, so in that sense it is not a scam.  

If I know a provider well, I am happy to fly her for an extended date.  I don't choose to do so for someone I have not met.

The provider in question is not on TER.  I believe she was banned.  She advertises throughout the country on site such as EROS indicating she is visiting, but is actually looking for a "Fly Me to You" arrangement.

I will answer PMs regarding my email chain and identify her for those that have a specific interest in the topic.  I am not going to identify her to the general board simply because I really don't have an interest in trashing her publicly.  

I make a post like this (I have done one other) when I observe behavior that I think is outside the lines.  My purpose is not to trash another person, but just indicate that I find the behavior unacceptable. Others can agree or disagree, but I think it serves the interest of the community in helping to define acceptable behavior between hobbyists and providers.

Either you misunderstood what she said or you aggravated her to the point of no return, she told you she wouldn't see you even if you paid for her ticket and now you and are taking it out on her on this board.
Why do I think so? You seem like the type that would do that.
Have you seen this thread (below)? I'm guessing you are a combination of the Bean Counter and the Drama King.
Don't be surprised if one of her clients gets wind of your drama, PM's you and then tells her about your post here. Since you are so keen on warning others about what you perceive as bad business practices, I am sure you will not mind when she warns other providers about your practices.
I bet there is more to the story than you told us.

Interesting.  You go to all of this bother to "warn" other fellows here but yet you refuse to publicly name this individual you are so concerned about.

Thanks for wasting all of our time with your, what I now see as useless, waste of a post.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO! Eom

Wow. Well, you didn't. Move on! Wow the next girl should BE so lucky. Seriously this is a non-issue. Sheesh!

How do you know it wouldn't be worth it, on the presumption you haven't visited with them-but you state you would like to?  Perhaps it's about your budget, and not quality of service. Bass ackwards.

I am not warning anyone of anything.  I am passing on information.

I laid out a manner is which a provider has responded to me and I presume will respond to others.  The point being that, in my view, such behavior was not appropriate.  

Over 400 people read the original post, one thought it was a waste of time:  You.

No, there is nothing more to this story and I did nothing to aggravate her, as the email exchange shows.  

She can tell other providers anything she wishes.  If someone should question my practices, all I need to do is show them the email chain.

I think that advertising that you are visiting city XYZ, as a means of attracting responses, when you are looking for a "fly me to you" arrangement is absurd.

The lady in question advertises that she is visiting xyz city.  A hobbyist makes an inquiry, only to be informed that he'll have to cover her travel expenses for visiting xyz city.  If another hobbiest is already paying her way, well the second hobbiest will have to pay her transportation as well so as not to benefit from the generousity of the first.   If you balk, she finds it necessary to insult you.

If she is not visiting xyz city, just tell me that and I won't inquire further.  I had no interest in seeing this person unless she was visiting.

Now I don't have a budgetary issue with whatever she charges.  But I don't want to have an extended date, regardless of price, with someone I have not met.

I do find it interesting that none of the providers attempting to defend this person have asked for a copy of the email chain.  You'd come away with a very different impression.

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I have done exactly what I said I would do at the outset.  

No one forced you to read further

Sorry for going off topic, but I have a custom made t-shirt with a blood spattered pic of Cheney sporting an evil grin with Illuminaughty written underneath. Most people don't get the reference, but I am pretty sure that you would!

Well then grow a pair and post the damn thing here for everyone to see.  What are you afraid of?

I am afraid of nothing and I have already articulated why I am not mentioning the name.  What sort of pair would I have if I gave into your bullying?

which is no doubt why you keep reading