Las Vegas
Re: because: legality and YMMV
DrunkTextOn
posted
1 / 19
So, if you as a provider have not taken the time to update your P411 profile to check those certain items that are on your current menu, you are likely never even making the first cut for many, many, many guys' initial narrowing searches. And so you will never hear from us, but some other girl will who has check relevant activities on her P411 profile will. Some providers may assume other providers are not listing particular services on P411 because they see no services on that provider's page, but many providers use the "do not display" function on P411 to "hide" the boxes they check from the casual P411 viewer, yet those checked boxes will still show up in any guy's P411 provider search. Examples of relevant narrowing menu items on P411 would be, for instance, Role Play, BBBJ, Dirty Talk, Submission, BDSM, BLS, and I suppose Video/Photos (referred to as the "allow film or picture" review category here on TER for the past few months). We guys are busy, but we know what we like: By doing a couple of searches I quickly narrowed 371 girls down to a manageable 25 on P411 in probably 10 minutes. I was then able to quickly narrow that group down to a dozen or so women that I was interested in choosing from this past weekend based on a combination of price and personal preferences in looks. To take two of those P411 categories, I am frequently amazed at how few girls check "Role Play" or "Dirty Talk" on their P411 profiles, yet when you meet them, they are totally up for (and great at) either. Most girls spend a lot of time getting good photos, taking care of themselves to look gorgeous, and answering texts and messages, but what I think some might lose track of is that they would have more quality contacts if they took a few moments to fully list the services they are actually up for -- that way they make that all important cut when we guys do our first searches to try to narrow our choices down to girls who are willing to do at least one of the things we enjoy when behind closed doors. Of course, we all know a lady always reserves the right to change her mind, and that any item is a YMMV proposition. Indeed, YMMV is even a check box over on P411. 
In talking to several ladies during my visit this past weekend I realized some providers may realize how a lot of us out-of-town visitors decide who to see when we come to Vegas, given that, on any given day, there are around 370 local and visiting girls listed on P411 for Vegas. How do we guys land on a choice? We don't want to get mired down in over 300 profiles. And we don't want to roll the dice (at least not in a Vegas bedroom) and be disappointed. So a lot of us begin by narrowing the field, focusing on a couple of keep activities that we like in a couple of focused searches both here on TER and, more particularly, on P411.
So, if you as a provider have not taken the time to update your P411 profile to check those certain items that are on your current menu, you are likely never even making the first cut for many, many, many guys' initial narrowing searches. And so you will never hear from us, but some other girl will who has check relevant activities on her P411 profile will. Some providers may assume other providers are not listing particular services on P411 because they see no services on that provider's page, but many providers use the "do not display" function on P411 to "hide" the boxes they check from the casual P411 viewer, yet those checked boxes will still show up in any guy's P411 provider search.
Examples of relevant narrowing menu items on P411 would be, for instance, Role Play, BBBJ, Dirty Talk, Submission, BDSM, BLS, and I suppose Video/Photos (referred to as the "allow film or picture" review category here on TER for the past few months).
We guys are busy, but we know what we like: By doing a couple of searches I quickly narrowed 371 girls down to a manageable 25 on P411 in probably 10 minutes. I was then able to quickly narrow that group down to a dozen or so women that I was interested in choosing from this past weekend based on a combination of price and personal preferences in looks.
To take two of those P411 categories, I am frequently amazed at how few girls check "Role Play" or "Dirty Talk" on their P411 profiles, yet when you meet them, they are totally up for (and great at) either.
Most girls spend a lot of time getting good photos, taking care of themselves to look gorgeous, and answering texts and messages, but what I think some might lose track of is that they would have more quality contacts if they took a few moments to fully list the services they are actually up for -- that way they make that all important cut when we guys do our first searches to try to narrow our choices down to girls who are willing to do at least one of the things we enjoy when behind closed doors. Of course, we all know a lady always reserves the right to change her mind, and that any item is a YMMV proposition. Indeed, YMMV is even a check box over on P411.
So, if you as a provider have not taken the time to update your P411 profile to check those certain items that are on your current menu, you are likely never even making the first cut for many, many, many guys' initial narrowing searches. And so you will never hear from us, but some other girl will who has check relevant activities on her P411 profile will. Some providers may assume other providers are not listing particular services on P411 because they see no services on that provider's page, but many providers use the "do not display" function on P411 to "hide" the boxes they check from the casual P411 viewer, yet those checked boxes will still show up in any guy's P411 provider search.
Examples of relevant narrowing menu items on P411 would be, for instance, Role Play, BBBJ, Dirty Talk, Submission, BDSM, BLS, and I suppose Video/Photos (referred to as the "allow film or picture" review category here on TER for the past few months).
We guys are busy, but we know what we like: By doing a couple of searches I quickly narrowed 371 girls down to a manageable 25 on P411 in probably 10 minutes. I was then able to quickly narrow that group down to a dozen or so women that I was interested in choosing from this past weekend based on a combination of price and personal preferences in looks.
To take two of those P411 categories, I am frequently amazed at how few girls check "Role Play" or "Dirty Talk" on their P411 profiles, yet when you meet them, they are totally up for (and great at) either.
Most girls spend a lot of time getting good photos, taking care of themselves to look gorgeous, and answering texts and messages, but what I think some might lose track of is that they would have more quality contacts if they took a few moments to fully list the services they are actually up for -- that way they make that all important cut when we guys do our first searches to try to narrow our choices down to girls who are willing to do at least one of the things we enjoy when behind closed doors. Of course, we all know a lady always reserves the right to change her mind, and that any item is a YMMV proposition. Indeed, YMMV is even a check box over on P411.
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DrunkTextOn
posted
3 / 19
DrunkTextOn
posted
4 / 19
DrunkTextOn
posted
6 / 19
. . . nothing is a good idea. 
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. . . nothing is a good idea.
I suppose many thousands of P411 providers over the past 15 or so years and many hundreds of thousands (geez, probably millions) of P411 searches by many thousands of guys over the years could all be wrong. I suppose. And I suppose the thousands of individual provider personal websites listing services offered could all be wrong, too, for that matter. My sense is that P411 has equivalent disclaimers to TER. But I am not really trying to convince anyone of anything, least of all what is wrong or right in any aspect of human existence of the hobby community, particularly not for any particular provider.
Rather, as I noted for gorgeous women who spend literally thousands of dollars on hair and makeup and photos and gym memberships and website design and everything from bra and panty sets that make one's jaw drop to high heels that make a man weak in the knees (and countless hours posting on TER, answering texts and emails and phone calls), I think the decision by providers should at least be a knowing decision to then not even make many visitors' very first cut in the selection process time after time, day after day, week after week. I understand the choice of some is simply to list a name on P411 and leave it at that. That's cool. I presume that choice saves wear and tear on that pesky phone ringing!
If thousands or millions like you said want to state irresponsibly that they perform illegal activities it is their prerogative as mine is not to see them. Fortunately, there are many who understand that and those get my business.
I suppose many thousands of P411 providers over the past 15 or so years and many hundreds of thousands (geez, probably millions) of P411 searches by many thousands of guys over the years could all be wrong. I suppose. And I suppose the thousands of individual provider personal websites listing services offered could all be wrong, too, for that matter. My sense is that P411 has equivalent disclaimers to TER. But I am not really trying to convince anyone of anything, least of all what is wrong or right in any aspect of human existence of the hobby community, particularly not for any particular provider.
Rather, as I noted for gorgeous women who spend literally thousands of dollars on hair and makeup and photos and gym memberships and website design and everything from bra and panty sets that make one's jaw drop to high heels that make a man weak in the knees (and countless hours posting on TER, answering texts and emails and phone calls), I think the decision by providers should at least be a knowing decision to then not even make many visitors' very first cut in the selection process time after time, day after day, week after week. I understand the choice of some is simply to list a name on P411 and leave it at that. That's cool. I presume that choice saves wear and tear on that pesky phone ringing!
DrunkTextOn
posted
12 / 19
As I said, doing a P411 search of 371 Vegas girls brought that overwhelming array down to only 25 girls, so you are right: a lot of girls are not using the services listed option on P411. But, unlike you, I am not sure that is as knowing a choice by everyone as it may be by you (particularly as I think P411 allows you to hide your list of bedroom activities, so they only show up, so to speak, when a guy does a search). What I was surprised by was that various of the girls I saw had not really considered the process by which busy guys (who, for instance, cannot use a computer at work and whose wife and kids may be in their phone or home computer at any time) necessarily do a quick search on the fly to arrive at a manageable number of girls to choose from. For those of us who do not live in Vegas and who are busy, a P411 search really is key, and so I do not think my post was meant for you, as a provider who is making a knowing choice, but for any girl who has not thought about it much. Or not. Take it for what little it may be worth.
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