I am not posting any personal info from this gent, but it is a solid warning that we all need to be very diligent and careful in this industry. This occurred in Las Vegas, but I will also be cross posting it to the general board as well.  

"Let me preface by saying I am so disappointed in myself for allowing this to happen even though I had tons of red flags and knew with everything in me that something was wrong! I had been using coke during the day and my ability to think during this encounter was seriously hindered. If any SW’s in the LV area would be willing to message me, I could really use some help figuring out what to do here. With it being my first experience, it has been tough trying to find a high end provider that was not asking for more personal information than I was comfortable providing for verification. I found a gorgeous girl on Skipthegames and the ad was exactly what to expect from a legitimate provider and the title mentions “Independent Provider” (can share if I can’t get this resolved), so I gave her a call and although I didn’t realize I was talking to someone else (apparently an agency)everything sounded good and we agreed to spend an hour together for $400. When she arrived, she was 100% the exact girl in the pictures, maybe even more attractive, and we grabbed a drink to take up to my room. After she counted the $ and put the envelope away in her purse, she explained that money didn’t actually buy her time, but just paid the agency for having her show up and she didn’t get any of it. I was completely unaware until this point that an agency was even involved, so I unknowingly was down $400 off the bat without agreeing to it. This is red flag #1 that I’m hoping you girls can provide some clarification on for me because she went to great lengths to “prove” to me that this is the only way it is done in LV and if I didn’t want to pay for HER time I would just end up having the same situation with ANY other girl. I felt manipulated but I tried to be understanding because I didn’t want her to leave. She beat around the bush about how much was appropriate to tip for her to stay for the hour I thought I had already paid for, but finally said that $1500 was her usual starting point. I was completely taken aback, and even though it was rude I did try to talk with her about this being well above what I planned hoping to get the price down. I told her $1k was all I could do and she was okay with that and said she just wanted yo be done talking about the money part so we could enjoy each others time. She put the money away and we kinda talked about other things, flirted, put on music and our clothes came off. This is when everything stopped and she said I needed to give the other $500 if we were doing anything else. She was very persuasive (manipulative) in getting me to be an idiot and agree and it worked. I don’t want to provide a ton more details about our time together but suffice to say that extra $500 didn’t make her happy because she cut off just a few minutes later for her pitch of how I had only paid her minimum which was only going to get minimum experience. I was just blown away by how awful the experience at this point and ready to just cut my losses ($1900 now) and my God I wish I had. After telling her to leave and starting to get ready to figure out my next move, I somehow let her hustle me again so bad that I’m in complete shock and literally am questioning if I am having a nightmare. She blinded me with lies about how this would allow spending more time and completely change the experience into something unforgettable with desired specifics that I’m not going to mention and I willingly tipped her an additional $1800. Once she had the money, she asked me to go get her another drink from the bar and I brought up I didn’t want to waste time but she said she wasn’t rushing now and we would have plenty of time. To try to shorten up the remainder of this, I’ll just say that when I got back with the drink she mentioned needing to hurry up bc she had been here a long time, made no effort to create that unforgettable experienced and out mutually agreed to specifics got left out somehow. When I brought it up she asked for more money. Obviously at this point regret had already been building, so it was a HARD pass and walked her out. When I got back to my room, I realized my Rolex my grandfather gave me before he passed away was gone. She also jacked my stash. When I called her number they pretended to be detectives at first, then the supposed agency owner started trying to say I was the one who wasted her time and I must have lost the watch myself because she has been in business for so many years (think she said 9) and doesn’t employ thieves. I can respect the hustle of getting as much money as possible, but this is fucked up. I need advice from locals on how to get my watch back. Someone knows her. I have pictures of her, a potential business name from when I Venmo’d, several different ads on different sites, and with the help of a hacker friend I can more. I just want my fucking watch back so I can forget about this horrible experience. Please help me? That watch is irreplaceable with the sentimental value."

He should probably call the police about the stolen watch. His money is never coming back. Hopefully he has learned his lesson and looks for women who have a stellar reputation. If anyone ever shows up and says that you have paid for an agency fee, take the loss and send her out the door.  
I hate that there are bad actors out there. They make it hard on the rest of us.

I have had a similar encounter, with a lady calling herself Jessica. She's no longer on TER, so either they kicked her off or she arranged to have her profile taken down. But yes, she highballed me on the price, then claimed that was for her agent. She didn't steal anything, but of course I also didn't take my eyes off of her, since trust was gone. As for as your watch goes, I'm guessing it's been fenced by now. Keep in mind, if you have the serial number, just report it as stolen, That we if she tries to sell it at pawn stars, she'll get pinched. If they ask you what you were doing with this girl, tell them it was a date. If they ask if she was charging you for it, just say "excuse me officer, I'm pretty sure that's illegal."

What a terrible night!

-- Modified on 8/3/2023 12:28:01 PM

Our rates have been flat and all inclusive for almost 15 years with NO upselling. You were lied to. All agencies are NOT created equal. Sorry for your bad experience. Next time avoid the red flags and do better research before booking your appointment. TER is a great source of information where you can book a great experience with a well reviewed provider.

Sorry that happened, but he made several mistakes. #1 when working for an agency you do get a percentage of the fee when showing up for the date. She lied to him. I used to work for several agencies before becoming 100% independent. You always go high. The goal is to get as much money as possible without providing an exceptional service. The majority of the females who work for agencies in LV have pimps, so yes they steal for their Daddy. Your Rolex is gone. Never invite a question mark up to your room. Always do your due diligence by researching an independent & reputable provider. Las Vegas is the adult entertainment spot that is not for the weak. I lived in LV long ago it is another World for those who don’t know. Live & learn. Be smarter. Hide your valuables in a safe before you pay thieves to come up to your room to take advantage of you.

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. In general I try not to see girls who are not reviewed on TER. If a girl only has one or two reviews I then click on the person who reviewed them to make sure that those are not the only reviews they have posted.

This is a big scam that goes on out here. If it is true they do not tell you they are coming from an agency. I once had a girl come to my place during COVID that I met on Tinder. She even required I FaceTime with her before she came over. When she got to my place I paid her the $250 she asked for. She then informed me that was for the agency and she required more money. I asked her what the $250 got me and she said she would do a massage in her bra and panties. I'm sure her plan was to get me hard and ask for way more. Since she was at my home and I did not want any more trouble in the future I told her to take the $250 and leave. I cut my losses and did not get ripped off for 500 and up where I think she was going to go with it.

Unless you want to involve the police your money and your watch are gone. Personally I do not understand any girl who does this and does not provide good service. I think you can make much more money based on good reviews then you can with a one time hit and run unless you steal on top of it. For the girls wouldn't it be better to provide good service to a tourist. Not only may he come back sooner to see you he probably will tell his friends to make sure they see you on their trip.  Finally if you are high or drunk when you see a provider that's on you not being sharp and making it easier to be taken advantage of. There are plenty of good girls out here and also the K-Agencies.

That is def not the norm. Many truly 100 percent independent providers, like myself out there,

The watch is gone. He could call hotel security as they surely have images of the woman, maybe even the car she left in but they're not going to give it to the guy unless the cops ask for it.  They'll just use it for their own purposes and trespass her if they see her coming back to potentially prey on another guest.  At this point there's nothing to prove the guy even had a watch or that the girl stole it.  We've all seen the stories about girls being detained by security on site and having a watch found during a body search. But once she's gone, the watch and cash is gone.

Not to beat a dead horse but the guy is careless and gullible.  He forked over $400, then $1000, then $500, then $1800 more, then left a stranger alone in his room with his valuables.  Just 10 mins of research could have shown him this is the most common SW scam in Vegas with the "agency fee" then tips for additional services.  The goalposts keep moving and they'll keep moving until she can't get anymore from you, then she's gone.

Sucks to be out $3600 and grandpa's Rolex but don't sweat it buddy, live and learn and move on.  You're already winning life to have cash and a nice family whereas the girl handed all that she stole off to a pimp who's probably going to end up in prison anyways.  Some guys lose all this and more to wives or girlfriends so you got off cheap my friend!

Maybe go to several of our pawn stores and ask if anyone pawned a Rolex recently.. that's only way I believe you will find what you are looking for sorry this happened

Never leave a girl whom you don't know or you can't trust in your room...

Second you found TER to ask for advice you should be here picking up providers not out there in the wild. .

Lastly for 1800 you could have sent 8 hrs with I have 400 plus reviews and we would have had blast and I would have not stolen anything... stellar reputation here

Sorry again
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