Hello,

I am attending a concert in OCT. I have posted in other places, but in short I am looking for a date. To be clear, a date, not an excort. This would be a non-money fling. The tickets and room are paid for. I just would like a pretty woman to be my date for the night. It is Oct 26th. I have had some guys leave me some pretty nasty emails because I have the nerve to ask this sort of question, but hey why not try. All you can do is say no to me right?? If you are interested, than please contact me either by posting here or by one of these methods. do not try to leace email on TER. I cannot read it!! thanks and I hope to hear from you

AOL AIM:  caredskinfan
yahoo IM:  artmonkredskin

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scott

You are posting this on a board where Escorts advertise and post. This is their business and quite frankly it is like going to a site for a Dr. and asking him to do pro-bono work...because you want him to.

You should really try some of the message boards on Lava Life, Love@AOL and places like that. I am sure you will find someone to go with you and you won't have to compensate them. It is really kind of insulting to do it here. While I don't advocate people being nasty about it, I can kinda understand why they are.

best to ya

right on as always, Lassie...Lavalife in particular has a 'encounter' section more short term than 'romance or dating'. Or try the Casual Encounters on Craigslist for LA or Sandy Eggo. Or Yahoopersonals...or the grocery store, Walmart...you can do it dude!

www.adultfriendfinder.com .  Maybe you could score a hookup that way.

Gez why are people so up tight about what I am doing??? So let me see, just because these women get paid, that means that there is no chance in hell that they would ever want to just be taken out for a date?? Ya know to be honest, I have only heard from MEN!! They think it is a bad idea. I have accually recieved email from some providers who are interested!! so there.  And for your info Lawyers and doctors do do probono work, so there! ALl they can do is say no. Why does it hurt to ask?? find some other tree to piss on.

watching you act like a asshole is really going to make them want to go out with you.

FYI dear, no one was rude, until now. The two guys who responded were very kind and forthcoming with information, and Me being the only woman and an ex-provider to boot gave it to you the way it is.

In actuality the chances of a provider in Vegas going out with a stranger just for the hell of it is slim to none. I just suggested you try other venues where you can find a last minute date and not have to compensate her for her time.

I am curious though. If this date is just for the concert why do you mention you have a room and it is paid for? What does one have to do with the other unless youare looking for a date with a Vegas escort and you just dopnt want to pay for her time.

I hope you get to go to your concert and you have a great time. But read carefully the posts being put up before you tell everyone to go piss up a tree. TER is not a free dating service. These ladies get paid for their time, and I would venture to guess that most will not go looking for a date outside of work on an escort board.

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...and I couldn't have said it better myself.


I feel sorry for the poor guy.  It's obvious that he isn't
"client or Hobbyist material" and most likely never will be.
And his blatant immaturity leads me to believe that he isn't successful enough to be able to afford a Profession Provider (& he's a tightwad) so he's trying every angle possible to get a freebie.

Come to think of it, what is he doing posting on TER anyway?  And what was in his post that got this PROvider (I rarely participate in the discussionS) annoyed enough to reply with this tongue lashing?  

I predict that you will have an unpleasant experience the night of the concert because your "cheap date" will turn out to be a ROB.  And that is something you will have earned.  

Yikes, all I did was provide you a link to a place where you could look for hookups.  I hope that all those providers who emailed you take a peek at your temper before deciding to take you up on your offer...

WOW, Who would have thought that my post would bring all the claws out!!Let's see, because of what I asked makes me immature?? No the way people have responded to me personally would make them immature. First, as mother always said, if you have nothing nice to say keep your mouth shut. 2nd, if you weren't interested than it was none of your business to reply. And 3rd, none of you were nice to begin with, you offered your opinion (which wasn't too flattering of me) and then offered, the as you call it, helpful advice. You should have never responded to begin with. I never asked for you opinion! I never said "hey would someone please share with me why they think this is a bad idea". You want to know why you got a tongue lashing from me?? Because you were busybodies and stuck your nose in where it didn't belong. If you didn't like my post than move along and ignore it. But because you had to get in your two cents worth now it's gotten ugly. You may say I work and advertise on this site so I do belong. Did I personally email you or talk to you?? No I posted so those who were interested would respond and those, like you who thought it was a bad idea would not. Did you get that?? Just like you, if a guy doesn't like your review he moves on, he doesn't post opinions about it and give you a hard time. Again I say, if you don't like the post move on and think I'm a idiot or jerk or whatever bad foul words come to mind but there's no need to post just to share your bad feeling towards me. thanks

I do not know you at all Celtic Lass but I posted on this very board in the Atlanta section back in April for a date to the local amusement park. I got a few responses and was lucky enough to get a nice lady whom went with me for the day. I paid for the tickets, food and games. All I ask of her was holding hands, a few hugs and kisses. She and I had a great time.                                                          She charged nothing. When I was back in town I did see her for a private session. She did not insist on this before hand but she and i did have a great deal of chemistry and again I had a remarkable time.

I did get the typical responses of my time is worth this much but I feel like the guy whom started this thread was well within his rights to post here. There are terrific providers who just enjoy a non pressure situation.

Every one have a great day.  The TOAD

Let me tell it like it is (and Lass is right, amplify it for Vegas since the majority of working girls here have an SO already). Women generally speaking spend time with men for two reasons: one, because they like them, and two, because they're getting paid. Assuming they have to get to know you first before they can make a judgment call on whether they like you, I'm not seeing how your request fits in either category.

Yes, some ladies would not mind a social date, but you have to find them in their personal life, as opposed to their professional life as you've done here. Not to mention find them available, a good percentage fo those without a boyfriend or husband are gay.

Another reality is weekends are prime time in Vegas, I hardly know anyone who is in the trade who doesn't work weekends*. What makes you think a provider is going to give up a block of time in what is the most profitable time of the week for her to see a show with a stranger?

Finally, and this has been discussed above, your request is really outside the guidelines for what TER is about; if not for the post, which I think will serve as a red flag to providers not to see you EVEN if you're paying, it's almost irrelevant. It's the only reason I can see allowing the post to stand.

If you can pull it off, bravo, but the reality is most providers will have found the request anywhere from annoying to psychologically troubling. Pursuing the issue just makes it worse.



*some time back, I recounted the story about getting my hair cut on New Years' Eve at a well known salon in town. I was introduced to an escort (blonde, stunning, limited service, very expensive), her 8yo son and her husband. She was getting dolled up because she was booked that evening, for several hours at $1K/hour with a high roller. Much less unusual a situation than you can ever think possible.

I wish Kimmie Soprano were still around-she'd set this guy straight in a heartbeat.

gee, the last time I looked no one is paying for the space to post a message.  There have been a lot more idiotic things posted on the boards lately.  Why get all bent out of shape over this?

The part that gets me is he is impersonating Art Monk, noted Washington Redskin receiver and none of you damned him for that.
LOL

no one got bent out of shape..we came back with some reasonable venues for him to find a date and he came back acting like an asshole.

Oh well we tried

Many get on this board and say they are coming into town and ask for a provider to call them ........ and we answer back do the research, you must contact them, etc. ...... here he is asking for a date with no strings attached ...so what... who are any of us to say  .. if a provider takes him up on it good for them .. it's no skin off any of our backs.. maybe just maybe there is a provider that might like to go on a "date" knowing that shes not going to have to do anything extra but have a good time ... and as for the other sites yes you can go there as well .. but maybe his goal is to have a date with a provider with no strings attached...Maybe I'm wrong but don't providers "off the clock" date without getting paid for it, I know many providers are married, do their husbands slip them an enevelop before making love .... this guy just wants a harmless date ...... Many times I have come into Vegas for the day and had a late breakfast, lunch, and dinner with providers and guess what we had no sex ... and all I paid for was the meal, I didn't pay for any of the time we spent together .... imagine that. my .02

Read your initial post.  The subject ("Honestly"....exasperated tone?) and the opening statement was a critical analogy. Yes, after getting your licks in you did offer some suggestions.

but just by virtue of what I wrote you have no idea what my tone was. I pointed out the facts to him and made suggestions and he came back with telling us to piss up a tree.

And Spinner, you know I love ya and I totally agree with what you said about popping into town and taking gals to lunch or drinks ect. But you are known and we know how you behave and we trust you. You still cannot tell me that an escort review board is the proper place to look for a date. THese women get paid for their TIME. Privately or otherwise. There were damn few ladies who ever had dinner or shows off the clock. Each lady is different in their business dealings. And if this was so important to him, why didnt he just write the ladies privately and ask. I tend to think he wanted this to become a heated debate.

You are right on Lass.  I don't see where you were out of line or that any one else was who responded.  This is not a dating board, it a place to exchange info and such about the hobby and some times we talk about stuff not even related to it.  I didn't even bother to respond at first, because the request was so ridiculous.  As Lass points out, they get paid for their time, they don't do charity work.   Lawyers may do pro bono, and sometimes Dr.s work for free, or don't get paid, but they can write it off and have other reason why they do it.

Great Line, Not ---> "You still cannot tell me that an escort review board is the proper place to look for a date"...

So, only paid dates can post here?  It was just a question, Just maybe this was the best way for him, posting the question instead of writing several ladies?   Believe it or not,  Some ladies enjoy fun dates.

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I made no claim to know what your tone was...I speculated, hence the question mark.  Unlike your initial post which makes you appear as the self-appointed spokesperson for all the local esccorts.  The point I tried to make was that your initial post was not solely sharing of useful information as you subsequently claimed...the useful information it did contain, was preceded by cynical comments and a critical analogy and preaching in tone (my perception).

I will take your offer!!!!

But, sleeping with me requires extra (greenbacks) so if you want to meet and go to the concert, I will be happy to go along with you on my offtime. But, once your hand starts going up my skirt, I will charge you for that. At least I am being honest, right???

disagree on this one.  Granted there is a very slight chance in a god zillion that anyone will take him up on his offer but it only takes one.  And who wouldn't love to go out with a provider just to go out ... I would love to spend more time with you, and many of the other incredible ladies that I have met over the years to sit and chat, trade stories, I have found our conversations very thought provoking .. but I'm not made of millions and probably he isn't either .. so we give it a shot and post ... and hope we don't go down in flames ...p

I think Lass said almost everything I feel, but I will say it again. As a provider, I am paid for my time. This time of year I am extremely busy. Also, being a provider, the last thing I want to do with my spare time is spend time with a man who is not my significant other. I love men. I adore men. I have tons of fun with men, but when I'm not working, I want to be with my mom, my sisters, my best friends, my S.O., and my dogs. I don't want to wear a stitch of makeup. I want to get filthy in my garden or at the beach and not shower for days. I want to have greasy hair and unshaven legs. Again, the very last thing I'd want to do is go to a Vegas concert with thousands of people. I suppose you think it's such a treat to spend time with you AND go to a concert that providers will be killing each other to get to you first. Let me know if that happens, but I doubt it will. When I want to go to a concert or any other activity off the clock, I will surely go with people who mean something to me - not some guy looking for a free date on TER.

P.S. What's up with the room being paid for? Every time I visit Vegas, I can pay for my OWN room for under $200 or have it comped by looking cute. I suppose, though I'm a hooker, I should be impressed by a hotel room? I've seen thousands. They all look the same, especially in Vegas.

Man if I thought that this would stir up a hornets nest I would have never done it. But I thank everyone who came to my defense!!
It is true LASS, if you wouldn't have been condesending with your first post I wouldn't have gotten defensive and lashed out. This could have all be avoided if you would have been nice. You probably had good intentions but went about it the wrong way. The simple fact is to everyone is I have gotten responses. And they have been the nicest people about it too!! Absolute sweethearts!! So to my surprise there are providers who aren't meanies like the ones here who ripped me a new one!! I think it is kinda funny how people think that their world is the only one where things are a certain way, but don't realize that things are different in other peoples worlds!

and I know you will all be thankful..

Here is my initial post:

You are posting this on a board where Escorts advertise and post. This is their business and quite frankly it is like going to a site for a Dr. and asking him to do pro-bono work...because you want him to.

You should really try some of the message boards on Lava Life, Love@AOL and places like that. I am sure you will find someone to go with you and you won't have to compensate them. It is really kind of insulting to do it here. While I don't advocate people being nasty about it, I can kinda understand why they are.

best to ya



Please tell me where I was insulting and condecending in this post. I did get insulting but that was AFTER you told me and others to go piss up a tree.

Im glad there are ladies willing to see you for free. You get what you want and they get to see a concert. But I will stand by my original thought, and I don't personally care who wants to brow beat me for it. An escort board is no place to look for a date. It opens up all kinds of complications when ladies will say yes to a date for no pay when they are in fact in a business of getting paid fo Time and Companionship.

And let's not get into the bullshit that this thread went this way and it's my fault. I should post the dozen or more emails from ladies who agreed with me but didn't post because they didn't want to come off as money hungry bitches.

Do what you will, everyone has an opinion on the subject but I won't take the fall because you came back as an imature little brat and decided to bark insults at people. I didn't cause the downward spiral of this thread Monk, but I think we know who did.

Good Luck

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This is my last word too. Had you only just given me advice or directed me to those other sites and NOT shared your opinion  and I quote "it is really quite insulting to do it here". Others would have not come out of the woodwork to brow beat me!! Only after having been taken out back by others ONLY AFTER YOU thought it wise to share your opinion about me, did I get pissy!! So yes you did start it. It's one thing to offer help and quite another to do it than give your opinion, like by giving your advice first softens the possible insult the opinion might carry. True everyone is intitled to free speech and their opinion, but I did providean email, you could've emailed me personally and offered your advice. LIke others have done and quite politley I might add. Which you would have accomplished your goal of informing me and keeping it private, but when you choose to scold me publicly (some) people will see that as hostile. I truely believe that you had the best intensions, but somehow it just didn't come out that way especially publicly on this board. I apologize for being rude too. I really didn't think what I was asking would cause so much trouble and after getting so much meanness from people I lashed out. I think WE ALL could have handled it better. no hard feelings???

I think you were "right on" from the get go, Lass!  Interesting that the providers who supposedly took this guy up on his offer, didn't do so publicly...and that the only provider who met him halfway is Miss Anon(ymous)!  Perhaps it would tip off their clients to just ask for the "free date" next time?  My money says Monk will be stuck with an extra concert ticket and single occupancy in his hotel room!!