That's one thing I've never figured out when I'm out in your area...
 I'm an aficionado of street-meat, and other non-mainstream aspects of this hobby, but I never found those areas of town when the hookers, crack heads, drug dealers, ect lurk in the alleys and shadows.

 Fill me in on your town! Where is the action??

Are you serious????

Downtown is probably your best bet. They can usually be found on the stairways at the Motel-6 on Koval and Trop. I've seen a lot of them walking on Trop in front of the Orleans. They are EVERYWHERE! But why would you care? Have you already grown tired of the shadow AMP's? Lol! Good luck!

T.L.

I'm just trying to prepare for my return  at Christmas time, I'm going to be spending a few more week out your way, and the street-vendor hookers was one aspect of the local culture I missed out on... I did look in all the dirty areas of downtown, but didn't find any,,, I'm going to check out your tip about Orleans though, and Motel6...   I did find some nice lobby-whores in MGM, but they don't really qualify as true streetwalkers.... Just one of my many sick fetishes...

-- Modified on 11/23/2006 2:03:06 PM

I guess downtown might have been vacant because LE had been pretty active around there when you were there. But the elections are over now! So....well, I would stay away from there anyway, but I'm more scared of the hookers than the cops, lol!

T.L.

You forgot to list vice cops and trick rollers  who also hang out in those aeras . Trop from the strip to Decator and LV blvd from Sahara to down town if you really want to go that route .
Good luck

near downtown, a cool place to troll was the Atomic when it was 24/7.  They close at 10pm now so it's dead but having to be buzzed in, cheap drinks, crappy jukebox and pool tables, the atmosphere was something to behold.  Of course, you had to deal with the pimps, SWs, panhandlers, drug dealers, etc. on the way there from FSE (Fremont Street Experience).  The closest asian was this cute hawaiian chick that was rumored to have AIDS.

I think the action moved north of downtown to the Uke which has a Friday night karaoke.  Haven't check it out.

Further out, Boulder has some walkers.  I remember an acquaintance (cheezewiz) went into a bar on a scouting mission, Four Aces, and he was scared.  If you had no holes in your clothes and all your teeth, you didn't fit in.

If you troll the cheap rooms, the Motel 6 and Budget Suites (as well as other low rent places) usually has working girls staying there and using them as incalls.  Craigslist will help you find those if you're not going to do your own recon.

Like most places in the nation, truck stops are great places to find some action.  Don't notice a lot at the TA near the Silverton (Blue Diamond exist off I-15) but the Wild Wild West has cheap CDL room rates so they head there and walk the streets from there to the Orleans (noticed a few last weekend for the spinner M&G bowling/go-karts).

The action varies as vice cracked down on the scene (gotta look good and attack what seems to be the most visible violations).

As far as asians are concerned, you don't see a lot of them working the streets.  I think most feel safer in one of the many massage parlors that pop up all over town.  You won't find them in the tourist places (rents too high).  Henderson did a crackdown on AMPs earlier this year so the action there may be lower than others.  As a tourist, I don't think AMPs are worth the bother (vs some of the UTR asian incalls or one of the ones that are reviewed here like 24/7 asians and xo asians).  Of course, DJ, you'd already been there so I won't extend the warning to you.

As for the other locations, unless you're the type to feel comfortable being in a bar fight (with weapons), a lot of these places are not for your typical LV tourist.  Stick with a highly scored provider with reviews here and you'll go home happy.

Bob

DJ the way you play in Vegas I don't think we will be crossing paths... LOL!!! Two different sides of the market dude!


If you want to troll for streetwalkers, try Las Vegas Blvd. in NORTH Las
Vegas, Bloulder Hwy. from the Showboat on down, and Fremont St. between
about 4th and 12th.   Be advised, however, that like everywhere else,
streetwalkers are usually pretty poor quality, normally crack heads, and
are your best chance of catching something.  If you need to take a hooker
to a motel, the best is the Del Mar on Las Vegas Blvd., which has hourly
rates.

If you are looking for streetwalkers, which it sounds like, you are
wasting your time.  There aren't any in the Strip area.  If that is what
you REALLY want (remember! you get what you pay for!!), try the area
around the Western Casino on Fremont St. (about Fremont and 9th, I THINK),
but keep in mind that the area is NOT SAFE after dark.

-- Modified on 11/24/2006 12:27:04 PM

First of all the link you provided was from 1995, I doubt seriously that there is much accuracy to the information.

The areas you discuss are also out of touch to 2006. Las Vegas Blvd. N. will probably not be any good at all. You will spend the entire night trolling there. Boulder Hwy. there still is action. Do not look for the Showboat, that was torn down and there is nothing but a vacant lot there now, still a good landmark I guess, it's across the street from HomeDepot. Boulder Hwy. between there and all the way to Tropicana is often found with street walkers. Daytime mostly. But you are absolutely correct, they will be crack-heads and risky business to say the least.

Forget the hourly Del Mar Hotel also. That was torn down over two years ago. Again vacant land exists there. There's still the Oaisis Motel further south at Oaky Blvd. but again, scurvey peeps hang out. The area you mention around Freemont and the Westin Casino is a grand place to get robbed. From there south to Bruce St. I would readily stay away from, daytime or dark.

Believe it or not there is also a review board for street walkers in Las Vegas. Can't include it here because it would be a violation of the discussion board rules at TER.

My advice stay away from all the aforementioned places in my post. lmao Go with indy, stay safe and stay clean.

Good luck to Dirty Jesus though, he's going to need it.

Thanks smarty for correcting me....

The danger-factor don't worry me much,,, I probably pose more of a threat than a they do! lol!

I enjoy crackheads, especially when they jones really bad, I also have a thing for the young girls that are all strung out or mentally disrupted and talk to themselves... it makes for good sexual entertainment!

Whatch out Vegas! I'll be lurking your shadows again over NewYears!  ;>

-- Modified on 11/25/2006 9:08:35 AM

OMG, I'm starting to believe DJ really IS serious!

T.L.

And if I have to explain why, you're a bigger fool than I thought you were.

This is a widely known public forum and can be read by anyone including vice officers, politicians, senators wives etc. Even if you are just saying this shit for shock value, it could still bring the heat onto our community...capisci?

I don't know if she has impetigo, HSV, or something else but this is a truly sad picture that is unwarranted on this board.  Please delete it for the sake of this unfortunate girl.

http://www.edwardfrench.com/baldmu.htm

That's an actress who's been made up. No actual methed-up working girls were harmed in the posting of that picture. I suspect that's quite deliberate.

By all means, continue the discussion- just do it   on a factual basis.

Bob, does it really matter whether the pic is real or not? It the thought process which went into posting the pic, and I find that most disturbing.

... don't let me stop the discussion. I just feel accuracy's important.

I'm not particularly jazzed about the scene the OP is apparently into, myself- it seems awfully sad and disturbing to me, as the SW scene is where we stash a lot of the "disposable people" who are casualties of our society (my hometown, for instance, had the Green River Killer. That's a cheery thought for a cold winter's night walking the streets, isn't it- not knowing which car's going to have the next serial killer in it?). About the best I can say is that at least from what I can tell the dude is honest about what his tastes run to. I know a number of ladies from cities who won't see locals from their own town because too many of them have seen "track girls", won't be forthright about it, and expose people to a lot of risk.

There are flourishing SW reviewboards in my community and nationwide. It's probably a better place to be asking for information, IMO.

-shrug-

-- Modified on 11/26/2006 9:40:14 AM

it still saddens me to see jokes made of people who have to live in that environment.  

Four bodies of murdered streetwalkers were discovered in Atlantic City last week and to joke about people who are forced to live in that sordid world just to make ends meet is totally insensitive to other human beings.

I love the hobby for those who know how to deal with it but not the part where those involved have no choice and are being destroyed by all its complications.

shock value and all... !!!

Any chance we could get you to keep him there???

I think it only fair... LOL!!!! Not sure which one of those kitties I should be afraid of... !!

-- Modified on 11/26/2006 9:11:22 PM

Someone pointed me to this article in The Onion (which has a good online presence but I still remember them as the free rag in the colder parts of the Midwest like Chicago).  In case you're not familiar with the publication, they write spoof or irrelevant articles for a humorous take.

Bob

The thing that I find humorous is how all you white knights and bleeding hearts find my tastes and humor so disturbing, yet if a girl does the same thing to earn money to suppory her hand-bag habbit or shoe fetish, then you just look at her as happy healthy provider... but as soon as her looks fade, she'll be pennyless as well and probably a social burden in her old age...

Glad you all are comfortable with the smell of your own shit!

I work for a company who financially facilitates high rollers who are not US citizens.  
To avoid taxes I need you to send $998 to 7 different people via Western Union OUT OF STATE to avoid paying high-end tax bracket taxes... then cancel the 7 transactions...so you'll be in Western Union's system and I can wire you $63,000 for 1 week to see Johnny Chan ($9000/day plus shopping money and my own suite at MGM).
 You'll have to pay the limo driver $13,000 when he picks you up and you can keep the rest....

I'm just guessing by the simple and nieve way in which you see the world, you might be a good target for this scam... If you honestly believe what you are suggesting in your post would happen, yet SOME HOW MAGICALLY all the discussion and reviews HAVE NOT yet caused it to over the years, then perhaps some lithium  will help you with your feelings of impending paranoia...

So many of you self-rightous fools on TER think the hobby has one form, can't deviate from that form and must adhere to a strict code of ethics!

SAYS WHO?? Do you not realize that we are engaged in an 8,000+ year old lifestyle that transends all nations, cultures and religions?? Your narrow view of what is considered "right" in this hobby is utterly meaningless in the scope of the world view and historical pattern that has existed for all time! Judge yourself first! And withhold your judgments from others, lest you cause more damage than good with the log in your own eye while attempting to wipe the speck of sawdust out of mine!!

So basically, you are calling me hick.

I don't know exactly what your problem is Ben...but I AM SURE that it's VERY difficult to pronounce.
Your attempt at armchair psychology was rather amusing, but you can keep your beloved lithium for yourself.
You should be more mindful however, of the bad drug interaction when combined with crack. It can cause an offensively repugnant alter-ego to emerge...namely "dirty jesus".

-- Modified on 11/27/2006 9:04:40 PM

Perhaps I can suggest some Depo-Provera for the guy that wrote about hiring under-age girls in his trip to Vegas thread?

It is the in drug for sex offenders in chemical castration circles...though it is the exact opposite of a recreational drug...as guys who like to buy the favors of 16 year olds actually won't be able to have their preferred recreation.  *smirk*

Your sense of humor is not in question here, it is the lack there of.
The fact that you are completely deviod of any sense of compassion is glaringly clear, but do not expect everone else to share the same affliction. We all reside in the "free will zone" and are entitled to our own views, but admonishing others for not sharing yours is generally considered rude behavior.
As for your implication that providers are shallow, consumer driven, fading roses with no concept of the future...sorry to pop your little bubble, but...
I utilize about 30% of my earnings for the cost of living. The rest I save for my future business venture (a spiritual & wellness retreat)
What is your percentage?

I sold off my business in my early 30's and invested the money... And retired at age 35... Now I live and party and fuck on the intrest without ever touching the principal. I have no reason to "save" any!
 My homes and cars are paid for, so my monthly overhead is quite low... I've started going to trade-shows again, but I'm only speculating on a small hobby/business... (Didn't you wonder why I had so much spare time??, lol!)

Maybe I'll check into your "wellness center" when you get it open... I could use a massage with a happy ending!  ;>

Perhaps it will help you FOCUS when you read!
I DID NOT say I FUCKED any UNDERAGED girls!
I said the "illegal AMPS, ie; "Shadow AMPS" were full of cute asian girls ranging from 16 to 25!
OBVIOUSLY, I was only speculating on their age based on their appearance, since I didn't check their ID! However, I DID NOT take any such girl into the back "massage room" for a "happy time"! Any girl I was with was clearly over 18, infact the YOUNGEST LOOKING of all the girls at the strip-club ended up being 24, and her sister who looked damn near as young was 31!!! (Shucks, I was hopping they were 18&19 though!)

Also, when I was refering to the young asian "illegals" in the hotel lobby, I didn't mean "under-aged"! I meant appearing to lack "LEGAL" citizenship! Hence, they spoke poor or no English, but sure knew how to please a man! lol!

I don't "buy the favors of 16 year olds", nor do I condon it, However on a world-wide moral view, it's rather common place, even legal in many countries and cultures, The USA is somewhat in the MINORITY in the world view in that moral high-ground upon which you base your desire to chemically castrate...
 Is there a way to give a chemical lobotomy?? THat will be my next suggestion for you if the Ritalin don't calm you down....

Let's look at one of your quotes, shall we?

"I enjoy crackheads, especially when they jones really bad, I also have a thing for the young girls that are all strung out or mentally disrupted and talk to themselves... it makes for good sexual entertainment!"

So, it would seem you enjoy skull-fucking the mentally ill and addicted, as a bit of a switch from from your independently wealthy lifestyle, because it adds a bit of a kick to when you get off. Okey-doke. We get it, loud and clear.

While the basics of commerce still exist, nobody's going to mistake that for enjoying the comfort of a Greek haetera or the salon society of France, or even modern Amsterdam, so I'd be a bit careful with the historical allusions there. You probably would get along just fine with Samuel Pepys in London, though.

That being said, some people don't need power trips over the poor, mentally ill or "illegals" to get off, and find the concept pretty distasteful (and a rather sad and depressing part of modern life and the "hobby")- and might even write posts on a message board about it. I'd say they're just as entitled to their viewpoint as you are.

I had hoped you were  touch brighter than that...

I had hoped you could follow a course of comments and relate them to each other...

Now me, I don't give  damn if you're castrated chemically or otherwise...

You gave Miss Avalon hell for being "paranoid", because she tried to remind you this is a open forum where anyone can read it.  Membership not required, these boards are public.

You made a joke that she needed lithium....

You made a comment about how it hasn't happened after all these years, with the implication that it can't or won't...

This isn't too tough for you to follow right?
You're still on the same page?

OK...here is where the conversation becomes a group conversation...where I pick up from what she said, and responded to what you said, with a bit of a sarcastic bent using your swipe about her needing meds, in an effort to help you figure out why some of the stuff you post can bring very unwanted attention that hereforto has only generally culminated in stings and individual ladies being busted....

In a handful of posts you have mentioned underage girls, drug use, and thanks to your clarification possible human trafficking...yeah nothing there anyone with any power or any urge to clean up "Sin City" would have a problem with...see how that brings a slightly different attention than simple pay for play?

Now, you want to call me unfocused, and Miss Avalon naive...but you're the one that seems incapable of figuring out for some in power any excuse is a good one for a crack down...even the attempted, but failed, satirical ramblings of a idiot from Minnesota on a message board.

As for lack of focus you actually attempt in your defense to argue the US laws of age of consent?
Points for obfuscation.

I don't recall mentioning "skull fucking" as one of my  fetishes, appearantly I wasn't "discusting enough" for you, so you felt the need to put words in my mouth to spice up your rebutle...
 
Where did I indicate I was "high minded" in my deventcy?? You can continue to decieve yourself by standing on a mountain of sand and shit claiming you're on high ground, but we are all devents in one form or another! Some like big boobs, others like fat chicks (politely and inaccurately calling them "big boned") while yet others like old women, (politely and inaccurately calling them "mature", which is actually a measure of the ability to apply wisdom in their decision-making prosess, and NOT a measure of age!)

As far a  my "historical illusions" go, Again you put words I'm my mouth to make your argument. I never referenced what you did, which is only a TINY percentage of world sex-trade activities! A common tactic on your part is attempting to repaint my statements to color-match your preconcieved argument... Poor form on your part, but you have every right...

And I don't find any "power trip" in fucking the down-trauden,,, It's not like they aren't ALREADY getting fucked by lots of other men, I'm just one more dick in a crowd of dicks, my presence neither helps or hinders their situation... You speak as though I'm preying on people that except for my actions wouldn't be otherwise getting fucked... these people were ALL FUCKED UP before I got there! Not my doing and not my problem!

And to your final point, which again you needed to put words in my mouth to make your argument, I DID NOT state that anyone shouldn't post ANY opinion they had about me or anything else! OF COURSE everyone is "entitled" to post their thoughts and opinions, even you, as wrong as you are, have every right be as wrong as you want to be on this and any other topic of discussion...

Your and Nikki's far-fetched example of what "could happen" is a classic slippery-slope fallusy! How can you even think that way and not laugh out loud at yourselves??

Do you really think there even the most remote chance that this will "culminate into stings and individual ladies being busted"???

Not only are you unable to focus, you now have shown that you can't REASON either!

Sin City OOZES with sex! legal, illegal, around every corne  and under every rock is SEX! I highly doubt the "satirical ramblings of a idiot from Minnesota on a message board" are the BIGGEST FEAR IN VEGAS that will start an avalanche of crack-down the likes of which the town has never seen!! (You are more paranoid and nieve than Nikki!)

If they wanted to "crack down" I think they might start with the thousands of illegal-alien homeless people handing out call-girl cards up and down the strip!
Or maybe just put on some jeans and a tee-shirt any jump in ANY taxi and say "I want to get layed"!
 Or Walk in a stripclub with a wad of $100 bills and say "would you like to come back to my room?"

It's hardly like I came to Vegas with some super-ability to sniff out sex that nobody else possesses! YOU FOOL! Do you honestly think  ANY of what I posted would even raise an eyebrow with some vice-cop, considering the shit he ha  to deal with on a daily basis??

At first I thought you couldn't focus, but now I realize you are simply retarded, and I'm sorry, but there's no pill that will cure that....

Restating someone's arguments in different language isn't putting words in people's mouths- the absence of quote marks should have been a clue there. But since my rhetorical restatement offended you, OK, fine: skullfucking messed up streetwalkers isn't your thing- but some sort of sexual activity is, yeah?

"You can continue to decieve yourself by standing on a mountain of sand and shit claiming you're on high ground, but we are all devents in one form or another!"

So, are you using deviance as "not normal", or "pretty fucked up shit"? Ted Bundy was a sexual "deviant". We're all on the same level as Ted Bundy? And if not, then apparently, yeah, there ARE some things that are beyond the pale. (Note that I'm not calling what your practices are equivalent to a serial killer and sexual predator- just that we MIGHT have an argument for saying some things are pretty creepy and unacceptable.)

"I never referenced what you did, which is only a TINY percentage of world sex-trade activities!"

Well, duh. I'm not writing a PhD thesis on the history of prostitution, just replying to someone on a message board, who seems surprised that people will jump his shit when it turns out they don't find the comedy stylings of mentally ill and vulnerable people in prostitution to be as funny and satisfying as you do. I used some examples from history to say that (big surprise) not all tastes match your own.

"You speak as though I'm preying on people that except for my actions wouldn't be otherwise getting fucked"

Read your own quote again. You find amusement and pleasure in the actions of mentally ill and drug-addicted streetwalkers. You're susprised people find your lack of empathy pretty disturbing, and then you start making Bible quotes about beams and motes when people call you out (and from what I recall, the guy responsible for your quote actually tried to HELP prostitutes, tax collectors and society's outcasts, as opposed to deriving amusement from them).

You're either rather oblivious if you don't think people wouldn't find that attitude offensive, or just trolling. Maybe Fletch can help with that one.

And saying it's not your problem and you're just part of a crowd of dicks is like saying that the (hypothetical, just to be clear, since I have no idea what car your drive) Hummer you drive isn't really THAT important when it comes to the greenhouse effect, or that just because you eat meat you buy at the store you aren't morally responsible for the death of animals, as opposed the guy who runs the slaughterhouse.

I call bullshit. Willing participation in a scene with eyes wide open implies consent and approval- and YOU were the one who said you got your kicks from seeing strung-out ladies.

"I DID NOT state that anyone shouldn't post ANY opinion they had about me or anything else!"

I didn't say you did- I said what I said, not that YOU said that. So why take offense when other posters don't like what you like, and they say something about it? You seem to think this is all about personal tastes in "deviancy"- so why get your hackles up when people's tastes don't agree with yours? You seem awfully defensive for someone who likes to PRESENT yourself as self-assured about your "deviancy". Why bother responding to us, then? Is there a particular need to spread the Gospel according to Dirty Jesus?

an H3 though, so I get 20+mpg and don't contribute much more to greenhousing than that old beat up Civic you drive...

As far as "offended", Nope, not me... Don't assume that just because I challenge your opinion that I'm offended or that I even want you to change... You be you and I'll be me... But I won't be changing the way I hobby anytime soon just because you disapprove....

(I like qoute marks, they add "Pizzaz" to what I type! ;>)

not massage parlor and unless you consider my foot up your ass to be a happy ending, you will NOT be getting one.

You seem to have too much faith in prescription meds while I prefer a more holistic and natural approach.
May I suggest a long series of colonic irrigations? I don't have to be a qualified colonic hydrotherapist to know that you are completely full of shit.

What a suprise! I live a completely holistic lifestyle as well! (That's why I thought the persriptions were so satirical, lol!)

But maybe a tab of magnesium under your tongue will clear up your imagined fears... Or just take a deep breath and chew on some milkthistle...

Reeeper than you think...

...is he fucking with you all. Good job DJ . Moral hypocrisy meets intellectual void (and pixelized tits). Only in America. Still LMAO.