Las Vegas

Lorena, if you took me by my arm I'd let you lead me into temptation! ~eom~
MrTwister 3 Reviews 1694 reads
posted
1 / 28

I'm at the bar. You are too. You're looking for action, so am I. That's why I'm there, same as you. We get talking, I like you, but I want to do some face to face verification. For my own peace of mind. Do you mind me asking you....'are you on TER'? The ones who are seem to get a kick out of it. The ones who aren't don't seem to know what it is, which makes sense. But is that generally true? Do you mind me whipping out my phone and checking a few things, right in front of you? It seems mildly rude, to be honest, but maybe you're cool with it...I honestly don't know. So that's why I am asking

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 1514 reads
posted
2 / 28

First off, I don't hang around the casinos and bars looking for men to see. I do for fun. So.. This is what I would do.

I would first ask you to be beyond quiet and discreet.
I would let you have me TER number.
I would let you read my reviews.
Then I would let you email me screening info.  

I would probably take a little walk while you looked it over. So you wouldn't feel pressured..  

I look at our little club like a secrets society with some nosey folks here and there that don't belong...

Just remember.. Sometimes we go to the bars and etc for fun. We are people and we do have social lives. If I was with a friend who didn't know... Maybe she was in the bathroom.. Maybe she is the bartender.. I would be very upset if you were anything but discreet.  

Discretion is key in this little club of ours. So just use it wisely and you should be ok. :

MrTwister 3 Reviews 1364 reads
posted
3 / 28

Ok..fair....but let me qualify this by saying..by the time I ask that question...I have already been asked "so, do you wanna have some fun'? I'm certainly not leading with 'duh, are you on TER?" When that question pops out of my mouth, we are so far beyond where the conversation is heading, or has already traversed, it's not a question of 'what's going on here?'. Also, if I ask, and I leave it to those simple three letters, without describing what they stand for...they either know, or they don't. If they don't, it's dropped.  

I had it happen 4 times this weekend. It was 50/50. I was just taking a personal survey...but I totally respect what you're saying and I consider myself part of the 'ter community' as well, and have no interest in unveiling it's precious secrets. As I said, the ones who didn't know what it was, it was left at that.

Thanks for the response.

harley641 4 Reviews 1140 reads
posted
4 / 28

Because it has real world applications.   :-). I hope to read more comments and insights.

In my experiences of being approached, almost none of them understood what I meant if I asked if they were reviewed or on TER.   A very easy way to say thank you for your offer, but I am not interested and go back to playing video poker.  :-)

MfSD 39 Reviews 1065 reads
posted
5 / 28

I wouldn't even consider this approach. Setting up time in advance and having a back up plan is comfortable and works for me. I'm no damn secret agent, whispering code words in some casino bar. Mi dos centavos.

MfSD>>>>

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 1109 reads
posted
6 / 28

Since I do not go to the bars to look for dates, I guess my opinions on this aren't really the opinions that you would be looking for...

My only thoughts are.. If you approach a lady in the bar, I would compare that communication with emailing or calling a lady in advance. You're communicating to see if you would be a good match.
You would ask a lady in email or via phone for her reviews, so why would asking a lady at the bar for her reviews be any different?

In a city, especially one like Vegas, if a lady does not have reviews and you have randomly met her.. Be it's. P4P or a civvie pickup.. Just be sue that
1) only you order your drinks and they never leave your sight.
2) everything in your room of value is locked up. All electronics and cash and etc.

Anyone care to add to the list?

Dear OP, I know you aren't claiming to take non verified ladies upstairs.. This is just to the gents who are considering it.
Fwiw, I would always have my cash in a safe. I just leave out my iPhone to play music.. The main concern with a random lady is that she will drug your drink or get you when you're least expecting (shower, asleep, or drugged out).

harley641 4 Reviews 946 reads
posted
7 / 28

This isn't an approach, lol.   Just the reality of a man alone sitting at bar in Vegas.  

When I do play, it is with someone I have verified through TER/p411 and if I am fortunate, someone that I have already met at one of the Vegas M&Gs.   Just no reason to see someone not verified.  
Posted By: MfSD
I wouldn't even consider this approach. Setting up time in advance and having a back up plan is comfortable and works for me. I'm no damn secret agent, whispering code words in some casino bar. Mi dos centavos.  
   
 MfSD>>>>

MrTwister 3 Reviews 987 reads
posted
8 / 28

Again...appreciate your response and your insight. Sincerely.

Also, understand that the situation I am talking about is not me going to the bar trying to find a date. Honestly. In all four cases, I was either sitting there minding my own business with someone else, or just enjoying a drink alone and playing some video poker. Not even thinking about that. All four times approached, in some way or another, by the woman, who then, as fast as they can get their heinies to that end of the conversation, asking me "so, do you wanna have some fun"? Seems to be the standard line. And like one of the previous responders..it is a quick way to ferret out the quality from the trash. And by trash I mean the kind of women you're talking about...looking to rob some poor guy.  

It's not a terrible way for a woman who doesn't have something lined up to try to get some business. For a provider to try and find a date at a bar, I mean. There's nothing wrong with it if you're careful. And if she IS on TER, and therefore, in some way SORT of pre-qualifies it for the GUY...then why not use it!?!? I mean..to your point about being careless etc..I understand. But qualifying the situation goes both ways. And if you can do it in person, and not over the internet or email...seems WAY better for both parties if you ask me. I guess you think that approach is somehow sleazy or cliche..and in some ways I agree with you. But in others, it's perfect.  

Anyway, you made good points. For me and others...so again, thank you.

PS..wanna meet sometime? ;) You seem cool

MrTwister 3 Reviews 845 reads
posted
9 / 28

Really man. Come on..'whispering code words"? Like hiding behind some computer screen arranging 'dates' is somehow more 'above board'. FU.

Like harley said...I'm just sitting there. It's not a strategy. It's just something I was curious about. And the thought of it becoming a date, if the situation is right, is not out of the question...so it doesn't seem quite as sinister as your description, ie 'whispering code words'.  

And for the record, I will state again...two of the women were, and neither minded the question, both actually seemed to appreciate my knowledge of it and relaxed..ALOT. And if you're in that line of business and you are propositioning customers, then I'd like to know if you're okay with it. That's all. It's not me soliciting, it's them.

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 1037 reads
posted
10 / 28

I don't have a personal opinion on ladies who meet via TER or the bar or both..
I can't say that it hasn't happened to me.. It used to happen a lot in Atlantic City.. I don't drink alcohol anymore so I rarely find myself at a bar.. Unless I'm with friends or visiting a bartender friend..
I personally just choose to arrange dates via the Internet. It's my comfort zone so it just works best for me.
To the ladies who can arrange these in person - sometimes I'm a little jealous..  
I haven't crossed the waters in to feeling comfortable discussing this. I mean., if the guy doesn't get the jist of it.. Or.. I don't know.. It's just a comfort level for me. :) It's what works for me and that's my only concern

Heathergfe See my TER Reviews 1351 reads
posted
11 / 28

I think if a guy asked me I would smile and say, "Are you?". Then we would have a good laugh/conversation. I don't find it offensive. I think it is a nice ice breaker. I've never had the opportunity to do a legit bar pick up. I just don't feel comfortable asking "are you ready for some fun?"and then figuring out how to screen the guy and then having to negotiate fees. Or whatever the process is. Gosh, if a guy walks up and hands me a card with his p-411 ID and lets me check my phone real quick to verify him I might just take the plunge.  
So the reverse question to guys.... If a lady walks up to you in a bar and says'"Are you TER whitelisted or a member of p-411?" would you be offended?

Hpygolky 214 Reviews 1198 reads
posted
12 / 28

Hell, I'd consider it a badge of honor, our little "Secret society club". And if she's hot, then its game on and I would then go into my Tarzan yell and pound my chest.....lol

RokkKrinn 1201 reads
posted
13 / 28

..."I'll show you mine if you show me yours..."

We hold up our phones, which have a QR code that ties into our TER/P411/whatever, each take a look at what we've found out about the other, and each of us can make an informed decision about whether or not to proceed.....

Or not.  Something like that is way too high profile for me.  Do we really want all of "them" to know about what we do and how we do it?  It was bad enough a few years ago when that hour-long documentary aired endlessly on CNBC, with its multiple screenshots of the TER homepage and the homepages of some of the star providers of the late 00s.  That's about as much exposure as the hobby needs.

Asking about TER at a bar is sort of at the level of "Joe sent me," I guess--an interesting social experiment perhaps, but I think the "I know I'm an idiot because I waited until the last minute, but is anyone free tonight..." ISO post is still a better way to go than meeting someone randomly at a bar and then trying to establish credentials with one another..

Just spitballin', though.  It's an interesting topic.  Although as with so much about the hobby, Vegas is different from most markets.  I don't think I'm gonna get cruised sitting at the Quick Draw Lotto counter in my local candy/smokes/magazine/light grocery store in a typical Anytown--or even at an upscale hotel bar.  Vegas has its own rules...

MfSD 39 Reviews 1030 reads
posted
14 / 28

Really man, you wasted three paragraphs responding to my throw away one ? Plus an FU ? Perhaps you take these boards and TER light banter (and perhaps yourself), more seriously than I do.

MfSD>>>>

MrTwister 3 Reviews 1035 reads
posted
15 / 28

hat was the premise of my scenario...well, sort of. I guess I started the question by saying I went looking for it, but in reality, the question was more based on my own experience. It wasn't " I'm an idiot for not pre-planning, so is anyone free (and let's get to verifying)"...it was "I'm sitting at the bar NOT looking for it"...and then the process starts, initiated by a woman...THEN the experiment/question kicks in.  

I can see after reading enough responses that my premise is a little caveman-esque, ie rude and primitive. It's not something I would/will do as a practice. Just curious about the perception of it...and now I see it's pretty weak.

So...hobby on.

An observational sidenote is that as the night gets older, the boldness of women looking for a date goes up exponentially. It went from the casual encounter at the bars to walking down the hallway out of casinos and running into chicks who then blurted out 'hey, wanna have some?". Pretty brazen..but I guess that's Vegas. Which is why I love that town!

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 1161 reads
posted
16 / 28

...in the Summer 2012, I was out walking the strip in the afternoon and I was in the temporary walkway they had set up after they took down O'Shea's and were developing the Linq. The covered walkway was filled with people walking both directions. I was headed North when a pretty young AA woman, walking South, suddenly just reversed direction, linked arms with me and started engaging me in small talk. Petite, curly flowing and hi-lited brown hair, dressed in a short, flowery summery dress with heels and large shades. Just the type of woman I'm attracted to. I was cool, I know the game and I enjoyed the public display of affection. She asked me if I'd like some company for the afternoon. I told her I thought she was very pretty and I might be, and asked her if she had a TER profile I could look up. Right away she said no. I told her I only see women who have positive TER reviews. She then offered that, "but I could give you a really good deal". I then literally bit my lips together so I wouldn't ask "how much?" as that, if it were a LE setup, would put me into the solicitation phase. At the end of the walkway, we unlinked arms and she left me, ready to begin her next lap thru the walkway. It can be SO hard to resist being hit on outside of your safety zone.

MrTwister 3 Reviews 1111 reads
posted
17 / 28

plus an FU. yup.  

good back pedal. now it's light banter and you're not/never serious. you're the guy who yells insults in a crowd and when there's a reaction, you duck so the person you aimed it at doesn't see you.

good luck buddy

Lovely Lorena See my TER Reviews 968 reads
posted
18 / 28

I would start asking you a million questions!! :-) :-)
most likely I dont have people In my ordinary life asking TER.. yet, In the right atmosphere I am honored when I get a lil email saying..  
"Lorena, I think I saw you at ..... was that you?"

getting back to if I wanted to play and enjoy a lil TER time .If someone said that first it would be much better/rather awesome.. than ..
"hey are you on craigslist?" lol

Just my non chalant loving life way :-))
xoxo Lovingly  
Lovely lorena

MfSD 39 Reviews 981 reads
posted
20 / 28

It's always been light banter Twisty. Feel free to respond with another paragraph or five.  

MfSD>>>>

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MrTwister 3 Reviews 793 reads
posted
21 / 28

If I am so inclined, I shall

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 1066 reads
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22 / 28
Stud85 956 reads
posted
23 / 28

I'd love it if I was asked this, especially by someone like you.

I ave been out and approached on occassion and would feel much better about not beig ripped off if I knew the lady is part of the TER community.

Now where can I find you when I'm visiting next month?

MrTwister 3 Reviews 1026 reads
posted
24 / 28

You would??! Ask a million questions? lol...cuz I would ask a million back! I wish had been you!!

harley641 4 Reviews 1178 reads
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28 / 28
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