Hobbyists: 1. When you find a lady that you want to do a repeat visit, do you want to go for a longer time or same ? 2. When you find a ATF - is it Only based on Sex or something more (personal connection) ?
Providers: 1. Do you have ATF's ? 2. If you repeat with a guy - would ever want a session to be longer or hope he asks fro it to go longer (i.e. dinner date, over 4 hours) ?
Was just wondering this while working out last night (I mean exercise, on a machine and NOT one of those machines) - Treadmill.
Yes I want to repeat for more time, yes its because of a personal connection, but if you start finding yourself fantasizing about a "friendship", time spent "just being together", and if you start fantasizing about them "wanting to spend time with you", "you becoming their ATF"; you a traveling down a very dangerous path.
Just remember, it's your "fantasy" and it's their "job".
Of course they are going to want to make you "feel" special. It's the next level of "girl friend experience". But they are not your girl friend, they are your fantasy provider, and you are their "envelope" provider.
Going beyond that just becomes painful and expensive.
To me a few hours is only the start of something beautiful. I tend to do well over longer engagements ,It gives me a chance to get to know someone rather then just in and out.
I have a lot to offer and there is no way I want to pack it all in 1hr or even 3 hours.I have learned that about myself over time and finding those who really enjoy the same things as I enjoy.
I have to say I cant get to know anyone in one hour ,some people arnt here to make friends or get to know anyone ,thats fine for them.Im not comfortable in a short period of time ,not my thing.
Having dinner or going out to a concert or a show is a great way to see the other side of people .Its also great fourplay as you never really know how someone is going to perform in the bedroom.
You can share eachother in more ways then physically. Your mind is a wonderful thing and when you really have a good back gound on the person and their likes and dislikes it makes for a much better connection.
It is still exciting to run in and jump someones bones from time to time
Posted By: andrew5499
Just a question for both Hobbyists and Providers
Hobbyists: 1. When you find a lady that you want to do a repeat visit, do you want to go for a longer time or same ? 2. When you find a ATF - is it Only based on Sex or something more (personal connection) ?
Providers: 1. Do you have ATF's ? 2. If you repeat with a guy - would ever want a session to be longer or hope he asks fro it to go longer (i.e. dinner date, over 4 hours) ?
Was just wondering this while working out last night (I mean exercise, on a machine and NOT one of those machines) - Treadmill.
and it has become based on the mental/emotional connection that we share more than anything else. I have an ATF that I enjoy spending longer engagements with; We go to long leisurely dinners, concerts, and shows every month... he receives a discount and we end up happily sharing a weekend together. We came to this arrangement after he kept extending his times with me and we both realized how much we enjoyed one another's company. He understands that being able to connect on all levels is so much more enjoyable than just a mere physical release....
We all have a choice in whom we spend time with; it's nice when you click with someone and can make the situation work for everyone concerned.
Posted By: andrew5499
Just a question for both Hobbyists and Providers
Hobbyists: 1. When you find a lady that you want to do a repeat visit, do you want to go for a longer time or same ? 2. When you find a ATF - is it Only based on Sex or something more (personal connection) ?
Providers: 1. Do you have ATF's ? 2. If you repeat with a guy - would ever want a session to be longer or hope he asks fro it to go longer (i.e. dinner date, over 4 hours) ?
Was just wondering this while working out last night (I mean exercise, on a machine and NOT one of those machines) - Treadmill.
1. Yes, I have a few clients who would be considered ATF's. It's about the sexual chemistry and the emotional connection. Both have to be present.
2. I'm happy to see my ATF's for any length of time I routinely offer, but of course, a longer appt with someone you really enjoy is a wonderful thing. Dinner dates are great, and overnight just strengthens the connection, IMO.
Hobbyists: 1. When you find a lady that you want to do a repeat visit, do you want to go for a longer time or same?
Usually longer.
2. When you find a ATF - is it Only based on Sex or something more (personal connection)?
With an ATF, I enjoy doing lunch/dinner, as well as longer dates so a combination of great sex, chemistry, and an increased level of trust are important.
For instance, even if a provider sends you a pic of her and her young son, also a pic of her son reading a book you gave her, even if she mails you a mushy thank you card full of the L word (and I don't mean "lesbian"), when she sends you X-rated pics and videos made especially for you, texts you while she is on tour (on brief breaks in between dates!!) telling you she misses you and wishes you were there, etc., etc. Even if she offers unprotected sex especially for you.
You are a client, not a friend and not a lover. Sometimes hard to remember that in the heat of the moment when she is giving an all-star GFE treatment. But realize she would never give you the time of day if you weren't paying for it.
Working as a provider is a great job if you have been cruelly abandoned by your husband and now despise or at least distrust men, but crave physical affection and need a pretend boyfriend.
Variety is the spice of life - NEVER focus on one lady!!! NEVER!!!!
Occasionally I meet a lady in this hobby that I feel something special for, enjoy just being with her and like to take her out for an evening. I'll do dinner, drinks maybe a club, a show or a stroll. However, when the date is over, I don't fool myself that we have a future or connection outside of the hobby.
1. When you find a lady that you want to do a repeat visit, do you want to go for a longer time or same ?
Depends.
I have regulars where it has been the usual one hour outcall for years, and we both enjoy. And I have regulars where we've done longer things: shows, overnights, dive bar hopping in Ed's limo, etc.
2. When you find a ATF - is it Only based on Sex or something more (personal connection) ?
Always a connection, of sorts. As providers in this thread have said, you'd better "get it." In over 4 years of hobbying, I would say I have one---say it again, one---person who I feel is really a friend.
And even regulars with whom you feel a bit of a connection go away, leave the business, get married, have kids. Never assume anything.
I had noticed when looking at some provider ads, that rates are a little less for longer periods. Just wondered if providers prefer longer dates - seems like some do. I can totally understand the concerns people have concerning "going beyond" the provider \ client relationship - especially if you are selecting a GFE that would be considered more personal in nature because of the service.
In Vegas I doubt many people could go overboard, as most of the men are visiting on vacation or for conference. Now seeing a provider who is more local and more accessible could cause more issues.
Interesting responses, thank you all for taking the time to reply.
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