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MP1981 5 Reviews 1335 reads
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This entire thread could have been handled in private by the two principals involved.  This kind of back and forth ads nothing of value to the community.  Just my opinion, but this could have been handled better by both parties.

FoxHunt112993 reads

in protecting hobbyists from providers who will out them.

I made the following post to the ad board:

Please read the following thread priot to booking:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=131269&boardID=3&page=#131269

A comment that simply recommended that a hobbyist review a thread on TER prior to booking the provider in question.

I appears to be an honest discussion regarding what to do when a client NCNS at the last minute.  It appears the consensus was NOT to "black list" but to use an alternative form of sharing intel.

Similar posts from hobbyist about providers are listed a few threads down, but no names are mentioned, so I don't believe it is considered "outing"

In general, in addition to reviews hobbyist should search the board for threads from providers to get a sense of their personality.  Providers do the same on us.

I dont think attaching that comment to an ad is the correct thing to do.

FoxHunt111741 reads

Blacklisted the guy for a NCNS.  All I am doing is making her potential clients aware that she thinks its an appropriated response.  Hobbyists and other providers disagreed with her, but she did not and has not backed off her blacklist of the guy who NCNSed her.

from what I know about the blacklist, once posted the provider cannot remove it.

WRONG!

You say that provider look for your thread to get a feel of who you are but guess what???
Aliases fake this all system!!!

As a matter of fact, this alias thing is very dangerous to provider!!

Lets say foxhunt11 is actually dangerous, he is a stalker that deep down wants to harm woman...(or me in particular...)
He will have no problem booking me with his reel handle while the alias handle really shows the dark side of that man!!!

Not only this put provider at risk...it also give a chance to hobbyist to trash talk more than ever!



-- Modified on 11/7/2012 6:33:45 PM

I am a hobbyist-last week i was stood up by the same girl-on two consetutive days-first day-change appointment time -up 4hrs-never showed up latter told me had car accident.set appointment for next day.i asked if she was ok.missed the next appointment than text me 4hrs later that she is on the way--i text her back-forget it. honey i am so sorry you had this experience-it happens to both providers and hobbyist. your a sweet girl.

Exactly...

I took time to be cute, put on my lingerie, do my hair, my make up, took a cab, waited and waited and waited...

There is NO reason why I have the person on the phone 10min before arrival and then stop answering (to find out later on that he chickened out)

Now it looks like Foxhunter is trying to warm other hobbyist about me (everyone knows I'm the the biggest rip off on TER right? Lol!)

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I TRIED TO DO:
Warn other provider about HIM! So if it happens again, girls will know not to deal with him.

Foxhunter is blaming me from warning the other escort about a prankster but yet try to make me look like a black beast???
So hes warning other people that I actually do my job right? No escort want to go trough a no show no call, and if I can help prevent it I WILL!
He has been stalking me for a long time now, this guy (or girl ) kinda freaks me out because I never was able to put sense to people hating just for the hell of it???
It's quite scary to know someone you never even met is out to get you so bad when you worked real hard to get where you at...

I will suggest you foxhunter to simply get a life...


-- Modified on 11/7/2012 6:04:37 PM

Have long been that you can't post negative comments on a provider's ad. That was the case even prior to having seperate ad boards. You can post comments on the discussion board as you have here (and they let this stand). But not on the ad board. In fact at the top of the ad board it says, "Any post that is not a provider ad will be removed." But obviously they allow positive replies to an ad stay.

Not taking sides, here or white knighting, but just stating the rules. Your post was out of place on the ad board. Even if a provider outright robbed you, you would not be able to post that on the ad board. You can write a review. You can post on the discussion board, but not the ad board.

I can't imagine anyone canceling over 6 minutes.  I'd bet anything this was about money.  Cold feet at the last second.  Especially if the guy has a white list.  He knew the drill and I'm sure he's had to wait longer than 6 minutes on more than one occasion.  Depending on where you are staying it can take forever just to park your car or go through strip traffic.

Having met Frenchie it was definitely his loss!

The hobbyist should understand that when you book a time, the provider takes it seriously since its a contract between 2 ADULTS.

She will get prepared and polished just for you...
She will hold that time slot just for you...
You might of have a SPA day that she cancelled to pamper YOU instead
She might of tell other potential client that she wasn't available because this time window is taken

So when a hobbyist think a no show no call is OK, it is NOT!!!

-- Modified on 11/7/2012 7:55:08 PM

I agree that a paltry six minutes for a ncns is beyond excessive.  But as an experienced hobbyist I can say that nothing is more off putting than when providers are late.  I had a very well reviewed and respected Miami provider once tell me that her attitude is that if she did not show up early to an outcall property she was in fact late.  Part of the deal with a high class provider is that they will be on time even if that means getting there ten or so minutes early and sitting in the car for a few minutes to kill time until the agreed upon time.  That being said, the occasional late arrival is usually not a big deal with me as long as there is communication,which in this case Frenchie clearly did.  I can also say that if a poll were to be taken on why hobbyists do not see providers on a repeat basis, tardiness and unreliability would rank very,very high on the list.  In fact the only thing that would trump that, IMHO, is a provider who blatantly falsely advertises.  All in all, I think Frenchie is free and clear of anything that should harm her good rep.  If she didn't post him on NBL for this than she should have nothing to worry about.  These are just my opinions, and I am not taking sides with either party.

I just checked my web site and I got over 500 hits on it over night! Haha cool!

So thank you for getting people interested in checking who I am! I guess they must of like what they saw since my week in vegas is filling up faster than it shadow at this point!

You actually greatly helped my business sweet heart!

I couldn't be more grateful for all that time you spend stalking me, you got me a little famous on here, I LOVE IT!


That said, i send bunch of kisses your way! As many kisses as we have losers in this world!
Thats quite a few kisses!!!

;))

Was there any mention/offer of paying a cancellation fee?

Fox...

Since you love diging so deep into my business

What dont you prove it?
Cause you cant stupid, no one was listed on NBL but i sure should of!

Not all press is good press. I suggest really reading what people are saying and trying to find a middle ground.



Do I agree that some guys need to be listed as a problem? YES
Do I agree that a NCNS is a blacklistable offense? NO
Do I think there are many many places for info on FLAKES? YES


There are many clubs and other sites where ladies can see who has done what and when and to who. No need to put someone on the NBL for a flake or being stood up IMO. Overkill and vindictive I feel. Chalk it up as lesson learned and require deposits for new clients but there isn't a need to punish someone for having no balls. If the guy HURT you or ROBBED you or tried BAREBACK then YES please blacklist those people!!!


Bragging that your site got 500 hits may not be a good thing. Maybe they were all taking notes on you and making mental images of who to avoid. Again: LOVE YOU you are cute and I like seeing you at M&Gs but this sort of thing is BAD PRESS and it's best to quit replying and move on instead of getting more and more worked up.

Right...
This is what I thought, He spend his ALL day on this board only to make sure to let everyone know I'm doing my job!
Pathectic

Dude, get it straight, all that negative energy over ME?

Im soooooooo flattered!

Just like Kat williams said: the only thing a hater is suppose to do is HATE
I'm glad I gave you some work to fill up your poor day fox!

If anyone need to hate on someone, feel free to hate on me, and while you waisting your time, I'm on my way to get a couple of orgasm...ooops, did I say a couple? My bad, I'm about to get a FEW!!!

Kiss kiss

FoxHunt111447 reads

You indicate that my post is GOOD for your business.  If so, why are you spending your time slamming me and calling me a stalker.

My post on the Ad board was simply a recommendation to hobbyists that they read your original rant.  I did not even indicate why they should read it.  That simple posting is so good for your business you had it removed.

Your original post indicated you blacklisted the guy, under his real name, for a NCNS.  Well I cannot control what you do, but a big part of this service is to provide information about providers to hobbyists.   All I am doing is telling hobbyists that the should read the comments that YOU PUT ON THE BOARD.  

If a guy NCNS's you, you think it is perfectly okay to out him and blacklist him.  I disagree and I am simply telling hobbyists what you'll do to them if they NCNS you.  Those that think it would be fine for a provider to out them over a NCNS are free to book you, my guess is that is a smaller population than those that would wish to avoid you based upon that information.

I posted the link on this board because it is the board I frequent the most and I saw your ad.  
According to you, this is good for your business.  So I assume you want to send me a percentage of your increased earnings for the service?

Again, I am doing nothing more or less than REPEATING AND LINKING TO COMMENTS YOU MADE ON THIS BOARD.

Lol
You should ask for a raise sweety
You are working for free! Thats OK, you have sooooo much time on your hands right?

Now I will not justify myself everytime you will bring this situation up.

I'm just confused why you are spending so much time on my case?

I'm in the top 100 provider in the NATION, my reputation is steal baby, why trying so hard to mess with a business that have such strong fondations? You are liturally wasting your time!

I just want EVERYONE to know that you are deranged in many ways!

Who do you think people pay attention to?

An elite provider OR
an internet troll?

THINK!
;)

This entire thread could have been handled in private by the two principals involved.  This kind of back and forth ads nothing of value to the community.  Just my opinion, but this could have been handled better by both parties.


D this is exactly what I did when I realized he had the nerves to attached his absurd comment on my AD!
I sent him a pm...well He never answer the PM I sent him only to find out he started this all thread publically instead. PROVOCATION???

I did try to handle the issue like I should.
I can let a perfect stranger say stuff about me he can not even back up.

Come on now...this is exactly what I sent him on the PM: no one cares!!!

Posted By: MP1981
This entire thread could have been handled in private by the two principals involved.  This kind of back and forth ads nothing of value to the community.  Just my opinion, but this could have been handled better by both parties.

for clients that were a danger or threat to us? No one likes to have their time wasted and unfortunately it happens to all of us at some time in this hobby. I would blast him everywhere else as a ns/nc, but blacklist? That seems a pretty heavy price to pay for nc/ns. He cost you money and time, but he wasn't a danger to you. Just my opinion, but I think Blacklisting is a serious thing to do to someone and a decision that should be thought out carefully.

Hugs,
Bobbi

Thanks Bobbi bc that was my point. I am REALLY glad his information didn't end up on NBL.

I still cannot for the life of me understand why anyone uses The National Blacklist? Outside of a man being physically violent, shorting, removing the condom or some really off the wall stuff during an appointment......why use that site? I know a ncns is ANNOYING and completely disrespectful...but a public blacklisting on that site should mean the lady had substantial grounds to make a police report.

NBL is indexed by search engines which means we will forget about this entire incident in a month....in the mean time....this man...will have all his information on blast FOREVER.

Not that the pob here or anywhere is completely safe but, was anything posted about this on the ladies board here? A simple "Vegas asshole complete DOUCHE BAG client fucking stood me up, please pm me for details" would have been a great alternative. The ladies would have done like we always do which is to respond OMG GIRL WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE BAG FUCKTARD....emailed the op for the mans hobby information...and put him on the "only see if you take a deposit list"

Did you post on Safe Office? or Dangerzone?


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