they usually never do.  It's just a nice way to put you off.  So good luck with that.

I booked a rendezvous with a highly regarded and excellently and multiply TER reviewed local GFE provider ( who shall remain un-named) on a recent visit to LV. Well, she cancelled on me very close to the appointment time but offered to send " a beautiful girl" to me in her place.  I hesitated to accept initially, but since I was en route to LV at the time and without Internet access, I agreed to accept the offer.  Big mistake!  The girl was actually beautiful, but.....kept pushing back the appointment time such that we actually met 2 hours later than originally arranged, high intensity upsell throughout the meeting, absolutely miserable service...the complete antithesis of GFE....almost no touch except for CBJ...left after 20 mins and no completion AND she managed to rummage through my belongings and steal several hundred dollars while she was there.  In short, a complete and utter disaster!!  Turns out this girl is not to be found on TER.

Why did this happen?  Because I didn't follow my own simple rules:  only see well and multiply reviewed TER girls, who offer the services you like, with whom you have been able to establish some rapport by email and or phone/ text beforehand.  Never try for last minute unknowns and don't take a " blind" referral without doing homework on the girl yourself.

Burned because I broke my own rules!  Hope someone else can learn from this too and avoid a similar disaster.

the "highly regarded and excellently and multiply TER reviewed local GFE provider", who recommended her!

Also write a ripoff review for this girl, and you might want to consider outing the girl who recommended her or at least giving the name by Pm to this who wish.

At a minimum, you should let her know so that she won't use the bitch as a substitute again. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't already know that she was a thief. She should also offer to partly make it up to you in some way. If she's not willing to do that, come back on here and let us know who it was.

Yes I did notify her and yes she did promise to make it up to me.

Peace

Giorgio

Another rule I keep is when having someone over I keep any excess cash in the wall safe along with my wallet with my id and credit cards. So the only thing in the room is her gift and nothing I'd be sorry to lose. If you want my toothbrush and razor well more power to ya!

I am very new to this.  I am trying to find my way into this hobby.  I wish to know about these so called professionals that keep " recommending stand ins etc,".  I am scared to take any person's word?  I keep  narrowing down the list, then I hear of reviewed providers screwing people over.  What is a newbie supposed to do?

Please help!

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He didn't actually meet the original provider that was booked and the provider he met probably doesn't have a Website and other info that is required by TER to submit a review.                                                  Sorry you had a horrible experience. Once she started the up sell. You should have asked  her to leave!          

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But, can she be found anywhere?  That is, does she have an ad somewhere, or a web site?  If so, then you should do as some of the others above have said, write a review, sooner rather than later (to use a cliche).

If she can't be found on the internet, at least tell us what name she was using and give us a description.    

hehe 'toothbrush and razor' lol  too funny...

This is all so crazy to me... I guess when the Provider isn't  here for the right reasons ...they resort to preposterous behavior like that.

It's helpful if you write a review or at least a post for ALL of us, in case a Provider is ever given her info as a reference!

xoxo

My thought is if you don't name the person that showed up, or do a review, then all the highly regarded providers referrals will be questioned. A review would be best as then at least we would have a Ph# to be able to search for if we do get a referral, because she will not use the same name again.
Sorry for what you've gone through, I've had good luck with referrals in the past. Most providers know their rep is on the line with bad replacement referrals.

The girl I met doesn't have a TER profile or other online presence that I can find.  

The originally scheduled provider, I believe, had nothing but good intentions and feels that she, too, was "burned" by this girl in this situation.  She is profusely apologetic and I find her genuine in her desire to make things right.

Many have asked me to ID this TER provider, so that they can avoid a similar experience.  I say, if you hobby smartly, which I obviously failed to do, you should be well able to avoid this type of situation.  

I posted only that others too might learn by my very very dumb mistakes.

End of discussion.

Peace

Giorgio

Do your homework and trust yourself.  I am painting nobody.

Giorgio

giorgio2 I guess uses TER for his research, but has no reviews, so he complains about not doing his research but does not contribute to the community...

Consider: no names, no online presence, no ability to post a review, not willing to out your steady. So nothing that can help the next guy beyond some "be careful"- no shit, Sherlock. Basically "Don't be an idiot like I was (but I can't be specific and help you avoid this particular provider who apparently will send a ROB if she's busy, because, well, she tells me she didn't mean it)." What it boils down to is you're telling us a sob story about your bad experience as if we were your therapist. Do you want a tissue?

News flash- we're not your therapists, and we don't give a shit about how you got ripped off if you aren't going to actually HELP us avoid it, because we've all seen it before (and this is actually an issue for ladies AND guys, as Aerial points out), and if you are such a shrinking violet that you won't name names, because you don't feel it's fair to your regular lady, you might as well have not wasted our time. Anyone can say things like "be safe". Party of hobbying smartly is SHARING INFORMATION, not just leeching off the experiences of others who offered up the reviews you've used to have good experiences, and then telling sob stories with no details when you fuck up. So you're still making mistakes. Try to learn from this other one you've made. Either give us details or go about your business.

...so here is my take.  I have thought long and hard about this and ultimately say screw it, I have no dog in this fight and nothing to lose or gain from making my suspicions public.

First, let me say that I have no way to be 100% certain without the OP admitting it publicly but this behavior is 100% consistent with what I have personally experienced with Elizabeth Layne.

On two separate occasions, I had appointments set with Ms. Layne to visit me at my hotel.  Now these were not last minute gigs but in both cases, were set up at least 2 weeks ahead of time.  And both times, she called at the last minute with a BS excuse and offered to send a "friend" of hers over.

Prior to the first date we chatted on the phone a couple of times and she seemed genuinely happy that we were going to meet.  Then she calls and says she can't make it and offered to send in a replacement which I declined.  Lots of other fish in the sea and I did not have a computer with me to check her out.  After the first cancellation I figured what the hell, it happens.  No harm, no foul and no need or reason to post anything negative.

When I returned to Vegas next time, I still wanted to see her so I made another appointment.  I did not say anything about the past and again we talked on the phone and I was looking forward to our date.  Sure enough, an hour before the appointed time, she calls saying she can't make it and offered to send a replacement.  Now I am a little pissed off but I took her up on her offer.  Her replacement was ok, but not what I was really looking for.

So she is two for two with the exact same behavior.  Don't really know why nor do I now care as she has been removed from my bucket list.  

For the record, I do not have many reviews posted here and there is a reason for that which I don't care to go into but I have been playing this game for many years.  Secondly, both appointment requests were made through P411 where she advertises and where I have lots of provider OK's.  So I don't understand the cancellations.

So there you go giorgio, I will take the heat for you and you have to admit nothing.  But, you can chime in to confirm or deny it or elect to remain silent.

I am not saying that it was her in this case.  It may not have been.  I am just pointing out a similar pattern of behavior.

...that the provider in question in this case was not Elizabeth Layne.  But, the rest of my story still stands.

I'm using an alias for a very definite reason:  I was with the young lady in question this weekend, the highly reviewed TER member, and while not directly involved in what was going on, definitely heard the gist of everything.  As I heard it OP, the schedule for your appointment kept getting moved back due to your schedule, which all of us travelers experience.  She goes to school (not high school, mind you, lol), and had class the next morning.  She is not an early riser.  I believe it was when a midnight time came into play that she begged off and offered to have another girl fill in for her.  As a hobbyist as well, a late cancellation is always frustrating, as you have no one else lined up.  I think she provided what she thought would be a suitable replacement, but believe me, she did not know this girl and relied on others.  Her desire to satisfy you is what caused this scenario, and she will address this issue.

I do not speak for her, and I'm going to be getting a rough call here shortly when she reads this.  I am not her white knight, just thought the forum should have some facts from "the other side of the situation".  I'm sorry this happened to you.  She is too.  She learned a very valuable lesson.  And yes, she is known for making up for things (personal testimony).

I got the rough call.. she will handle it.. and I will bow out with all due respect..

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Stealing is just BAD for business I don't care if its from a dead man who just cashed a 10k pay check. Then he's struck by a car crossing in a pedestrian walk way ...! Why do some girls and ladies do this, it just leaves the next girl open for a hostile encounter?  When a provider whether on the TER,UTR,Agency,Brothel passes a girl on to a client she should have a history with said lady to insure the regular/newbie he or she is recieving said service. Pretty soon many clients are going to seek out more brothels because a girl stealing cash,CC,jewelry will turn a ***** client into a Mr. Meanie! He will start to secure a Mistress for the long term or street walker for a quick fix. Girls in brothels will be terminated for that shady practice especially if its a legal one in Nevada,Netherlands,Europe.

and in this case I was wrong.  Saw a strikingly similar pattern of behavior and made an incorrect assumption.