: K-girls Discussion : Whose complaining about combining profile?

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 4280 reads

posted 13 years ago

1 / 20

Congratulations to the bro who reported that Choco changed...

...her name to Sira when she moved back east. Although one reviewer specifically mentioned the name change, someone still had to take the initiative to actually report it to TER.

This could only be helpful to the Tyson's Corner hobbyists who now are able to see Choco's excellent reputation and know they're not getting a pig in a poke.

yon 53 Reviews 1330 reads

posted 13 years ago

2 / 20

She was not too happy about it

I think she wanted a different profile because she is offering different service out here. She was also none too happy about changes made to her profiles. Since when does TER change what's on someone's profile based on a single review. I've been trying to change certain things back on her behalf, but TER wants to hear directly from the lady. You know that's not going to happen. TER's MO is certainly incompatible in many ways with how these girls work.

Exaggerated reviews can create unreasonable expectations upon future clients and inevitable disappointment when she is unable or unwilling to perform those services mentioned. OTOH, guys who make up fake uninspiring reviews for VIP weeks are just as bad.

Rodgerdaily 47 Reviews 1262 reads

posted 13 years ago

3 / 20

Re: She was not too happy about it

Thats an interesting point you bring up. I suspect ter's position is to help the monger and not care about the girl because who pays for the vip? Its like anything in life, follow the dollars.

Although, I have seeninfo from providers pages change, such as service available and price changes. Does anyone know if a any of the ladys tried contacting ter to have things like fake reviews or false information on their profile changed

yon 53 Reviews 1059 reads

posted 13 years ago

4 / 20

I think it works if the provider has a presence on TER

I think it works if a provider has a regular presence in TER. However, I don't know of a single "K-girl provider" who posts regularly on TER. By "K-girl provider", I mean the type of providers we discuss here and not providers who just happens to be Korean. Even those that speak pretty good English and are very keen on review scores are not VIP members.

Posted By: Rodgerdaily

Thats an interesting point you bring up. I suspect ter's position is to help the monger and not care about the girl because who pays for the vip? Its like anything in life, follow the dollars.

Although, I have seeninfo from providers pages change, such as service available and price changes. Does anyone know if a any of the ladys tried contacting ter to have things like fake reviews or false information on their profile changed?

Harpman60 901 reads

posted 13 years ago

5 / 20

Are you real?

Where do you get your logic from? Before you post you should at least check your fact and have an idea what you are talking about.

An active provider with a an ad ,recognized by , TER has a presence on TER once one of her clients reviews her on TER . Sh Once she reached a given number of reviews she join as a provider and obtain the privlages that bring including making changes to her profile or requesting to be delisted. This applies to all providers .

No members of TER are OBLIGED to post, it is a privallage that members can take advantage of. Dont confuse the issues. I have no idea how long you have been a member of TER but you need invest some time reading their in-house genrated resources to educate yourself . There is nothing worse than an ignorant person, who does not realize it and acts as if he is knowlgable. Other than when posting about your experiences most of your posts have been ill advised.

By your count during August Asian filled SEVEN pages of reviews on the LA Board , some are reviewed 20, 25 or even thirty something times in one month but only appears on the date of her last review ( the last time her profile is updated). That makes them important to TER and TER important to them. What is a greater presence than that,

Most of the LA K-girls in LA qualify for a providers membership.Many DONT know about it but until the majority of the Divas have/had regular paying accounts . A Few have provider accounts because they had contact TER about fake reviews or other issues related to their profile & their ID had to be verified to have authority to discuss an account.

The K-dolls are aware of their reviews and what is written about them on the DB. Some read it them selves while others get the info from the bookers who keep a close eye on the review boards.

It is nice to see a newbie eager to build a reputation by contributing but let me suggest you also spend time doing searches for K-dolls-divas-girls-booker on the LA DB you can learn a lot making thus making your posts more informative and you more knowledgable .

Posted By: xnyong

I think it works if a provider has a regular presence in TER. However, I don't know of a single "K-girl provider" who posts regularly on TER. By "K-girl provider", I mean the type of providers we discuss here and not providers who just happens to be Korean. Even those that speak pretty good English and are very keen on review scores are not VIP members.

Posted By: Rodgerdaily

Thats an interesting point you bring up. I suspect ter's position is to help the monger and not care about the girl because who pays for the vip? Its like anything in life, follow the dollars.

Although, I have seeninfo from providers pages change, such as service available and price changes. Does anyone know if a any of the ladys tried contacting ter to have things like fake reviews or false information on their profile changed?

Harpman60 996 reads

posted 13 years ago

6 / 20

You were among those who outed her

We may also want to grow wings to fly but can we ? There are rules, procedures, , process to follow on creating a profile. There are also guidelines and means to change a profile once its established by the first reviewer. The highly respected RH is a loyal friend of Choco and if she need advise he will oblige.

There are legitimate ( eg family, old boss ,stalker) reasons why a provider wishes or needs to change name . There are also devious reasons ( bad reviews, scammer) as well. The same applies for a touring provider irrespective if she is local, domestic or international.t

In the case of returning previous 90-day wonder K-dolls many return as independents whose previous name belongs to the agency & need a new name . it takes the first review to create a "permanent " profile. Reviewers who follow are stuck with the initial profile created by the first reviewer , including services & as far as I know a provider has to contact TER to change her profile provided she is a member or becomes a provider member.

Choco , for whatever, reasons changed her name yet used the same pics as in LA. It was a matter of time before somebody figured it out .
Despite your protestation here , you were among those who posted (first link below ) on the DC board that Sira was Choco from LA. Her LA ad and TER profiles /reviews were also posted. It not surprising TER combined / updated the profile.

If there are inconsistencies Choco or a representative can contact TER.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255362&boardID=6&page=#255362

But why are you complaining about TER combing the profiles when as the second link below show you were calling for a National Data Base for traveling / touring K-dolls. Make up you mind

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=1491&boardID=113&page=1#1491

The issue is really TER because they are inconsistent in their response to problem reports . While one is open to reporting "problems " regular rejections to legitimate reports that persist. I had 3 or 4 denied last week.

It is interesting that the blacklisted, outcast village idiot is praising the talents of someone he has not seen , know nothing about will never see. & more than likely never heard of before.

Posted By: xnyong

I think she wanted a different profile because she is offering different service out here. She was also none too happy about changes made to her profiles. Since when does TER change what's on someone's profile based on a single review. I've been trying to change certain things back on her behalf, but TER wants to hear directly from the lady. You know that's not going to happen. TER's MO is certainly incompatible in many ways with how these girls work.

Exaggerated reviews can create unreasonable expectations upon future clients and inevitable disappointment when she is unable or unwilling to perform those services mentioned. OTOH, guys who make up fake uninspiring reviews for VIP weeks are just as bad.

yon 53 Reviews 1077 reads

posted 13 years ago

7 / 20

Not all K-dolls are LA K-dolls

I'm speaking from my experience which may differ from yours. If everyone agreed with you, why would we need a forum to post? My membership in TER may be new, but I have been seeing K-girls for a long, long time, perhaps longer than you, and I am writing from my point of view. Choco asked me what was going on and I am just trying my best to help. Even though she has over a 100 reviews, she does not have an account with TER. I gave her the info TER Support wanted and she does not know how to approach TER to correct the mistake. She certainly does not want to give them her true ID. My experience with traveling K-girls has been almost completely in line with that. Most don't speak or write well enough to speak up to contradict fake reviews. It's easier for them to change their name for their next visit.

As far as changing a profile once it's been established, I know how difficult that can be. I've put in plenty of trouble tickets in my short stay at TER. That's why I was amazed that one reviewer could change the original profile in so many ways with his single review.

Posted By: Harpman60

We may also want to grow wings to fly but can we ? There are rules, procedures, , process to follow on creating a profile. There are also guidelines and means to change a profile once its established by the first reviewer. The highly respected RH is a loyal friend of Choco and if she need advise he will oblige.

There are legitimate ( eg family, old boss ,stalker) reasons why a provider wishes or needs to change name . There are also devious reasons ( bad reviews, scammer) as well. The same applies for a touring provider irrespective if she is local, domestic or international.t

In the case of returning previous 90-day wonder K-dolls many return as independents whose previous name belongs to the agency & need a new name . it takes the first review to create a "permanent " profile. Reviewers who follow are stuck with the initial profile created by the first reviewer , including services & as far as I know a provider has to contact TER to change her profile provided she is a member or becomes a provider member.

Choco , for whatever, reasons changed her name yet used the same pics as in LA. It was a matter of time before somebody figured it out .
Despite your protestation here , you were among those who posted (first link below ) on the DC board that Sira was Choco from LA. Her LA ad and TER profiles /reviews were also posted. It not surprising TER combined / updated the profile.

If there are inconsistencies Choco or a representative can contact TER.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255362&boardID=6&page=#255362

But why are you complaining about TER combing the profiles when as the second link below show you were calling for a National Data Base for traveling / touring K-dolls. Make up you mind

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=1491&boardID=113&page=1#1491

The issue is really TER because they are inconsistent in their response to problem reports . While one is open to reporting "problems " regular rejections to legitimate reports that persist. I had 3 or 4 denied last week.

It is interesting that the blacklisted, outcast village idiot is praising the talents of someone he has not seen , know nothing about will never see. & more than likely never heard of before.

Posted By: xnyong

I think she wanted a different profile because she is offering different service out here. She was also none too happy about changes made to her profiles. Since when does TER change what's on someone's profile based on a single review. I've been trying to change certain things back on her behalf, but TER wants to hear directly from the lady. You know that's not going to happen. TER's MO is certainly incompatible in many ways with how these girls work.

Exaggerated reviews can create unreasonable expectations upon future clients and inevitable disappointment when she is unable or unwilling to perform those services mentioned. OTOH, guys who make up fake uninspiring reviews for VIP weeks are just as bad.

yon 53 Reviews 943 reads

posted 13 years ago

8 / 20

Whose complaining about combining profile?

I'm not complaining about combining profiles. I am all for unified profiles for all the providers. If your are referring to my other post below, I was just agreeing with Rodger that TER seems to be inconsistent in what profiles they merge.

The lady is unhappy with combined profile for her own personal reasons. What I complained about was the inaccurate changes made to her original profile which was more or less correct. What I gathered from my reading was that it's really difficult to change the original profile for any provider, but in this case, so many changes were made like magic. How does one change from

two girl action: No -> Really Bi-sexual
tattoos: None -> One
cum in mouth: Yes - spits -> Yes - swallows

From what I understand, you have to provide proof, or be the actual provider to make these changes. So how did it happen?

Harpman60 916 reads

posted 13 years ago

9 / 20

Once again you are clueless .We are not talking about experiences

ut facts not your or my opinion .i did not ask you to agree with me. I suggested that , rather than shoot your mouth like a loose cannon , you instead, study and familiarize your self with TER rules , procedures , guidelines on membership, reviews, posting , shilling, advertising , grievances etc. You should have done that at the time you joined TER in April and not wait till you embarrass yourself or have me remind you.

I don't read reviews but I know whoever wrote Sira first review established a new profile .Unless she changed it since then Choco's first reviewer established the original profile just as the Sira's first reviewer established that profile.that is how it is on TER , the provider has the option & right to challenge a reviewer. When the two were combined in the event of discrepancies the new profile prevails. What is difficult to understand about that ?

Does Choco know that more than likely your post & those of a few others confirming that Sira is Choco may have drawn TER's attention to her dual profiles. I suggest you let her know.

In LA , where more K-girl reside than anywhere else and where they are the dominant constituency , most long term K-dolls & Divas and all the bookers have TER accounts, understand the system and can deal with TER if they have a grievance .English language is not an issue . Anyone authorized can contact TER. Only stipulation is the transfer from regular or paid VIP membership to free Provider membership. This applies to all providers who have reviews on TER . Love it or hate it you learn to live with it. Providers are not required to be members but if they want to have oversight over their profiles or reviews they join. Seems reasonable to me.

Your experience and how many years you have been hobbying are as irrelevant as how many times you wank a day. Nothing. It is all about TER rules and guideline.

I am sure that there are K-girls all over the country but K-Dolls & K-Divas ? Are you sure ? You can find out the answer if you do a search for the terms on TER LA DB.

Posted By: xnyong

I'm speaking from my experience which may differ from yours. If everyone agreed with you, why would we need a forum to post? My membership in TER may be new, but I have been seeing K-girls for a long, long time, perhaps longer than you, and I am writing from my point of view. Choco asked me what was going on and I am just trying my best to help. Even though she has over a 100 reviews, she does not have an account with TER. I gave her the info TER Support wanted and she does not know how to approach TER to correct the mistake. She certainly does not want to give them her true ID. My experience with traveling K-girls has been almost completely in line with that. Most don't speak or write well enough to speak up to contradict fake reviews. It's easier for them to change their name for their next visit.

As far as changing a profile once it's been established, I know how difficult that can be. I've put in plenty of trouble tickets in my short stay at TER. That's why I was amazed that one reviewer could change the original profile in so many ways with his single review.

Posted By: Harpman60

We may also want to grow wings to fly but can we ? There are rules, procedures, , process to follow on creating a profile. There are also guidelines and means to change a profile once its established by the first reviewer. The highly respected RH is a loyal friend of Choco and if she need advise he will oblige.

There are legitimate ( eg family, old boss ,stalker) reasons why a provider wishes or needs to change name . There are also devious reasons ( bad reviews, scammer) as well. The same applies for a touring provider irrespective if she is local, domestic or international.t

In the case of returning previous 90-day wonder K-dolls many return as independents whose previous name belongs to the agency & need a new name . it takes the first review to create a "permanent " profile. Reviewers who follow are stuck with the initial profile created by the first reviewer , including services & as far as I know a provider has to contact TER to change her profile provided she is a member or becomes a provider member.

Choco , for whatever, reasons changed her name yet used the same pics as in LA. It was a matter of time before somebody figured it out .
Despite your protestation here , you were among those who posted (first link below ) on the DC board that Sira was Choco from LA. Her LA ad and TER profiles /reviews were also posted. It not surprising TER combined / updated the profile.

If there are inconsistencies Choco or a representative can contact TER.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=255362&boardID=6&page=#255362

But why are you complaining about TER combing the profiles when as the second link below show you were calling for a National Data Base for traveling / touring K-dolls. Make up you mind

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=1491&boardID=113&page=1#1491

The issue is really TER because they are inconsistent in their response to problem reports . While one is open to reporting "problems " regular rejections to legitimate reports that persist. I had 3 or 4 denied last week.

It is interesting that the blacklisted, outcast village idiot is praising the talents of someone he has not seen , know nothing about will never see. & more than likely never heard of before.

Posted By: xnyong

I think she wanted a different profile because she is offering different service out here. She was also none too happy about changes made to her profiles. Since when does TER change what's on someone's profile based on a single review. I've been trying to change certain things back on her behalf, but TER wants to hear directly from the lady. You know that's not going to happen. TER's MO is certainly incompatible in many ways with how these girls work.

Exaggerated reviews can create unreasonable expectations upon future clients and inevitable disappointment when she is unable or unwilling to perform those services mentioned. OTOH, guys who make up fake uninspiring reviews for VIP weeks are just as bad.

Harpman60 903 reads

posted 13 years ago

10 / 20

I think it would

Be redundant to say more than I have already said about this other than I suggest you step back and let her & S deal with it. If she need additional help RH has the experience and wisdom to help out if she needs someone.

Posted By: xnyong

I'm not complaining about combining profiles. I am all for unified profiles for all the providers. If your are referring to my other post below, I was just agreeing with Rodger that TER seems to be inconsistent in what profiles they merge.

The lady is unhappy with combined profile for her own personal reasons. What I complained about was the inaccurate changes made to her original profile which was more or less correct. What I gathered from my reading was that it's really difficult to change the original profile for any provider, but in this case, so many changes were made like magic. How does one change from

two girl action: No -> Really Bi-sexual
tattoos: None -> One
cum in mouth: Yes - spits -> Yes - swallows

From what I understand, you have to provide proof, or be the actual provider to make these changes. So how did it happen?

-- Modified on 9/9/2013 4:10:04 PM

yon 53 Reviews 873 reads

posted 13 years ago

11 / 20

You should take your advice

I suggest you do the same. I'm quite familar with those rules. I was the original reviewer who established Sira's profile in DC. I read Choco's original profile in LA. When they were combined someone decided to add things that were not in either profile.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 901 reads

posted 13 years ago

12 / 20

You're right - once created, profiles are written in stone...

...They're very difficult to change. TER doesn't comb through the reviews to see whether a provider has different body specs or has added certain activities. They respond to problem reports indicating changes.

But problem reports have to be supported by proof. It's not enough to say: "She performed _________ on me" or "She had this body feature." You have to have even more proof when over 100 reviewers have not reported the same thing as one lone reviewer. It's very strange.

Harpman60 856 reads

posted 13 years ago

13 / 20

Who is the someone who decided

to add things that were not in either profile? TER did the combining , the have nearly one million review why would they want to alter one? Make sense. Still within the system there is a process in place for the provider to ask for changes especially if they are service related.

Two questions , would Choco still have 2 profiles if you and your buddies did not out her? Secondly given your stated views and since you claim to to know TER's rules & regulation why did you not submit a problem repost since you knew its one profile per lady

Let me know when you discover who qualifies as a K-doll or K-Diva .

Posted By: xnyong

I suggest you do the same. I'm quite familar with those rules. I was the original reviewer who established Sira's profile in DC. I read Choco's original profile in LA. When they were combined someone decided to add things that were not in either profile.

-- Modified on 9/9/2013 7:10:03 PM

yon 53 Reviews 845 reads

posted 13 years ago

14 / 20

Have no clue as to who made the change

I have no idea who altered the profile. I just know that when I submitted a problem report, I was told by TER Support that one review was submitted that corroborated the change. Although there is a system in place for providers to make change, I was just pointing out that vast majority of K-girl providers either can't, don't, or won't.

I have long since given up on single unified profile per provider nationwide with current TER limitations (no more than 2 cities per provider), which is why I was proposing some other private database. Instead, what I strive for now is one profile per provider in a single region.

Posted By: Harpman60

to add things that were not in either profile? TER did the combining , the have nearly one million review why would they want to alter one? Make sense. Still within the system there is a process in place for the provider to ask for changes especially if they are service related.

Two questions , would Choco still have 2 profiles if you and your buddies did not out her? Secondly given your stated views and since you claim to to know TER's rules & regulation why did you not submit a problem repost since you knew its one profile per lady

Let me know when you discover who qualifies as a K-doll or K-Diva .

Posted By: xnyong

I suggest you do the same. I'm quite familar with those rules. I was the original reviewer who established Sira's profile in DC. I read Choco's original profile in LA. When they were combined someone decided to add things that were not in either profile.

-- Modified on 9/9/2013 7:10:03 PM

-- Modified on 9/9/2013 11:04:47 PM

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 939 reads

posted 13 years ago

15 / 20

Harpman just "outed" himself as to where his...

...loyalties lie. In his post, Harpman considers the combining of Choco's and Sira's profiles to be "outing" her. His loyalties are with the K-girls, not his K-bros. He'd rather see the same K-girl be deceptive and have two profiles with two names rather than helping his K-bros have more info in order to be able to hobby safely.

Sira may have only had a couple of reviews in DC so guys were not sure about her. However, when her Choco reviews are combined, K-boys have the benefit of over 100 reviews, thus assuring hobbyists of her legitimacy.

Harpman is also delusionally paranoid. He writes about a conspiracy between 'xnyong' and "his buddies" to out Choco? Who are these "buddies" of xnyong? Doesn't even one of you cowardly lemmings have the balls to call Harpman out when he posts stuff like this? You all let him say anything he wants without proof and you never disagree with him. For a change, think for yourselves!!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 993 reads

posted 13 years ago

16 / 20

Harpman says: "I don't read reviews." He also doesn't write...

...reviews. So what the hell is he doing on TER other than pulling the strings of all the little K-puppets!

Rodgerdaily 47 Reviews 877 reads

posted 13 years ago

17 / 20

Harpman is a friend to all decent hobbiests and girls...

What does he do? He tries to help legitimate noobs to the scene. Thats a bro.

He fights against racism and doublestandards. Thats a decent person.

He tries to help girls find good matches, and I suspect helps to protect girls by exposing predators and people who would cause them harm.

Most kfans know this about Harpman, even those klovers who arent his friends. There may be disagreements over how we keep each other safe and help to enjoy this hobby, the proof is how many guys come to Harpman's defense.

How many different people side with you and come to your defense Bigpapasan when you attack Harpman?

..... Its ok we get it. You like being alone. Thats cool man.

mqueensland 18 Reviews 839 reads

posted 13 years ago

18 / 20

Re: Harpman is a friend to all decent hobbiests and girls...

Quite right.

Harpman rocks.

He has helped me out many times and never been wrong.

The rest of you love to believe you're right. Open your eyes.

Posted By: Rodgerdaily

What does he do? He tries to help legitimate noobs to the scene. Thats a bro.

He fights against racism and doublestandards. Thats a decent person.

He tries to help girls find good matches, and I suspect helps to protect girls by exposing predators and people who would cause them harm.

Most kfans know this about Harpman, even those klovers who arent his friends. There may be disagreements over how we keep each other safe and help to enjoy this hobby, the proof is how many guys come to Harpman's defense.

How many different people side with you and come to your defense Bigpapasan when you attack Harpman?

..... Its ok we get it. You like being alone. Thats cool man.

GhostWriteroftheDamned 846 reads

posted 13 years ago

19 / 20

I can't imgine why not! I'm sure "support" can read plain English.

Posted By: xnyong

TER wants to hear directly from the lady. You know that's not going to happen

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 894 reads

posted 13 years ago

20 / 20

UPDATE. Choco was in LA for 3 years. She had many good...

...reviews and was well-liked, the ATF of more than one hobbyist.

Then she abruptly moves to the D.C. area and changes her name twice within less than three months. This is totally out of character compared to the last three years in L.A. It doesn't seem right.