K-girls

We all recognize these fallacies in others
useyrhead 4 Reviews 1260 reads
posted
1 / 19

Here is a great, and funny, overview of quite a few of the most commonly used fallacies. It’s only 8 minutes long, amazingly.

 
I highly recommend it. Almost every one of the most obnoxious arguments we all see on the internet use fallacies heavily. So, recognizing them can help us all to avoid those pointless and endless discussions.

 
Even if you don’t want to avoid pointless and endless arguments, this video is pretty entertaining. Enjoy.

impposter 49 Reviews 99 reads
posted
2 / 19

Not quite sure what your post has to do with K-girl (cf., General Discussion), but there is are obvious followup questions: DOES SHE PROVIDE?  DOES SHE HAVE REVIEWS?

Posted By: useyrhead

Here is a great, and funny, overview of quite a few of the most commonly used fallacies. It’s only 8 minutes long, amazingly.  
   
   
 I highly recommend it. Almost every one of the most obnoxious arguments we all see on the internet use fallacies heavily. So, recognizing them can help us all to avoid those pointless and endless discussions.  
   
   
 Even if you don’t want to avoid pointless and endless arguments, this video is pretty entertaining. Enjoy.

GaGambler 118 reads
posted
3 / 19

Now if we could only admit to them when we use them ourselves.

 
And "avoiding" pointless and endless arguments on a board like this one is one thing. You can simply choose NOT to participate in them, but trying to actually end them is an effort in futility. It's about as pointless as trying to get Rocket to side with a k-org on ANYTHING or getting CDL to write a 5-5 review. lol

useyrhead 4 Reviews 97 reads
posted
4 / 19

We have many kgirl specific discussion that go way left of center. And far more than a few of these fall apart because some person(s) is(are) using fallacies (sometimes quite heavily) in their arguments.

 
My goal? Spending more time talking about getting laid by kgirls and less time arguing.  

 
Thus the reason for pointing out how to quickly recognize fallacies. That way we can simply ignore the arguments that are based on them and get back to talking about things that will improve our ability to have great experiences.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 103 reads
posted
5 / 19

Not sure you’ve noticed, but I’ve had him on Ignore for at least a few weeks. I reply only to interesting comments from others now. I leave it to others to attempt to dream the impossible dream of ending those fruitless discussions.

 
My goal here is simply to help people to realize when someone is trying to rope them into another endless argument so they can simply turn aside and spend time on more important things.  

 
Like seeing a hot kgirl.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 88 reads
posted
6 / 19

I'm sure someone is reading with some popcorn to munch.

 
But perhaps I should at least make an attempt. Koreans seem to like the phrase 우리나라 (to mean Korea -- means our country) and 우리말 (or at least use that in another expression for true Korean words). Well most of us cannot say something like that unless we want to either confuse people or look a bit odd probably. HOWEVER....

 
I think we can say something like 우리여자 to mean K-Girl ;-) Now at least someone can be happy we're talking about K-Girls lol

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useyrhead 4 Reviews 94 reads
posted
7 / 19

Hopefully you’re not using amusing as a euphemism for annoying. Cause amusing is a vast improvement over many discussions we’ve seen.  

 
At least half the reason I posted this was for the sake of amusement. Maybe it’s just me. But I found this video on fallacies to be fun, funny and enlightening. I mean, sure, I know most of these. But she summed them up so well I thought it was really cool. You should see her videos on fight scenes in movies. Great stuff.  

 
And if, after watching this, even one person is able to recognize a fallacy they might not have otherwise and walk away rather than engage. And then, of course, share some info on kgirls or just participate in that conversation, that would be a total win.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 92 reads
posted
8 / 19

below average in looks AND below average in service for me, in order to get me to a 5 for looks it would have to be a girl who is not only ugly, but has some kind of physical deformity like a hunchback, missing a boob, an eye patch, an artificial leg, or is a Korean dwarf.  A 5 for service would mean she did one of the following . . . . cut my dick with her teeth on the blowjob, she DT'd me, gagged and threw up on my balls, her pussy smelled like the sour dough counter at the bakery, or soiled the bed when she O'd, etc.   None of these have ever happened, so that's why I don't have any 5-5 reviews.   I don't really see this happening in the future either because a proper screening will eliminate a girl that fits this description.  7 is below average.   The degree of below average doesn't matter.  If I give her a 7 for looks OR service, see her at your own risk.

impposter 49 Reviews 92 reads
posted
9 / 19

Posted By: useyrhead
Re: K-Girl?
We have many [...] discussion[s] that go way left of center. And far more than a few of these fall apart because some person(s) is(are) using fallacies (sometimes quite heavily) in their arguments.
The K-Girl board doesn't have a monopoly on going off topic or using poor argument skills. That is, in the forensic / debate / convince others of your position sense of argument skills. "An argument is a collective series of statements to establish a definite proposition."  Unfortunately, some consider "You're a dumbass!" "No, YOU'RE a dumbass!" to be good argument skills.
Thus the reason for pointing out how to quickly recognize fallacies. That way we can simply ignore the arguments that are based on them and get back to talking about things that will improve our ability to have great experiences.
I agree except to point out that the K-Girl board is not unique in that regard.  

EDIT: Changed bad image link to a working one.

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36363jensen 4 Reviews 95 reads
posted
10 / 19

Yes, I found the presentation lighthearted and accurate. I kept trying to remember if it was Lady Macbeth or Ophieia that the presentation reminded me of.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 103 reads
posted
11 / 19

Haha.

 
While it is rare, I do side with orgs on few things.

 
Safety/screening is definitely something I won't question. You won't see my complain about wanting DL or paystub. It's for safety, and even tho I can't do that, I understand and respect the decision.  

 
I also think if a monger is late, especially with no warning, they have the right to be pissed or even BL you.

Obviously, I also stand with them against any guys who are rough or abusive to the girls.  

 
And I do appreciate them when they are transparent. Which is rare, but it happens. With some of them more than others.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 98 reads
posted
12 / 19

Your post strongly reminded me of the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch.

 
And, you and Gaga are right, the majority of those arguments were simply reenactments of the Argument Clinic.

 
Well done.

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useyrhead 4 Reviews 94 reads
posted
13 / 19

We do completely differ in our our approach to numeric ratings. But you are clear and consistent about your own rules, especially the detailed notes section, and that makes your individual reviews continue to prove valuable, even if those rules don’t align with those followed by others.

 
The problem is, I think, that there really is no consistent set of rules that every monger follows when writing reviews. I’ve seen many efforts at improving review consistency. Some more effective than others.

 
But I’ve never seen anyone truly succeed at getting everyone to adopt a consistent set of review rules.  

 
It’s like those many tv show and movie review sites. Some people simply give any show they liked a 10 out of 10. And if they didn’t like it they give it a 1. Everything in between ends up becoming a no mans land. So, the actual scores lose much of their meaning. And you end up having to read a bunch of reviews and just ignoring the scores. Just like here.

 
So, ultimately, just as you recommend, anyone who actually tries to use TER reviews ends up ignoring the numbers to a significant extent and paying much more attention to the detailed notes on each girl.  And then following up with DMs to mongers who have recently seen the girl. The next step is to just go ahead and see the girl as long as there aren’t too many red flags. Though, for some reason, there are quite a few guys who want far more certainty out of review analysis then can be reasonably expected. And, sadly, they never take the chance to find out if the girl can provide a great experience for them or not.

 
I think they call it analysis paralysis. We need a clever name for analysis paralysis in the kgirl community.

impposter 49 Reviews 108 reads
posted
14 / 19

I titled my "Related Link: You're a dumbass! No, YOU'RE a dumbass." but it links to the exact same Monty Python Argument Clinic youtube that you posted.  My quote "An argument is a collective series of statements to establish a definite proposition." is from that skit, too.  
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Not a sin. Repetition is a form of argument that can be used to reiterate and emphasize a point ... on K-Girl and other boards, as well.

Posted By: useyrhead
Re: The Argument Clinic
Your post strongly reminded me of the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch.  
   
 And, you and Gaga are right, the majority of those arguments were simply reenactments of the Argument Clinic.  
   
 Well done.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 105 reads
posted
15 / 19

My bad. I thought the hyperlink was to the picture you posted. So I didn’t click on it. That was clearly a mistake on my part.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 98 reads
posted
16 / 19

This is a good list. I went and decided to list each fallacy that has been used against me or some others in this very forum discussing kgirls, reviews of kgirls, kgirl advertisement and the (in my opinion) vastly and unfairly inequal relationship between clients and sellers of kgirls.

In order they are in the video:

 
Fallacy of composition: I think we are all guilty of this one tbh. All our understanding of the kgirls stem from mostly our invidiual experiences and experiences of those who are fairly close to us and whom we can trust.

Same goes for hasty generalizations.  

 

Tu quoque - extremely overused here. I've had my credibility questioned many times on this forum only because I've dared to question the hivemind thinking. Had my number of reviews questioned, my experience questioned, and so on only because I've dared to outline a viewpoint that is vastly different from others on here. I've also seen it used against others.  

 
Ad hominem - as tu quoque is a subdivision of ad hominem attack, ad hominem was also used a lot. And many times against others.  

 
Genetic fallacy - definitely had that as well. To be fair, probably on both sides.

 
Appeal to emotion - lol, this is a board about working girls, can't have one without those. "You can't view service they sell as a service because theyre human beings!" Yeah alright Victor Hugo, wipe those crocodile tears off as you're fucking that girl and writing this on a review site.  

 

Appeal to popularity - along with tu quoque, one of the most popular one. You aren't with majority, hence you must be wrong. No one's defending your point, so you must be wrong. Because you had less success rate than us you're less credible. Hear yourself here? I hope you do.  

 

Appeal to tradition - people have been advertising fake pics for years! Therefore it's OK! Tell me if you've heard that one before. One of most egregiously bad fallacies.  

 
Appeal to ignorance - heard that one in the very beginning when someone was claiming fake reviews from orgs don't exist. That one didn't take long to sto being used tho.  

 
Equivocation - Pretty sure we just had a monger's rights thread,which had the definiton of rights in sense of the law instead of any other meaning.  

 
Middle ground- used many times to try to say that there somehow aren't points in situations  in which you have to side either with the provider or the monger

 

Moving the goalposts - orgs make fake reviews I said, I was told show me an example. I showed the example and now they said, show me an example of a reputable org in LA doing a fake review. Didn't mention that before,did you?  

 
Correlation VS causation - mentioning boycott on forums makes the prices rise! It must be true!  

 
Personal incredulity - well its hard for you to believe that some PO BL mongers for walking, so you're not going to. Great.  

 
The fallacy fallacy - well, duh. Why do you think this thread was made?  

 
Thanks for watching, er, reading!

Floorhump422 25 Reviews 101 reads
posted
17 / 19

Nice, detailed response. I feel like a lot of these fallacies would be less of an issue if people stayed on topic and took discussions less personally. Your identity doesn't have to be tied to this forum lol. At times, it seems as though dissenting is considered a personal attack rather than a response based on differing personal experiences.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 94 reads
posted
18 / 19

Agreed, I'm guilty of that as well.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 106 reads
posted
19 / 19



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