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mufftime 270 Reviews 3723 reads
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1 / 69

Without mentioning any names, I noticed recently that a very popular
and very pretty K-girl with over a year's worth of stellar reviews, suddenly
got about as low a review and score as I have ever seen on a K-girl
review.  
I think we all know who I'm talking about.  
I am not only going by the reviews of others but my own
personal experience. She is as pretty, if not prettier, as any other girl  
out there and her service is the epitome of a GFE. So how does this
happen? How do you go from primarily 8's and 9's to a score so low
that it begs credibility? Now I know that not everyone receives or perceives
performance as others may  but this wasn't even close to reality. In a case like
this when a review is as different as can be in relation to over 60 other reviews
it makes one wonder. Is it the customer or the provider. There's one simple
answer to that question and we all know what it is.  
The customer is  NOT always right.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 631 reads
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2 / 69

That are more than 2 points below a girl's TER average. No way to know the reason. Often retaliatory.  

With that said, I heard through the grapevine in this particular case that the guy was drunk, kind of abusive, and tried to force BBFS on her, so she ended the session early.  Not sure if its accurate, because I heard it from another hobbyist that knows her, but it seems consistent with the reviewer saying he was rushed, which would be HIS perspective on leaving early.  

To answer your question about the customer being right,   I have come to realize that the only time I am right as a customer is if I AGREE with the provider.  If I disagree, then she is right and I'm wrong.  It all comes down to, "Its her pussy, so its her rules."

-- Modified on 4/5/2017 11:31:53 PM

teonada 23 Reviews 531 reads
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3 / 69

I tried searching, but didn't find the person.

Sounds like something went wrong. I avoid blaming the woman.  

Maybe the guy was a douche. As the legendary Annie JP ad once said, "You be douche, I be bitch.

Did you consider messaging that person about their review? Maybe they can reconsider and submit an edit.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 440 reads
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5 / 69

In most cases, the review is fake, and the review was retaliation because the gal refused to see the person for one reason or another.    

Some have tried to get TER to take them down, but the odds favor that TER will keep it.

In some cases, the people did meet, and the chemistry was awful.  Shit happens.

mlace69 10 Reviews 484 reads
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6 / 69

I completely agree.  When I see 8+'s and then someone gives like a 5 or 6, to me, tells me someone was 'butthurt' and it was not the companion.  

However, I do struggle in giving reviews to be honest. So, I stopped entirely.  Partly, because if I found someone a 'meh' ... and 'meh' would be around a 6-7 in looks and maybe 6-7 in performance, I would not leave one.  Especially if previous reviews were all around 8+'s.  I figured maybe I would be an outlier, etc.  

But, at same time - am wondering if people are being overly generous.  Some, I think do so to try and gain favor, for whatever reason.  Others, I simply think they never take their beer goggles off.  For me at least, I would say around 25% of the girls that have consistent 8+'s ... would be around 7's if I was to score them based on 'my' opinion.  

For example, some of the well-known ones around me - I would score a 7 - not 9's in looks.  No way ... no how.  But, each to their own, and, I am grateful for the opportunity to meet. So, I just avoid putting out those reviews.  How do some of you handle it?  Do you think it undermines the value of reviews then if not everyone leaves one?

mufftime 270 Reviews 463 reads
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7 / 69

Not drunk but close to that. Not a BB issue either.
I just wanted him to know that we know the story
and a shit review like that is not deserved by even
the worst k-girl experience which is never that bad.
Maybe he'll  learn something.

mufftime 270 Reviews 425 reads
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8 / 69

It was a real review by someone who saw her but
the cause of the problem was him. As I said the  
customer isn't always right. Not by a longshot in
this instance.

mufftime 270 Reviews 509 reads
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9 / 69

This  wasn't even close to a "meh". It was a review number  
that is unheard of when it comes to a K-girl especially one
with stellar reviews. There was an issue but the issue was
all him. No ifs, ands or buts.  
(not butts, of which she has one of the nicest ones)

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 471 reads
posted
11 / 69

He said there was also a hygiene issue.  The guy smelled bad and wouldn't take a shower.  He still insists the guy tried to put it in bare over her objection but luckily, couldn't get enough wood.  Probably the booze.  When I saw her a year ago she struck me as a very safe girl.  Maybe she's not telling EVERYONE everything.  Sometimes, they don't even tell the booker if they think they have handled or diffused the situation.   That's happened to me many times with girls that I'm not personally involved with on the outside.  I get the spin and not the real story.  

theoldcavalier 2 Reviews 365 reads
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12 / 69

Not just providers--cars, restaurants, you name it. Unless I start seeing a pattern--all the reviews after such-and-such time going south, or some particular issue showing up more than a time or two--I don't worry about it.

mufftime 270 Reviews 557 reads
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13 / 69

WEED.
 And in this case the booker knows.
Got the same info from both.
Even got donation back.
Just a dick.

mufftime 270 Reviews 487 reads
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14 / 69

Just exposing the douche.
If I didn't know the whole story there  
would be no need to bother.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 550 reads
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15 / 69

Will defer since my source is another hobbyist.  The good guys here should throw her some business. I will.

teonada 23 Reviews 480 reads
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16 / 69
Jensen36363 58 Reviews 521 reads
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17 / 69

As already mentioned it smarter to largely ignore the outliers. I also always look at the reviewer's history. Sometimes what looks like a bad review is actually okay once you understand the base for the comparison.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 489 reads
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18 / 69

In fact I'd say any customer is almost never right except in two areas. 1) Stating their needs and 2) picking the vendor that can and will best meet those needs. But the customer is often wrong in both cases.  A good supplier will know they need to be detectives to figure out what the customer is really looking for and then decide if their product/service will satisfy that demand.

As you see, I'm not even limiting this to the hobby.

HiddenSecretID 410 reads
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20 / 69

In many occasions, when a girl has consistent 8+ 9+, I would see her with out hestitation. However, for me that girl is just a 7. I go base on looks alone, yes I don't care about performance or service. Sometimes I went in with out expectation, but was blown away on how beautiful the girl looks even though she has a 7. Another occasion the girl looks like she is on her 30~Almost 40, but our brothers gave her a 9+Review, not sure what is going on here.

-- Modified on 4/6/2017 12:32:24 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 521 reads
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21 / 69

he's being blacklisted as well?  That's really the only way to deal with it, and it sets the bar for other guys to know where the threshold is for blacklisting if they treat a girl disrespectfully.  As long as bookers don't want to use the nuclear option of blacklisting then more guys will take their chances on treating girls badly.  I would prefer to see each blacklisting story publicized here so that the dickwads get it.  

Billy D 65 Reviews 438 reads
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22 / 69

Don't be slagging on 420. It's old Billy's individual mood enhancer! It really heightens my middle-aged senses.

Cheers,
BD

mufftime 270 Reviews 480 reads
posted
23 / 69

Not in this case. It was a hit piece and the problem
was caused by him.  When a consistent 8 or 9 girl  
gets a 2 you know the reason.

mufftime 270 Reviews 410 reads
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24 / 69

That's why they have two categories. Looks and performance.
I hear you. Everyone has their own desires and expectations
and one man's 7 may be another man's 9. That being said,
going from 7, 8 or 9 or even 6 to a 2 is unheard of in K-girl
land from any of the reputable agencies. Haven't seen that
kind of discrepancy in almost ten years.

mufftime 270 Reviews 503 reads
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25 / 69

No one would be sorry throwing business her way.
She puts the GF in the GFE and gorgeous too.
Usually they don't look as good as their pics but
in Ava's case she looks much better. Last time I  
saw her she didn't get a chance to dry her hair and
she reminded me of Bo Derek  coming out of the water
in the movie "10".

mufftime 270 Reviews 511 reads
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26 / 69

I'm sure he's been blacklisted but the problem is  more than
one handle and that keeps them alive and lurking.

mufftime 270 Reviews 515 reads
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27 / 69

That just indicates how badly she wanted to
get  rid of him and wasn't trying to take advantage
and keep the money.  
He was grossing her out and
making her sick.
You know the old saying "you couldn't pay me to fuck her"
well I guess (you couldn't pay her to fuck him).
I hope he's reading this and maybe learning something.

mufftime 270 Reviews 433 reads
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28 / 69

Unfortunately some people get sick from the smell
so if you want to see her and enjoy her service I  
suggest not taking a toke on that day.  :>)
Just something to consider.
When I show up to an appointment I make sure I
smell like a garden of roses ready to be deflowered.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 421 reads
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29 / 69

TER will have a way to sort out the guys with more than one handle and sanction them somehow.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 356 reads
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30 / 69

show up smelling like a garden of roses that was recently fertilized.  Lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 449 reads
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31 / 69

dating yourself with the Bo Derek reference.  Lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 439 reads
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32 / 69

back at 30-40 yo rather than forward, they will look a lot hotter to you.  Trust me!!

Remember there are two groups of hobbyists here, the under 30 and the over 40 groups.  Most guys in their 30's can get laid without paying.  At least I could.  So the perspective on looks will be viewed differently through older eyes than through younger ones.

my-0.02-cents 469 reads
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33 / 69

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
he's being blacklisted as well?  That's really the only way to deal with it, and it sets the bar for other guys to know where the threshold is for blacklisting if they treat a girl disrespectfully.  As long as bookers don't want to use the nuclear option of blacklisting then more guys will take their chances on treating girls badly.  I would prefer to see each blacklisting story publicized here so that the dickwads get it.  
Agree 100% with you CDL

Blacklisting dBags like this will send a message to these bastards in a second. These bottom feeders are always trying to raise the threshold of what they can get away with and will only continue to get worse.

-- Modified on 4/6/2017 7:50:28 PM

dancebbq09 130 Reviews 547 reads
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34 / 69

As for this dude.  I dont know if you should be crucifying him.  Hell maybe hes telling the truth and the chick had a bad day and took it out on him.  Just because a chick has perfect reviews dont mean anything.  LA rating is overinflated and alot of guys dont leave bad reviewes even though the girl was a bitch that day or flat ugly.   Hell ive left a crappy review about a girl that had all 9a and 10s too.  Does that mean i was a lying sack of shit? Hell no she was just plain ugly and all the guys who left her hi marks had the typical white geezer blind disease and couldnt tell she was ugly.

So all im saying only ones who know the truth is the dude and the girl so both sides have equal right to be 'right'!

So says I DANCEBBQ09 the all kgirl knowing one!!!

mufftime 270 Reviews 563 reads
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35 / 69

I explained the situation earlier in this thread. She wasn't having a bad  
day before he came stinking of weed and made her sick. She happens to
be very accommodating. I got the same story from two sources. Her and
the  booker and CDL got a similar story from a third party which wasn't  
completely accurate but close. That being said in my experience a K-girl  
having a bad day would never drop from a 9 to a 2.  
Yes she couldn't give him any service which is the truth but through no fault  
of her own. He didn't mention that the smell made her  sick and that she gave  
back the donation. I'm crucifying him for not being honest and doing a hit piece.
If you tried to fuck a girl whose smell made you puke do you think you could do it?  
I know I couldn't. Can't puke and fuck in the same hour. Need at least a three hour break.
That's the puke rule.

mufftime 270 Reviews 478 reads
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36 / 69

I remember in my 20's a 35 year old was hot to me  
and still is. Actually they are in their sexual prime and
usually more skilled than the typical 22 year old.
IMHO.

teonada 23 Reviews 378 reads
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37 / 69
Billy D 65 Reviews 315 reads
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38 / 69

it's a very important part of my pre-appointment routine, right after the little blue pill and before a quick and gentle brushing of the old toofers, and mouthwash. I've never had a lady comment to me, and I've never been blackballed, so I must be doing it right.  

There are a couple of sativa strains that heighten friskiness and sensation for me, makes the whole experience that much better. I can't remember the last appointment I had prior to 420.

To each their own...happy hobbying!

Cheers,
BD

Ladmo 350 reads
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39 / 69

Me too! They were my preference in civie life when I was in my twenties and still are as I enter my mid-fifties. They know their bodies, they play a lot less games and their skills are off the charts.  

I have zero desire to see the girls that are (actually) 21-23. I gravitate to the girls that list their age in the 26- 30 range. (And yes, I know that that REALLY means 34-39.) These days they tend to be in much better shape than most of the 21-25 year-olds anyway. In fact, I just saw one an hour ago. :Do
Posted By: mufftime
I remember in my 20's a 35 year old was hot to me  
 and still is. Actually they are in their sexual prime and  
 usually more skilled than the typical 22 year old.  
 IMHO.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 367 reads
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41 / 69

With a girl under 30, but even when over 30, the ad still says 23. Lol

Billy D 65 Reviews 470 reads
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42 / 69

Typical white geezer? I resemble that remark ;-) but I don't think there is anything wrong with my eyesight or my taste. I'd be willing to bet if I compare reviews with you for ladies we have in common, our opinions would not be very far apart.

That being said, I wish they would break the scale into tenths of a point instead of whole points. There have been times when random number.5  would have been a more accurate assessment than the next higher number.0, but since that option is not available I round up instead of down.  

Just my $0.02 you racist bastard!

Kidding...😄

Cheers  
BD

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 451 reads
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43 / 69

Clearly but the question really wasn't just about this case but about unusual scores in general and it's not always the case the review was vindictive some are cases where the review is just a hard, but consistent, scorer.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 531 reads
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44 / 69

Well to dance's point -- that must have been a crowded room then with, what, about 5 people. No wonder someone was having a bad day.

That said, given the reputation I hear about the LA guys when the girls head east, I think I'll put more weight on the girls side of the balances.

HiddenSecretID 396 reads
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45 / 69

No offense. But we do have different taste lol,I might consider avoid seeing girl you reviewed lol. Joking lol I'm fine with 33 and under. 40+ pass.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 396 reads
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46 / 69

Your longevity and history in the hobby, you're on the wrong side on the one.  It makes it look like you're PUI this afternoon. Not your usual reasonable self.

mufftime 270 Reviews 439 reads
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47 / 69

Just so everyone knows most if not all the good and popular ones are over 30
and most the ads say 21-26.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
With a girl under 30, but even when over 30, the ad still says 23. Lol

mufftime 270 Reviews 458 reads
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48 / 69

Most people aren't bothered by that smell but in this case
it made her sick. If that were you I guess there may have
been the same reaction. Doesn't justify a hit piece like he posted.

mufftime 270 Reviews 432 reads
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49 / 69

The bottom line on all of this is that he was greeted into the apartment
and would have experienced what most of us have experienced if not
for the unplanned reaction to the smell that he brought in with him.
Wasn't any complaint about him. Just the smell of weed that made
her sick and she was apologetic and gave back the donation. For getting
sick you give a shit review? Not in my book and probably not in the  book
of most others here. If I see a girl that I am not particularly pleased with, and
that doesn't happen often, I just don't review her. Do I have to fuck with her
livelihood because of my personal and maybe out of the ordinary experience?

Prunes 465 reads
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50 / 69

Dude has reviewed a few TS providers, maybe he was so baked that he forgot he was seeing an actual woman.

HiddenSecretID 378 reads
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52 / 69

Thanks for the advice. Truly appreciated.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 417 reads
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54 / 69

If my experience was lower than a 7, I will not review her and will only discuss it by PM if I'm asked about her by name.

dantananot 12 Reviews 464 reads
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55 / 69

I could never do retail.  always amazed by these girls.  as weird as an ER

Posted By: mufftime
Without mentioning any names, I noticed recently that a very popular  
 and very pretty K-girl with over a year's worth of stellar reviews, suddenly  
 got about as low a review and score as I have ever seen on a K-girl  
 review.    
 I think we all know who I'm talking about.  
 I am not only going by the reviews of others but my own  
 personal experience. She is as pretty, if not prettier, as any other girl  
 out there and her service is the epitome of a GFE. So how does this  
 happen? How do you go from primarily 8's and 9's to a score so low  
 that it begs credibility? Now I know that not everyone receives or perceives  
 performance as others may  but this wasn't even close to reality. In a case like  
 this when a review is as different as can be in relation to over 60 other reviews  
 it makes one wonder. Is it the customer or the provider. There's one simple  
 answer to that question and we all know what it is.  
 The customer is  NOT always right.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 508 reads
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56 / 69

How many Kgirls I've met over the years that tell their bookers they don't want to see guys with TS reviews.  Their perception is that there is a higher risk of HIV transmission during homosexual acts.  I don't know if there's any science that backs that up, but that's what they think.

mufftime 270 Reviews 486 reads
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57 / 69

I guess you can apply the puke rule as did she.

Billy D 65 Reviews 371 reads
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58 / 69
mufftime 270 Reviews 361 reads
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59 / 69

I guess that was directed to those who remember.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
dating yourself with the Bo Derek reference.  Lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 319 reads
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60 / 69

and if you believe that, I've got bridge to sell.  Lol

dancebbq09 130 Reviews 447 reads
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61 / 69

Ive known lying bookers and kgirls plenty of times.   Sometimes clients are telling the truth.  Thats all.

dancebbq09 130 Reviews 240 reads
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62 / 69

Its a hard truth that nonkoreans..majority being white old guys^^ cant seem to tell a kgirls age or look.  They get kgirl pussy blind!  So somehow a ugly fat hippo looks like the gorgeous goddess EVa Longoria with C cup marshmellow boobs!

dancebbq09 130 Reviews 385 reads
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63 / 69
mufftime 270 Reviews 450 reads
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64 / 69

From a 9 to a 2? Let's get real. I know what she offers.
If he put a 6 this thread would not even have been
started.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 446 reads
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65 / 69

I may read the 10s and ignore the 6s or below. Reviews are only hints to me. In this case, I already saw her and knew she was sweet and very willing to please so I would not trust this reviewer.

Both parties have equal say but I always give the girl the benefit of the doubt. My experience with all Kgirls makes me think so. I feel sorry if she is not established yet. If I like her pics, I would want to see and review her.

When I read unusual reviews, it is for laugh. Like the pic below, I would probably think something just ain't right LOL. It just won't work, damn it! I am sorry man, better luck next time :-D

I am not heartless. I feel your pain, you unlucky bastard!

-- Modified on 4/8/2017 10:58:45 AM

ChefBoyardee 32 Reviews 416 reads
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66 / 69

I think I know who you guys are talking about, she has been on my TDL for awhile but never got around to her for some reason. I am changing that next week for sure.

mufftime 270 Reviews 474 reads
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67 / 69

My, my. That's painting with a broad brush stroke isn't it?

Posted By: dancebbq09
Its a hard truth that nonkoreans..majority being white old guys^^ cant seem to tell a kgirls age or look.  They get kgirl pussy blind!  So somehow a ugly fat hippo looks like the gorgeous goddess EVa Longoria with C cup marshmellow boobs!

mufftime 270 Reviews 320 reads
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68 / 69

As I said before he was telling the truth but omitting the details
of what made it the truth. Sure she didn't give him anything and
asked him to leave but the question begs. WHY. Why would she
or any other K-girl  who has a reputation for great service ask  
someone to leave and even return his donation. A little common  
sense in this case suggests that it is not the girl but hobbyist.
You can't always get what you want and that makes some get
vindictive.

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