I climbed over it. Not able to pole vault.
A recent thread on this board while I was out of town talked about the possibility of someone videotaping hobbyists going in and out of a Kgirl incall. I received the same PM's as others of you who are active on this board with the attempted scare tactics. I, for one, am not concerned, as I use a number of safety protocols to protect myself and the incall location when I am visiting a Kgirl. I have mentioned some of them before, but will put them up again for those that are new and may not realize their conduct is putting themselves, the incall locations, and other hobbyists at risk.
Parking - I never park in the garage of an apartment complex where the incall is located. Many of these garages use CCTV for the safety of the residents, but these cameras also record anyone lese who parks there. Its better to park on the street or a nearby shopping center.
Blending In - I always try to dress in a low-key manner similar to local residents that will not draw attention to myself. Bright colors or cutting-edge styles just draw attention to you. The same with flashy jewelry and watches. You should be plain so that people don't remember you being there.
Loitering - This is where most hobbyists, even experienced veterans, completely blow it. You can drive down the street past any of the well-known incall buildings and you will often see a guy hanging around the access keypad watching his cell phone. Could anything be more obvious? There seems to be a mentality about squeezing the full 60 minutes out of the hour that was booked even if it puts a hobbyist at risk. I don't get it. I often stay a block away from the entrance until I get the go-ahead from the booker. I note the access code and then PUT MY PHONE AWAY UNTIL I AM INSIDE THE BUILDING. I walk up to the keypad and enter the code, JUST LIKE A RESIDENT WOULD DO. Yes, I lose three or four minutes of my hour walking from a block away, but isn't it worth it to avoid drawing attention to yourself as a hobbyist? Loitering is the absolute best way to get noticed and draw attention to yourself, especially from nosey neighbors who may think you look suspicious just standing around watching your phone. Some may be tempted to follow you inside to make sure you're not up to no good. Its an unnecessary risk that you really don't need.
Once Inside - A few buildings have security cameras in the lobby, but rarely in the elevator. The elevator is where I glance at my phone again to get the apartment number if I don't already know it. I NEVER LET ANYONE SEE ME ENTER A PARTICULAR APARTMENT UNIT. If there is anyone else in the hallway, I will walk past the designated door and turn a corner, wait a few minutes until there is no one present, and then return to the correct apartment and ring for access.
This is the routine that I have been following for years, and it provides me a comfort level about my safety so that I can enjoy the session without worries. There may be other things that some of you do differently, and I invite you to share those also.
I think the key is to not get caught up about whether or not you're going to get your full hour with the girl. Perhaps it will only be 53 minutes, but if it keeps you safe, its just part of your overhead when hobbying.
A simple texted door code and apartment number before leaving
his car is probably too stupid to understand any safety protocols.
It's not brain surgery.
Waiting in your car until you receive the go-ahead from the booker. That's what I prefer in WLA where it is easier to park near the entrance(s). You will still lose a few minutes, but Mufftime's method is also a safer one than loitering around the keypad. Its clear he agrees that you keep your phone put away as you approach the entrance.
"....walk up to the keypad and enter the code, JUST LIKE A RESIDENT WOULD DO." Except that residents don't use the keypad, they use cards or fobs.
I jumped the back alley gate a couple of times some years ago at one of these WLA places when the keypad wasn't working. Pretty spry for an old guy. That was back when they didn't have a second inner gate blocking access to the hallway. Wonder if they caught me on camera and thus the installation of the secondary gate? First time the pad wasn't working there was another guy trying to get in at the same time. I'm pretty sure he was a noob. I just left and hit the back alley. Thought swinging by the front door to see if he was still there and letting him in, but didn't because you can only waste so many minutes getting to that (not magic) door.
Underestimate an old guy. Lol
Busted my ankle backpacking in Grand Canyon last October. Wasn't in that far so taped it up, left my pack, borrowed a trekking pole from a couple that was coming out and walked me the rest of the way. I was hobbying within a week on crutches and a splint, then crutches and cast, walking boot, 3 surgeries total and not quite to jump a gate again yet. I don't normally hang by the front door but some might have seen me sitting on the bench during my limited mobility period.
Here's another one: think I might have seen Mufftime walking up to the buzzer at 56xx a few months ago. How could I tell? Can't say for sure, but looked like a photo a girl showed me that he apparently sent her.
don't yet know you can trust NOT to share them is just plain crazy. Maybe he got bored sitting in the car waiting for the go-ahead, so he started sending photos to Kgirls? I wonder how many Kgirls have received his unsolicited photos? Must be a handsome devil . . . . in his opinion. Lol
Perhaps you have even seen me? I usually walk with a limp, but once inside with the girl, the "limp" is gone!
I climbed over it. Not able to pole vault.
...one time when the common misspelling really did apply!
Are you just plain stupid or what?
I don't even go to 56xx.
Good point, but many residents don't have the key fobs because they don't want to pay the extra security deposit to get them, especially "temporary" residents like the Kgirls working there. Having escorted many of them back to their incalls after an outside date, only saw one that had a keyfob. The rest enter the code, just like we do, and the roommate buzzes them in.
Or using the key pad as a guest would. DUH.
Past your bedtime. Sorry. I'll try to post earlier next time.
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...That's heresy! You are hereby ordered to immediately tear up your membership card in the K-fanboys United Club.
One other thing - When Leaving - Don't walk down the hall and out of the building with a bottle of water and a shit-eating grin. It's a dead giveaway.
take the water but plead guilty on the shit-eating grin.
If that doesnt put a red target your coming to see a hooker nothing will.
ut that's the beauty of big apt complexes.
you're hidden in plain sight. you don't know who's a resident, who's a guest, or who's a new resident who just doesn't know his way around the complex yet.
As soon as you're off the elevator, there are signs pointing out the way to groups of apartment numbers.
to knock on her neighbors' doors and let them know they may hear some screaming for the next hour, and not to worry because I'm really loud during sex.
The provider will love that you are so thoughtful towards her neighbors
Last neighbor's door I visited, I stood quietly in front of first, then did the one finger tap, before finally resorting to the bell. That finally caused the door to open. Unfortunately, the book had screwed up and texted the wrong room number. That was of course corrected and there was a happy ending.
Then there was the time it was the first day the outfit started working out of a new place in Little Tokyo and buzzer was set up. Booker, who was also a K-girl provider at various points. Came down and let me in. I get into the apartment and there's another girl in tank top and shorts and my girl in a bathrobe. Asian guy in uniform shirt, presumably a plumber is on his knees (not for that, he's working under the kitchen sink). He's probably wondering (or not) what this middle age to older white guy is doing in the apartment with three Korean girls. As I said in my review, another guy might have turned tail and run in that situation, but I stayed around to get some tail.
i usually give you the benefit of the doubt since your like some ancient old one.
but this one and the other post.... even bilbo baggins would be hard pressed to spun such tales!
a owner/hooker brings you into her incall with 2 other hookers sitting there and then in front of a civie plumber fixing her sink?
and the other post you jump over the fence like some 6 million dollar bionic man?
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It's easy to understand your skepticism, but most older guys that have been around awhile have a few anecdotal moments during their hobbying that are unforgettable and leave you thinking to yourself, "I can't believe I just did that!"
I'm dumb enough where I would have done it again within the last couple of weeks when a certain lady I visit regularly was having buzzer issues at the same complex. The inner gates prevent that from being an option now. Good thing, I don't need to be breaking my ankle again.
One of the three rules of getting older is, "Never waste an erection."
I assume "I generally have to go see a girl to get one" would be more like rule 4?
....You know, if you say it with a Japanese accent, it sounds like "erection."
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If she's still around and you're still in touch maybe she remembers and can verify - booker was ex Park Asian girl Angie who also work under Romi and maybe other names. Girl in bathrobe was named Nana at the time (not current Nana) and later went by Q.
Bionic man might have been able to jump the fence, but basic climbing maneuver is grab the top of the door, put one foot on the doorknob (actually, I think it's not a knob, but a key lock mechanism at that location) and just pull your self up and over. Scrapped my forearm on the stucco going over. And then down the hall to see Ruby from years back.
forget that roommates name...
but if its that Romi..she was nice. cool lady. really nice. told me stuff i don't think she should be telling me. anyway, i threw away her number. but i know where she lives. see her once in while since she always grocery shops across from her place. sort of annoying always have to hide since shes always with some whites dudes or one of her hooker friends.
hmm..hey do you have white hair and wear glasses? i saw her with a geezer few times
anyone over 40 is a "geezer." For me, a geezer is a guy over 80, so its all relative. I only know one hobbyist over 80, but he's still seeing about one girl a week.
I got glasses but not white hair. I think there's been more than one girl named Romi. The booker I was referencing went by Angie when working Park Asian. I don't think was around very long under the Romi name nothing special about the butt.
I've run into civilian plumbers on 2 separate occasions at different places here in Vegas..
Plumber just seemed to mind his own business and address his issue
What did we expect from anyone who
lives a fantasy life?
could only be there to sell insurance. If anyone asks, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
t with regard to the parking and being a discreet distance from the entrance, and not obviously waiting to go somewhere, resulting in the loss of a few minutes is not my experience.
I'm not knocking anything cdl said, sounds a lot like what I do. I've just never see that negatively impact the time. For me the clock seems to start when you get in the door and sometime the room and not when I get the okay to come up and the access code provided.
Is that how LA is? Or is it more just a misunderstanding and so mistaken fear that you need to be right at the entry when you get the call? If the former, well that sort of sucks to be in LA then ;-
More and more of the "90-day-wonders" are instructing their bookers to schedule appointments only 15 minutes apart as opposed to the traditional 30 minutes, the norm of just a few years ago. Consequently, many Kgirls are going to have you out the door as the clock strikes the hour, unless they know they have a break after you, which accounts for the occsional reviews that say the girl "went overtime." (A few years ago, 5 or 10 minutes overtime was fairly commonplace.) There can be a slight difference between the hour you book and the "hour" you get if you are not inside at the start of the booked hour, which I think explains the mentality of guys hovering around the entrance waiting for the starting gun to go off.
OC and SD are a little more relaxed, and most of the girls there take 30 minutes between appointments, so going over a little is no big deal. It is more common to get in a few minutes early and get a few extra minutes that way, especially for regulars with a particular girl, than to expect she will go past the booked hour to make up a late start. I try to text that I am parked about ten minutes before my time. If the girl is ready, I might get in five minutes early some of the time, other times not.
Also, several of the popular incall complexes in LA have multiple apartments operating, so there is also the issue of staggering the entry times for several hobbyists by a minute or so, so they avoid the awkwardness of a cattle call by all going in at once. This is why is often pays to text that you are ready about ten minutes before your appointed time. The flip side is that if you do it very much earlier than ten minutes before, sometimes the booker forgets about you while he/she deals with the other customers. I have had this happen on occasion in the past, especially when I was a relatively new customer with a particular booker.
and I don't remember it being more than 15 minutes between
appointments with newbies or experienced providers. It was
that way with LK, Silo, Wendy, etc.
Some start at 10 but the norm has been for years if they
get a full booking is 11:00, 12:15, 1:30 etc., etc. You usually get
the OK about 5 minutes before the appointment and if it is a little late
that time is always made up for.
Variations from girl to girl and I note that you and I do not see a lot of the same girls. I will concede that you may see more LA girls than I do even though I'm higher volume because I spread my Kgirl action between LA, OC, SD, and LV, plus a lot of my sessions are repeats. With that said, before I went out of town I saw a new popular girl a couple of times and had appointment times of 11:10 and 1:40. Does that mean there are some newer girls that are only allowing 10 minutes between customers? If that's the case, it hardly seems enough time for a proper clean up, which seems a little gross to me. Just my opinion.
some of my exes didnt even have customers before or after me but the bookers say no time and full..
the bookers do it to make the girl look popular...marketing startegy and girls do it when they want to rest...like with me before seeing another customer or to go out with some vip dude or if they have a regular but the dude is a pain in the ass so want him to get out after 1hr
are a pain in the ass? That seems a little odd. I just had one of my regulars yesterday tell me she recently had a guy "blocked" by the booker because he was becoming a pain in the ass. Many of my other past regulars have done the same with guys that are texting too much, stalking, pushing the menu, etc., so not sure why a girl would have a regular that she doesn't like. It sort of sounds a little whore-ish..
nice enough fellows but have irritating stuff for the girls. like one of my ex her regular gave her a headache cause yacked soo damn much. so always made sure had next appointment. to get his ass out. or another regular stunk like hell and sweated like a pig grossed my ex out but treated her nice...again she made sure to get rid of him after 1hr