The problem here rocket is that everyone knows that you're really not asking a simple question of one's opinion but that any response will lead to your drawing other conclusions and extending the dialogue into your framing of the larger situation.
As you've said you just want other's opinions why not just take what they say as their opinion and leave it at that? If you don't think they answered your question why keep making a big deal about it (other than from some TATTT standing) and constantly badgering people for the type of answer you want?
Like it or not, BB is getting popular and everywhere. not just BA , S CA area, been spreading to SEA, LAS, CHI, BOS, NYC, DMV, AUS, DAL, ATL......everywhere!
I was very curious from day 1, did those preferred BB also perform DATY? Since I couldn't understand how you enjoy DATY with girls offer BBFSCIP
Or there is way to block your thought of tasting previous client's.....
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Providers who claim to be "covered-only" offer bareback (PSE) services to certain individuals.
I used to love doing DATY to "covered-only" providers until I was offered PSE. I was having a hard time climaxing that day, and she suggested it was the condom's fault. After the session was over, I thought about all the other providers I went down on in the past. Ugh.
That said, I don't do PSE or DATY anymore.
...both times I got the first appointment of the day. So it feels a little better knowing that she is fresh and clean down there. But either way, most kgirls do a really good job cleaning themselves between sessions for the next guy.
If you think she's "fresh and clean down there" just because you're her first client of the day, please consider that she may well have a boyfriend who made a sperm donation "down there" before she came to work.
The whole idea that you get a "fresh and clean" girl by booking her first session is just another fantasy.
But by all means, dream on...
I shared an apartment in Ktown with a Kgirl when I was her real life boyfriend, and she was often too tired to fuck me at night after work, so we would mostly have morning sex on days she worked and we never used a condom. Then she would take a Korean taxi over to Sawtelle to work or else I would drop her off. I have always been amused by the guys who think being the FIRST customer of the day makes them ABSOLUTELY safe. However, because a low percentage of Kgirls have real life boyfriends, by playing the odds, it's really not a bad strategy but as you say, it's NOT foolproof.
Perhaps we need a resident gynecologist who could give an opinion as to how thoroughly these gals can clean themselves up after a CIP encounter. The internet is replete with different points of view, including health issues. All I know is that this is a subject I’ve never felt comfortable discussing with any of the females I know, escorts or otherwise.
about the cleanup after CIP, but it's a function of how much time they have between customers. Many girls will stay in the shower to clean up the inside after the customer has gone out to dry off. This is the best solution because they are still on the clock with the guy who CIP'd them. The problem comes when guys stay overtime and the next customer is on time. It's the innocent second customer that may get short-changed on the cleanup. I agree it's an awkward topic to discuss with the girls themselves, but sometimes THEY bring it up with their regulars. Many girls who allow BBFS do NOT allow CIP because of the cleanup issues. Many reviews support this when they say the guy pulled out and the finish was CIM, not CIP.
You say that as if you don't know "...how much time they have between customers." Yet two years ago you wrote "how much time they have between customers" and how that time between customers has been shortened over the years:
"...at the end of 2008, the standard break was 30 minutes. A girl had time to do all of the cleanup and prep between appointments and then rest for 15 minutes before the next appointment...Demand exploded from 2012 to 2014 and the bookers started pushing the girls to see more customers in a day so the break time was reduced to 15 minutes. Then I believe it was booker M in LA around 2016 who first started scheduling ten minute breaks."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/when-i-started-seeing-kgirls-----18565?page=
Also about two years ago, you also wrote a lengthy treatise how the break time of K-girls had evolved over the years:
"When I started 12 years ago in the Kgirl scene . . . .Back then, the standard break between customers was 30 minutes. It was not uncommon for girls to have a douche-bag setup hanging in the shower or under the sink. They had time for a proper cleanup after a "special" customer before seeing the next guy, who may NOT have been entitled to special services, but still deserves the respect of a hygienic and fresh pussy that has been cleaned out after the special customer made his deposit."
"Fast-forward to NOW . . . . .The standard break between customers now is most often 10 minutes. Show me a Kgirl that says she can do a complete cleaning after CIP, change the linen and clean up from the last customer while preparing for the next one within ten minutes, and I'll show you a liar."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/when-i-started-12-years-ago-in-the-kgirl-scene-----17664?page=
Let me repeat YOUR words again, CDL: "THE STANDARD BREAK BETWEEN CUSTOMERS NOW IS MOST OFTEN 10 MINUTES. SHOW ME A KGIRL THAT SAYS SHE CAN DO A COMPLETE CLEANING AFTER CIP, CHANGE THE LINEN AND CLEAN UP FROM THE LAST CUSTOMER WHILE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT ONE WITHIN TEN MINUTES, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LIAR."
Two years ago you were adamantly calling K-girls "LIARS" if they claimed they could do a complete cleaning in ten minutes after CIP but today you're a lot more wishy-washy on the subject.
Your first link is to a post about older Kgirls getting tired. It has nothing to do with BBFS. Your second post is from TWO YEARS AGO, even though you capitalize the word "NOW" for emphasis, which just shows there is no limit to your dishonest representations. Some of the top tier girls are demanding and getting longer breaks now, so even though you may not believe it, I DON'T know how long the breaks are for girls I haven't seen lately. They have learned that demand is sufficient that they can take more time between customers and it will not affect their overall business.
The state of the business TWO YEARS AGO was as I represented, which is NOT "now" as you misrepresent, a lie that negates your entire post. Proper cleanup WAS a problem. Since then, as I said ABOVE, the girls have recognized this was a problem and most of them are now doing the cleanup from CIP while the customer who did it is STILL THERE, so the cleanup is on HIS time and is done BEFORE the ensuing break between customers. If she doesn't do the cleanup while the customer is still there, then nothing has changed for those girls and their customers, but they are now the minority. So it's still a function of how much time they have between customers, including the time they use for cleanup from the first customer.
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My current favorite recently told me she insists on a minimum of 15 minutes between appointments and prefers even more time. As CDL said, not every girl wants to maximize every working hour.
I forgot to mention I did consider the fact that she may have a real life bf who creampied her in the morning. But as CDL said, only a low percentage of kgirls have bfs, and even if she did get creampied by one, at least it's her bf and not some random monger!
between a BF and a random Monger?
One is cleaner than the other?
Who's to say what the BF is doing when she's at work, or anytime for that matter!
IMO, a cream pie is a cream pie!
I like earlier appointments too, maybe I get her fresh AND rested.
But that's no guarantee, there is always a risk, just better odds in your favor!
a boyfriend and a random monger is that the boyfriend does not pay by the hour for sex, . . . . . . . .but it can still cost him plenty to live with a Kgirl. Lol
I saw one famous gal in the SBAY who had unfortunately there was a visible deposit left over from the previous customer coming inside the bank. It wasn't obvious at first, but later was.
one well known SJ provider had a previous visitors deposit start showing after a while. A bit before that she stopped and starting wiping herself off with paper towels while giving me be me a BBJ. I was wondering what was going on. When I later saw the cream I realized what was going on.
have complained about when working in the BA is that the bookers will send the next customer up without asking the girl first if she is ready. In SoCal, when you say you are ready, they will ask the girl first if she is also ready before giving you the go-ahead. This is how situations like you describe happen. One Kgirl I know well said she would never go back to the BA because sometimes a guy was late getting out and the next guy was nearly to the door when the first guy left, so her break time is only a couple of minutes to do everything to get ready for the next customer. Then you have a guy waiting at the door, which is not a safe practice anyway, and he gets a text from the booker that the girl is not ready yet. So the customer gets a bad attitude and the girl gets a bad review when all the booker had to do first was ASK the girl if she was ready before sending the guy up.
Most if not all POs I know check with the girl if she's ready and won't let you get the green light withoit her confirmation.
when I asked them why they don't tour to the BA, but I can't say when their most recent experience in the BA was. I didn't ask them that. Even if things have changed, as you suggest, the BA bookers are not getting the word out, or these girls would not still be saying this. If they believe it to be true and have heard nothing to alter their own experience and perception, they will have the same belief, whether the reality has changed or not.
I have similar concerns. We need to do what we can to reduce bbfs. Tell your booker you're not comfortable with girls who bbfs. I already have.
If enough of us let them know, maybe the trend will change at least a little bit.
I posted about this a few days back too.
The Orgs and Kgirls will do what they want to get the money they are after.
They will tell you to just see the GFE providers.
There are a lot of guys that want BBFS and don't care to see GFE Kgirls.
But they do complain about the cost, which is the best bang^^ for your buck!
Also, my opinion!
The openly BBFS ship has sailed. Even if it was stopped, the girls doing it would still offer it, so it would be there!
You would just be unaware of it happening, I guess and all my opinion!
All of this is not new, it's been going on for a long time!
Go ahead and check out other sites and TER on their older threads and posts, about
getting BBFS or not wanting it, bad service, pics not right, girls older and more!
This goes back 3, 4, 8 & 10 years, probably more, about pretty much what is being talked/complained about now!
So, IMO and from reading older posts, none of this is new!
Just history repeating itself, nothing will change and if it does, it will change again!
IMO the best you can do is, be happy it's here to enjoy!
Also, maneuver and adjust what you do to get the best out of, IMO, a real good corner of the P4P world!
The Orgs and Kgirls will do what they want to get the money they are after.
They will tell you to just see the GFE providers.
There are a lot of guys that want BBFS and don't care to see GFE Kgirls.
But they do complain about the cost, which is the best bang^^ for your buck!
Also, my opinion!
The openly BBFS ship has sailed. Even if it was stopped, the girls doing it would still offer it, so it would be there!
You would just be unaware of it happening, I guess and all my opinion!
All of this is not new, it's been going on for a long time!
Go ahead and check out other sites and TER on their older threads and posts, about
getting BBFS or not wanting it, bad service, pics not right, girls older and more!
This goes back 3, 4, 8 & 10 years, probably more, about pretty much what is being talked/complained about now!
So, IMO and from reading older posts, none of this is new!
Just history repeating itself, nothing will change and if it does, it will change again!
IMO the best you can do is, be happy it's here to enjoy!
Also, maneuver and adjust what you do to get the best out of, IMO, a real good corner of the P4P world!
My view is clear: if some girls offer it for customers who want it, that is their choice and their customers' choice. But I would like to see more girls that never offer bbfs to customers.
what you want, but you get what you need!
The Kgirls are going to do whatever they want!
They will do what they feel is best for them!
What I want is irrelevant!
I just maneuver through the Kgirl system and adjust
what I think will be the best for me and enjoy pretty much the whole process!
IMO, there are plenty of really good providers that are CFS, some on my repeat list and are favorites of mine.
If there is a Kgirl that offers BBFS, and I want to see her I just cover up!
Please don't go into the risk factor, it's been discussed plenty, and there are risks from many angles in the P4P world!
"what I want is irrelevant"
Really?
What other industry can have such docile customers where they don't care what they want in terms of product and practice?
But the question wasn't whether what you want is relevant or not. The question was whether you, in fact, want it or not. Or is your will to follow and eat whatever you're given so big that you completely don't even have your opinion, and you only follow the sellers opinion.
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Say Rocket, why don't you wise up and give it a rest!
You call me a slave, well fuck you!
Why don't you hobby the way you want, and I'll Monger the way I want for me!
It's no skin off your ass or money out of your pocket!
IMO, the girls and orgs are going to do what's best for them, said that before!
I answered the guy's question the way I wanted to, so like it or not, that's how it is!
And just to be clear, I'm enjoying myself with the sessions I do, and don't waste time sniveling about something that I don't care about!
Once again, IMO, this is the best corner in the P4P world, I maneuver quite well through it and I'm very happy with the results!
By the way, you claim to help your fellow Mongers/hobbyists, right?
So, you can't answer my PM, it's been a couple of days and no reply!
Whatever your message would have been, I think you could have answered me by now!
I didn't call you a slave, and I certainly didn't insult you. But thank you for the insult.
I merely pointed out that having no opinion of your own and "what I think is irrelevant" is a slave mentality. The question posed to you was different and asked your thoughts specifically. I thought you didn't understand this and did not answer what YOUR thoughts were by accident. I didn't realize you meant to not answer the question on purpose. I thought that's something others do, but not you. Apologies for thinking this.
As far as your pms go, I ran out of my vip a bit ago and as you might know, I'm unable to write pms when not having it. I just got vip back and I will reply to you and others who have pmd me. I find it sad that you use the word "claim", but I'll leave it on your conscience. I believe I always answered pms in timely manner when I have vip.
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From where I'm sitting, I say you did insult me, whether you say I think like a slave or I am a slave, it's all the same to me!
Not insulting me? Docile, not caring about the girls and uncool practices, I care plenty, I adjust my way of seeing the girls by leaving a lousy org/po and with a lot of research, so I have a real good idea of who will be behind the door and how the session will go!
My irrelevancy was showing that whatever I want the orgs will do what's best for them!
That's my opinion and answer to the posters question.
Too bad you didn't pick up on it, because that's something you are always saying, the orgs have unfair practices toward Mongers/clients!
If you think fuck you is an insult, well that's how you see it!
And you're welcome!
I used it to show that I didn't appreciate what you said!
I followed the send email drop down on your name, so I guess TER's system is messed up!
I would think if there is a link for email it would go through and be readable.
I guess that's another thing TER should fix, no VIP then you can't send email to the person, just my thought!
I said claim as a bit of a dig. I know your stance quite well.
"My irrelevancy was showing that whatever I want the orgs will do what's best for them!"
And that is precisely my point. I mentioned it in the above post to cdl. We all know your opinion will not influence the orgs. But I still want to hear YOUR opinion. What do you, badger48, think of this. Every person has their own opinion on the matter.
Not having an opinion simply because it doesn't matter is what I likened to slave mentality. I did not call you a slave nor did I say anything about not caring about bad practices.
I said that not having an opinion because it doesn't matter is a slave mentality.
The other possibility is that you do have an opinion, but simply don't want to voice it because of something. Whether it is fear of orgs, not wanting to stir the pot, etc. I can understand this a lot more than not having an opinion at all. It's just I find puzzling that on an anonymous board one would be scared to express their opinion. It's not like you're one of the DC posters who was vetted by Klient to some orgs so they know exactly who you are.
If you don't like my answer that's too bad!
Here's my already posted answer - My irrelevancy was showing that whatever I want the orgs will do what's best for them!
That's my opinion and answer to the posters question.
This is the posters question - are you in support of all girls turning into bbfs girls or not?
ALL girls! That's a stupid question, IMO, so they are going to do what's best for them! Maybe if he said 50% or anything other than ALL, the question could have been answered, so you would be happy and not drone on about it!
Really Rocket, give it a rest and move on!
I'd rather have all these lengthy posts about the girls looks, service and attitudes, so we can help to make good choices on who to see!
So, stop trying to get me to say something that you can understand and except what I wrote, or don't, but as far as I'm concerned it has been answered!
So, now you're fucking with me with insults about fear and being afraid to speak about orgs and being found out about who I am!
How do you know that I'm not open with PO's about my identity!
I guess you're too stupid and arrogant to remember that you asked me a while back to name a fucked-up org and I did!
You even posted on the board about how I wasn't afraid to name the org and Kgirl to other posters when they didn't!
So, how about moving on so you can insult and fuck with me about something new!
This is overdone, this horse has been beaten to death more than it should have been!!
EOM!!!
Let me give an analogy since it seems you're not getting what I'm saying. Apologies if you're getting it and simply don't want to respond otherwise.
Let say we're back to early 1960s and someone asks you, are in favor of all colored folk getting equal rights in this country?
You can say, yes I do. Or no I don't. That will show your position as asked by the question. We will omit the implied morality.
Or you can say, the country will do what's best for the country.
This last answer is a non-answer. It gives the person who asked a question no insight into what YOU actually think.
No, I will not give it a rest. I simply pointed out that we don't know what you think, hence you didn't really answer the question...you deferred it. Thanks for calling me stupid and aggorant tho.
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The problem here rocket is that everyone knows that you're really not asking a simple question of one's opinion but that any response will lead to your drawing other conclusions and extending the dialogue into your framing of the larger situation.
As you've said you just want other's opinions why not just take what they say as their opinion and leave it at that? If you don't think they answered your question why keep making a big deal about it (other than from some TATTT standing) and constantly badgering people for the type of answer you want?
I actually don't care what badgers answer is as long as it's his own, in this case. In fact - his last post is a good answer as opposed to what he initially said.
The only reason I even started this is because I consider badger a fairly good poster who isn't afraid to state some things and the non-answer rubbed me the wrong way. When someone asks me whether I prefer pineapple or pepperoni on my pizza it's unfathomable to me to reply with "whatever the pizza man chooses"
If it were you, cdl, cks... I wouldn't even start this. I already know you're content with giving non-answer or refusing to answer questions. I've seen it beforehand to much more difficult questions. Like if I ask you if you were vetted for some orgs in nova by a poster here who has close ties to orgs. You will be in a predicament. Because if you tell the truth, obviously it follows that you probably wouldnt want to shittalk orgs publicly with him reading posts. And if you lie, well, youd lie.
I do like to ask questions where you have to lie or basically show you're biased. It's a conscience litmus test.
But in badgers case, no such thing. I simply wanted to know his opinion and wanted him to answer it with his own thoughts.
"If it were you, cdl, cks... I wouldn't even start this. I already know you're content with giving non-answer or refusing to answer questions. I've seen it beforehand to much more difficult questions. Like if I ask you if you were vetted for some orgs in nova by a poster here who has close ties to orgs. You will be in a predicament. Because if you tell the truth, obviously it follows that you probably wouldnt want to shittalk orgs publicly with him reading posts. And if you lie, well, youd lie. "
[And I realize that you're just baiting me for a comment in you made up hypothetical you claim as some truth. I won't bother responding to your follow up. The game you like playing here doesn't really help anything or make the site one that is enjoyable to be on.]
You made a bit deal about cks making up shit about you and posting it yet here you are doing the same. You have no actual information on the above because it has never happened and even if it had you would not be in any position to know what the truth was other than via rumor.
So I will set some things straight for you.
Yes, I have had one of the guys here vouch for me for an agency that I've used once. The session was good but I've not been interested in seeing other girls there or wanted to see someone else more. So I have not had any reason to publicly say anything bad about the agency. I also have ZERO reason to think that person holds any type of grudge for someone saying what they think. He has shown himself to be rather accepting of differing opinions and non retaliatory. So I would have ZERO incentive on that count to mute myself or lie about anything.
I will also add I also have not called out some of the others here for what I found to be very bad recommendation -- claims of exceptional provider that I found mediocre. One is not someone I see eye-to-eye with, and seems to be one of your buddies, but rather than chalking that up to bad intent and calling him out like you do, I give the benefit of the thought we have differing criteria for what makes a great session and he was not trying to mislead me for some reason.
Last, as you know as well, I stopped reviewing more than two years ago so my days of making public statements of the type you suggest is much more limited (I still voice my opinions on the boards and some times that related to a specific provider or agency but mostly its about general approach to the market/activity that specific cases). As that was at least a year and a half (I'm guessing) before any monger related reference why should I even find myself in the position you claim I would be in?
Just more case of you arguing against anything I say because of your own biases that you cannot see past and have prevented you from even understanding what I write or accepting any corrections to your misunderstandings. But keep living in you benighted world and showing your biased and myopia driven hypocrisy by playing the pot to (I'll trust your claims that cks's accusations are false and just part of your two's posting relationship) kettle while claiming some moral high ground. [Edit -- perhaps that should be RH's accusations -- loose track of who is making specific comments about rocket's behaviors.]
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This is weird. I think you're confusing threads here, this one was about giving your own answer to question, lol. So I don't see anything about pot and kettle. I've answered every question thrown my way. Just like I told badger one can ask me almost anything on any site and I will answer it as much as I can. I didn't make up anything that did not happenor isn't true.
I do give you props on answering the hypothetical scenario. I was wrong in that you wouldn't answer it.
Maybe at some point you could point to bad session and publicly name the provider (who must be active) as I've challenged you. I will truly be a believer then. But in all seriousness, I'm impressed and thank you.
Once again, this was a hypothetical question and its pretty different than outright accusation about someone's employment status, being BLd and so forth. And I didn't even accuse you of anything.
As far as moral grounds go, yes I consider reviews and public information that is shared with mongers as sacred. I consider conflict of interest something that must prevent people from writing reviews. Why do you think I mention a certain Klient here? I don't like org people and shills who write public reviews of girls they have conflict of interest in. Yes, I consider it detrimental to the hobby.
Who is the provider you found mediocre btw? I think you misunderstand me. I don't call out mongers for having different tastes than me. Lots of my bros have completely different opinions from me on girls quality-wise. I call out shills and people with conflict of interest. And I call out the provider herself, if I had a bad sesh with her.
Either way, I appreciate the input.
Cheers
"If it were you, cdl, cks... I wouldn't even start this. I already know you're content with giving non-answer or refusing to answer questions. I've seen it beforehand to much more difficult questions. Like if I ask you if you were vetted for some orgs in nova by a poster here who has close ties to orgs. You will be in a predicament. Because if you tell the truth, obviously it follows that you probably wouldnt want to shittalk orgs publicly with him reading posts. And if you lie, well, youd lie. "
[And I realize that you're just baiting me for a comment in you made up hypothetical you claim as some truth. I won't bother responding to your follow up. The game you like playing here doesn't really help anything or make the site one that is enjoyable to be on.]
You made a bit deal about cks making up shit about you and posting it yet here you are doing the same. You have no actual information on the above because it has never happened and even if it had you would not be in any position to know what the truth was other than via rumor.
So I will set some things straight for you.
Yes, I have had one of the guys here vouch for me for an agency that I've used once. The session was good but I've not been interested in seeing other girls there or wanted to see someone else more. So I have not had any reason to publicly say anything bad about the agency. I also have ZERO reason to think that person holds any type of grudge for someone saying what they think. He has shown himself to be rather accepting of differing opinions and non retaliatory. So I would have ZERO incentive on that count to mute myself or lie about anything.
I will also add I also have not called out some of the others here for what I found to be very bad recommendation -- claims of exceptional provider that I found mediocre. One is not someone I see eye-to-eye with, and seems to be one of your buddies, but rather than chalking that up to bad intent and calling him out like you do, I give the benefit of the thought we have differing criteria for what makes a great session and he was not trying to mislead me for some reason.
Last, as you know as well, I stopped reviewing more than two years ago so my days of making public statements of the type you suggest is much more limited (I still voice my opinions on the boards and some times that related to a specific provider or agency but mostly its about general approach to the market/activity that specific cases). As that was at least a year and a half (I'm guessing) before any monger related reference why should I even find myself in the position you claim I would be in?
Just more case of you arguing against anything I say because of your own biases that you cannot see past and have prevented you from even understanding what I write or accepting any corrections to your misunderstandings. But keep living in you benighted world and showing your biased and myopia driven hypocrisy by playing the pot to (I'll trust your claims that cks's accusations are false and just part of your two's posting relationship) kettle while claiming some moral high ground. [Edit -- perhaps that should be RH's accusations -- loose track of who is making specific comments about rocket's behaviors.]
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comments yet. NO booker or PO has ever screened CDL nor is CDL on their customer list because I have never given my TER username to make an appointment. CDL is completely anonymous with Kgirls, bookers and indies, except for ONE indie, and she has long retired from the biz. That turned out to be a circumstance of how we met. I didn't become a customer until later because as friends, we both felt the chemistry. The Kgirls I have been a real life boyfriend with do not even know I'm CDL because I never go on TER when I'm with them. I use only my first name, and my existing refs to get screened at new agencies that pop up in SoCal. If it's a new org someplace else, I will text a girl I know who is working there and she will get me approved with her booker. This is how I first cracked NoVA many years ago, and nobody there knows I am CDL, and CDL has never been linked to any hobby phone number I have used. So, I don't really know or care HOW connected your NoVA wannabe is, I'm immune from any fallout because I'm completely anonymous.
Thank you for the warning, but as you can see, intimidation is not really your long suit. Lol
...(a real life K-girlfriend)." Well then, since CDL is ALWAYS on TER, it's obvious he never has a real life K-girlfriend.
Once again that's my answer, take it or leave it, like it or not!!!
IMO, stupid question! ALL BBFS or ALL CFS! I'll take variety!
And this is what I think.
Stop with the repetitive posts and hassles and move on!
You're welcome and you insult me, so turnabout is fair play!
P.S.
My position is ACG with a move to finish in Mish!!
I see the poster, mega what the fuck, hasn't answered or at least responded to my questions that I asked in a couple of posts going back a few days!
Why don't you ask him about replying to a post asking him a question?
And do it repeatedly, too!
One more thing about the stupid & arrogant thank you.
And this has been posted, in case you didn't read it, you called me out on something that you praised me on a while back, so I do name orgs if they have shitty practices!
My POV, straight out insult!
"What other industry can have such docile customers where they don't care what they want in terms of product and practice?" Answer?
Gas stations and food sales. Customers will take what they can get at whatever price they have to pay and will sometimes stand in line to get it. You might say these are "necessities of life", but for a lot of men, pussy is also a necessity of life, and there are only two ways to get it . . . . . 1) Get into a relationship with someone who will start getting older immediately, with all of the negative baggage that entails, and which is ultimately more expensive in most cases, or 2) pay for pussy with no strings attached regardless of the price and be able to fuck hot 30-year-olds for the rest of your life as long as you have the money to meet current prices. It's an individual choice.
When I was in high school I worked in restaurants for money. One was a national chain (not fast food) so naturally had a pretty fixed offering. One night some guy came in an tried arguing with the waitress that menus were not provided to let the customer know what is available but to provide ideas for what someone can ask for. This was after asking if the place would fix something not on the menu.
Needless to say it did not quite go the way the guy thought. The manager eventually had to explain that if there were restaurants that operated that was he should stick with them but in this place the menu is provided to let customers know exactly what they can ask for and as long as what they want is actually on the menu they will get what the want.
I didn't ask whether the customer would be so pressed they'd take whatever. Both you and Jensen completely missed the mark - and why am I not surprised? And BTW, Jensen sure does love his cars.
The question wasn't whether one's opinions matters. It was whether one has an opinion at all. Millions of people's opinions doesn't impact the bottom line. That doesn't mean people dont have them.
A slave mentality is hence not disclosing your own opinion, saying what it does matter. Me and others want to hear people's opinion, regardless of it mattering. We wanna know what you think. Not your boss's opinion. Not your PO opinion. Not your pr department opinion. Not your lawyers opinion. Your OWN opinion. In context of anonymous internet where you most likely won't be persecuted for having one, at least in this country. At least so far.
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Gas stations and grocery stores do NOT have customers who "will take what they can get at whatever price they have to pay." If you don't want to pay high gas prices, you can take public transportation. If you don't want to pay the prices at Whole Foods or Bristol Farms, you can shop at Grocery Outlet or Aldi. Or in the case of hobbyists like Robertini - be dumpster divers.
The same reasoning applies to providers: non K-girls = luxury cars; K-girls = public transportation.
of public transportation. Why am I not surprised that the guy who reports profiles at 2 VIP days a pop is also a fan of public transportation? Another fail since no one here knows who robertini is. He has never posted on the Kgirl board and hasn't posted on any other board since January. OTOH, it's pretty safe to attack someone who is not here. You're not going to be made a fool of, like usual. Lol
Not slave mentality at all.
When Ford started revolutionizing auto manufacturing he offer the Model T at very low prices (due to cheaper production) and the customer could get it in any color they wanted -- as lone as they wanted black.
I would like to use the internet (and my phone for that matter) without my personal information being shared and sold. But was do I get? Terms of Service that say if I want to use the internet I have to agree to having what I provide -- and in some cases even what I never provided or agreed to -- being used for further profit by companies via their marketing activities. I guess you would have to agree that most of us are slaved to the tech companies in your area. Possibly even the one you work for.
Or you could just take Badger's point in the most sensible way. Producers and service providers offer their service largely on the terms they want as long as enough demand under those terms exists. Those that would like different terms do largely have a take it or leave it situation on their hands. Most of us get that.
I've been mongering for a long time and the girls were as much in demand 10 years ago as they are today. Back then it was all CFS and that's good for everyone. They had enough business even back then to keep them busy.
It is impossible that the majority of guys on here have changed their tastes over the past year so much that they now enjoy playing in someone else's creampie.
Please let your bookers know and help stop this trend of bbfscip. This is not normal, this is not safe. Even people in third world countries have more sense than this.
do you mean the last year or so?
Did you check out the older Threads and posts?
It's been around a long time, ain't new, just the upcharge and that it's more open!
There are BF, special customers, party times and other situations where plenty of BBFS takes place and with the CFS girls too!
BTW, do you do any P2P? Do you cover for that?
Have you asked/told your Booker to stop BBFS?
Real curious, what answer did you get?
Its all about probabilities. Either you understand probabilities or you don't. Hence these discussions on these forums and people who go "She probably sometime had a BF who did her bare, so all of us mongers might as well all go bare CIP all the time with all the girls".
Would you also go "Someone probably died in a car accident while he had his seatbelt on, so let's all stop wearing seatbelts"?
The problem now is if it is advertised open as the norm, all providers are pressured to do this. Also, the girls probably keep themselves safe with PreP, but if the mongers aren't on PreP, then they aren't as safe.
risks, so you should hobby the way that you are comfortable with!
Let others do what they want and stop trying to control them, because you can't!
Why not answer my questions?
Do you cover for P2P?
Did YOU tell a booker and what did they say?
badger, Waste of time explaining anything to you. At least half your posts are things that only you know what you're saying.
You asked that anyone who was uncomfortable with BBFS Kgirls, to tell their bookers no BBFS Kgirls, that they are uncomfortable with them!
THE QUESTION TO YOU IS, did you tell a booker about no BBFS and what did they say to you?
And I know you said you told a booker; I'm asking what they said to you! UNDERSTAND?
2nd QUESTION, do you engage in P2P and do you cover?
You do understand the questions, right?
So how about an answer!
I used capitals so you could see and understand them!
Which brings me to, I don't care if you understand my posts, it's not my problem if things are hard for you to understand!
You make it sound like you speak for everyone on the board, do you? That's another question in case you don't understand, but you PROBABLY won't understand!
Your first question is irrelevant. We let the provider know what we want. They can say whatever they want. The good ones will keep customers happy and the others won't. Our job is to ask for what we want. Are you a booker to care so much about what they say?
2nd question is also irrelevant. But if it matters so much to you, I don't p2p for the same reason that I don't bbfs.
If you enjoy frolicking in other mens' cum, go for it. Some of us on this board don't and have the right to ask for a safer experience. You're upset that we ask?
you should have ignored my post, but you just had to answer it!
I just wondered if the Booker was polite and told you to get fucked and take what's available!
Or did they fire all BBFS Kgirls because of you crying about it!
And you still didn't answer the question!
They either said something or ignored you and that would be an answer!
A lot of guys do P2P and snivel about BBFS, but don't get that they are practically inside anyway!
You should cover and try some P2P, even you might like it!
I don't frolic in anything, never have!
And it makes me wonder, where do you frolic and what do you frolic in?
You brought up the term, so you've got to have the experience!
There you go speaking for other people on the board!
Unless you were elected to the position!
BTW, I also have the right to play Devil's Advocate or just ask a question about a post!
This is in one of your posts about BBFS, "if some girls offer it for customers who want it, that is their choice and their customers' choice".
These are in my first post to you.
Kgirls will do what they want to get the money they are after.
There are a lot of guys that want BBFS and don't care to see GFE Kgirls.
So, the providers do BBFS for the extra money, their choice!
And the customers want the BBFS, that's their choice.
I don't get upset, no need to.
I post, reply to posts or ignore when it's needed!
You should cover and try some P2P, even you might like it!
What exactly is your stance and why are you supporting BBFS CIP? Or maybe you're not? Are you a booker?
is not a booker. He's just a fellow high-volume SoCal monger who has an insatiable appetite for Kgirl pussy served whatever way he's in the mood for. Lol
For me, BBFS and P2P are not necessarily all or nothing. I only do BBFS with girls I have dated in the past on the outside and who do not openly advertise it. For me, P2P is less risky, because her girl parts are subject to inspection before partaking, just like my dick is for her. To make it feel even safer, I usually limit P2P to the shower, where I use soap as the lubricant. A good rinse afterward can wash away any guilt or nasties, and I have not had an STD since I started making these limitations part of my sessions, over three years now.
I stopped DATY on PSE providers. Risked it several times and got mouth and tongue sores day later. Cleared up after a week but I stick with GFE providers for that and no problems since. Need more young gals in 20s and real/recent photos and many of us would keep many many GFE gals very busy like BELLA who you have to schedule 5 days in advance.
If you give a DFK to a provider who does BBBJ, you’re tasting all the dicks that have been in her mouth.
Honestly, good providers should get a read on what the client is comfortable with and proceed from there.
not really. if you daty a pussy that was cream pied 20 minutes ago, there's a big chance you will be eating some semen. if you dfk a girl that gave a blow job, you don't eat any actual dick meat. plus a mouth is much easier to clean out than a pussy is. after cream pieing my wife at home, she will tell me that it is starting to ooze back out usually at about 10 to 15 minutes afterwards.
There is a time-lapse between a semen deposit and the time it takes gravity and normal muscle movement to work the deposit back outside. The BBBJ analogy of the prior poster fails because you can be certain that her mouth is clean because she will use the mouthwash at the same time the customer does, and you SAW her do it. Unless you know a provider EXTREMELY well, they will not usually let you watch while they clean the creampie remnants out of their pussy, so us assuming that they DID do it requires a leap of faith, to say the least.