Whats going on with this 2nd round of rate increases?  

If you share with us where these rate increases are taking place tomorrow and at which orgs.  Otherwise, you have provided no information that can help anyone else answer your question.  

Clearly he's talking about the bay area.

He wasn’t clearly talking about the Bay Area. His statement was about as vague as vague could be.

Fair enough, I guess I thought it's deducable that he's talking about the bay area. All his reviews are for the bay area, and so are his posts in the last few threads.

Although he wasn't clear about the location he was referring to, I too assumed he was referring to the Bay Area given his reviews. I will say that I wasn't aware of any increases but if it's to 2.6, that isn't too bad given what the rest of the country is paying.

Rates are rising.  Why?  Cuz we had a nice run and have collectively enjoyed the lowest rates in 'merica.

Yes talking about Bay Area prices..

Yes you guessed right Bay Area prices I am referring to …

We're still priced lower than LA, but we're no longer a bargain. the milf factor is still stupid high and reviews are harsh in a lot of cases. We are getting no age reduction whatsoever, and to get back to where it was will take a heroic shift.

Dang, seems like the last 220 org has fallen too.

anything he said in his post.  If you want participation on the boards, you should provide as much info as possible in your OP.  A link would have been even better.  Posters should post on the premise that their post should have enough info to stand alone, especially in a new thread.  This is a national board.  

A link to what exactly ?

Right, the whole "more quality for higher prices" did not happen.

That's true, but also true it's not that hard to click the link to his reviews.  

Never understood making donations non-divisible by 20 as that's the bill most ATMs seem to carry. Seems like an implicit way of asking for 260.

If the word really were "deducable", maybe the English language would be easier and there would be more Korean visitors? LOL.  

as it would be if he provided a link.  Why do you have a bug up your ass about it?  It was only his second post EVER on the K-girl board and that's how you welcome him?

I agree there has been little to discuss -- which is the problem.

Imo there only has been little to discuss only if one adheres to the whole "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all" mantra.  

The girls that are good enough to work anywhere they want to are staying away from the BA BECAUSE of the low prices.  If the guys there were notoriously high tippers, generally speaking and across the board, more would be willing to chance it, but that's not the case either, so the better girls are merely following the money.  Ideally, they want cities that have a higher average rate, but who also can supply them with a steady flow of customers.  It does them no good to get $300 or more for an hour if they're only getting two or three customers a day.  This is what happened to Seattle when $300 became the LOW end of the market and better girls were higher than that.  It was a great hourly wage, but the customer flow fell to a trickle.  There has to be a balance between price and demand.  The BA orgs are just trying to find that balance.  When they do, prices will remain static for awhile, and whatever rate they settle at will become the new normal.

The same thing has happened in LA, lol.

coming through that are PSE girls because the orgs are making a conscious effort to recruit them for PSE service  The recruiters are focusing on second and third tier salons  (salon girl tiers are based on looks, not service,, which is why these second and third tier girls are not as beautiful as we are used to in SoCal) for recruiting where the girls are known to go BB with the customers.  Overall, PSE girls in LA are still a minority, and much more so if they are established top tier girls.

I don't see what your post has to do with the price increase

Do you still have girls coming from overseas on the WC? From what I've seen, it seems like it stopped last year and hasn't resumed. If anything, it seems like more girls have left the country than entered it from SK. At least in my area, our girls have been recirculating from within the country.

Exactamundo. Can we have Nate Dogg (RIP) sing the hook here ?

so yeah, you're wrong.  Price increases in LA started shortly after CV shut down in March of 2018.  It took over  a year and a half before $280 became the prevailing rate.  There are still a few orgs at $260.  At the same time that prices took the first bump from $250-260, the first org with a BBFS upcharge of $100 appeared in Ktown, so it was $260 GFE and $360 PSE.  Many orgs don't put up the price for BBFS, but they will merely state that with certain girls, BBFS is "available", but the standard upcharge is one Benjamin even though its not published.  

Er, so what was I wrong about?

began in early summer of 2018, not "late 2019."  I'd say that's a conflict, but maybe my definition is different than yours.  

Um OK. I will go with published prices if you dont mind.

I just saw a seasoned kgirl in LA with pretty good reviews and price was $300. Felt a little steep, so I decided tip would only be $20 unless she excelled. That’s what I usually leave for my repeat list! She was pretty god but not worth $340 with tip!

Yep.  Found out when I asked to book.

I have funny story about that. There was a Pinay provider that set her rate at $245,  probably figuring most people would round up.

Happy 4th of July as LSC increased $$$ to now align with every other K agency in Bay Area.

Lol, no one is grandfathering mongers...especially considering some places are hitting 420 (price, not Mary Jane) now with all upcharges included. Nearly a 100% increase.  

Its pretty bad when kgirls agencies LSC, BG,  KPLEASURES are now the same price tier as caucasian providers who are often younger with no language barrier….not to mention you can sometimes negotiate with pricing….  Kgirls agencies are no longer a bargain and will price themselves out of the market

for wanting to go where they make the most money.  There's a little irony in mongers complaining that they are no longer getting the hot girls in the BA, but then also complaining when prices go up in order to ATTRACT hot girls to the BA.  I don't think you can have it both ways.  I could be wrong, but I don't think so.  Lol

an experienced Kgirl than I would for a young Caucasian girl because of the difference in the level of service.  I don't care how good their English is, if the service is not up to what I would get from a Kgirl, then its a pass for me on the yutes.  Just my opinion.  I know there are young mongers that value looks over service who will disagree with me.  

There has been one K-Girl agency in Dallas for many, many years that has always charged $300 hr which is right on par with what the typical Indy was charging until COVID and the Post COVID era where now we have several Sub $300 Asian Agencies and quite a few White/Black/Brown/Asian indies getting quite a bit more than $300 hr, some of them actually have GPS rates of a $1,000 hr or so in TEXAS of all places. lol

For a lot of mongers here who were used to everything being included in 220, the prices going from 220 all inclusive to 420 if you want pse and msog, is nearly a 100% increase.

GFEI's po literally said BA mongers are cheap, lol. I asked Allison about it and she said LA clientele are more inclined to tip as well.  

GFEI po also dissed anonymous sites (like this one) and its users , while reaping direct benefit of posting links to ter reviews of their girls on GFEI site.

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the best tippers are in OC, and LA is next.  Ktown IS a rougher area than West LA, Marina del Rey, or Playa Vista, the other hot spots for Kgirls to work from in LA. Ktown also gets a much higher percentage of Korean, Chinese and Middle Eastern Customers, where a large percentage prefer BBFS, so that's why so many girls working Ktown offer it, according to the girls that work there.  

Don’t forget these agencies and girls pay no taxes.  Unlike the majority of us who have our paychecks reduced.   I know $20 / $40 increases don't seem like much on the surface, but when you as a customer are getting nothing better for that increase, it really leaves sour taste in your mouth.    

What does your post about rates doubling in the Bay Area have to do with my post about prices going up a lousy twenty bucks in Texas?

$3.50 for the kind of bread I buy, and recently I've been paying $4.50.  That's over a 25% increase in just a couple of years.  The bread tastes the same, so there is no sour taste in my mouth (pun intended - lol).  My  question to you is, what makes Kgirl services different than bread when it comes to inflation and pricing?     (besides the fact that MOST Kgirls don't have yeast.  Sorry, couldn't help that one either. lol)

I'm just continuing the discussion. Ie, you talk about DFW and increases there and how people react... and I'm talking about increases here (bay area) and how people react.

When people have been paying same rates for nearly a decade, and then suddenly the rates near double over a course of lie three of months, you can't compare it to the inflation rates.

No one disputes that having to pay more for something is anyone's first choice in the vast majority of cases. However, most of us get that prices are not fixed and when one market's pricing is out of line with other markets prices will adjust, quality will adjust or a bit of both will occur.

Once again, here you go again speaking for "most of us". Stop doing that

I don't count as people.

Huh? Where did I say that I dont count you as people? What?

They’ve increased in LA as well, prices at some orgs seemingly higher than before. I still am happy to pay the stated price for superior service, but I hope for superior talent and superior service. I think that is fair

Well, if spas/storefronts are the same way in dmv as they are here, there are many differences. There is no schedule, there is no screening, and extras are negotiated always.

Clearly not very common either.

Interesting. I can see a few differences though:

I asked this on another forum, but didn't really get any serious answers. Is there a concrete reason why the Bay Area historically operated in a bubble? Is high volume and a different kind of clientele the reason why prices remained lower for all-inclusive service than everywhere else in the country?

Interesting, in our neck of the woods the spa house fee is around 40-70 bucks depending on the establishment and that covers the massage part. The rest of extras is negotiable and very reliant in the place and girl and how desperate you or her are.