Review of Erika from Brianthehealer got me thinking: can we really tell if a provider is from South Korea or North Korea? Or are we just relying on American propaganda to believe we “know” what we know about North Korea?

The reviewer here is convinced that Erika has never been to a gynecologist and probably doesn’t know what STDs are—therefore, they believe it’s riskier to practice BBFS with her. But is that truly the case? Or are we, once again, just relying on American propaganda?

Can we really tell? people who are native Korean speakers generally can tell via accent, that's my understanding.

 
Here's the thing, girls from NK often don't want others to know they're from NK. But I'll say, in the bay area right now, it's harder to find a kgirl who is not from NK than who is from there.

The thing is, they care. I as a customer don't, at all. It ain't where you from it's where you at. Where they from doesn't affect me or other mongers in any way.

 

"and probably doesn’t know what STDs are—therefore, they believe it’s riskier to practice BBFS with her."  

Sounds like horseshit. Even if all this is true, which is doubtful as girls talk to each other, give pointers and almost no girls actually go straight from NK to here...internet exists.  

Volume of customers and the customers exposure to stds probably matter so much more than her supposed ignorance. Most girls have a cabinets of meds they're on.  

I don't know. It could potentially be the case, but to me it's something so small probability wise I wouldn't even think about it. Bb is rampant, and stds aren't uncommon. Imo unfair to single out some girl because she's from NK.  

 
If the girl is supposedly ignorant about her anatomy and meds, I'd probably worry about pregnancy first.
But really, none of this belongs in a review imo.

I do agree that native Korean speakers will recognize a different accent and some of the words are pronounced differently in North Korean Korean than is the South. I suspect any non-native speaking client is just taking the girls word -- and maybe it's better to claim having come from NK than SK for various reasons.

 
I'm pretty sure than any North Korean escorts that are in the USA passed through South Korea so when through its processing and educational (for defectors to learn about how things are outside NK) which will include medical checkup and basic medical education. I would expect that to include gynecological checkup and info about birth control and STIs.

 
I'm not exactly sure what American propaganda is suppose to be claiming that North Korean women are that clueless about their own bodies -- it's not like the Kim regime had some incentive to eradicate whatever knowledge that already existed about sex or sex related disease and infections or whatever medical procedures were related to treatments and prevention. I'd chalk that one up more to ignorance than listening to propaganda.

 
As for the underlying concern, each makes their own assessment of the risks and, in terms of the escort, her aversion or concerns about the risks of uncovered sex. I would probably not make some prejudiced assessment based on my thinking someone was from the north or the south but more on how she was behaving from the start of the session.

Personally, pretty much no girl admits she's from NK.

So more like 'other mongers who do speak Korean, word' for me. They all can be bs'ing, there is that possibility.

Do many admit theyre from NK to you guys?

Well said, Rocket! I totally agree.

I wonder if any Kmongers decide not to see a certain Kgirl because she came from north of the DMZ.

So, there's a Kgirl, real pics with just a little blur on the face, real age range 28 to 30 and great service.
It's in about 25 reviews from other guys you trust, but she's from NK!  

So he'll take a pass, but then he gets the Black Syphilis from a southern Kgirl and he is sent to the island to die*, risks from a lot of corners in this game

 
I mean WTF, the reviewer makes it sound like NK is in the 17th century, maybe not even that advanced^^!
You guys said it, they don't come straight from the north and I'm pretty sure they learn something in the start of the P4P life and more as they get into it.
Also, as it been said many times, the USA ain't the first whistle stop on their adventure!

*Nam era BS!

Only one has done that with me, and asked I not share the information. But then a number of the K-girls like to say they are from Seoul but I don't think they all come from there. I'd be surprised that of all the K-girls I've seen only 4 really were not from Seoul -- they may have moved there but I suspect for more than those 4 their hometown was somewhere else.

as an ABK myself, i would say that its easy to discern the accent right away, but some have completely assimilated in south korea for decades so their accent is completely gone. maybe because i was born here, i dont care that their NK. ive actually had the best sessions with these freaky NK's that it doesnt bother me. most of them are very sweet caring. if they speak pretty decent chinese, its a good chance they are. most of them went to china, through SE asia then went to SK as a child/teen.

Yeah. Seoul and/or Busan (much rarer) is all I hear. I think it's just the easiest town to mention to mongers especially if you're a white American. Everyone knows Seoul. I never even heard a small village or a small city being said. Which, given the sample size that is quite big at this point, you'd think we'd eventually stumble upon.

If memory serves, in over decades of Kgirl encounters, I can recall only one instance in which a kgirl openly claimed to be from North Korea—though I could never be certain whether she was being candid or merely teasing. That said, I would estimate that more than half of my dates have, in fact, been with girls originating from the North.

This insight comes not from idle speculation but from conversations with local bookers, fellow Kgirl acquaintances, and hobbyist friends of Korean heritage. Several have even remarked that, on average, South Korean girls tend to be slightly taller than their Northern counterparts. Consequently, when encountering profiles listing heights of 5'0", 5'1", or under 5'2", there is a fair likelihood that the woman hails from the North.

As for me, whether she comes from the North or the South has never been of particular consequence—provided she is attractive, alluring, and possesses a pleasant disposition.

Yeah, it's obvious that on average women in Seoul are taller than 5' 5" but I still see many who are in the 5' - 5'4" range as well. So, might just be that we see more shorter K-girls in the US because taller ones are more popular, or have more opportunities in general, in Korea than a shorter woman. [adding -- also height is also going to be highly associated with family socio-economic level -- richer, better fed and better health growing up -- so much less likely to need to think about this type of work.]

 
I'm with you on not caring if she is from the north or from the south. But the OP's post suggesting what was claimed is just racists BS I think.

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About half of the RoK's population lives in the greater Seoul metropolitan area, so it should not surprise anyone that most girls we meet would answer that they're from Seoul.  With that said, I've met at least one girl who was proud to respond that she hails from Busan.

Even if 80% of Korean population was from Seoul, math just doesn't add up.

If you have seen 20 different kgirls and they all told you they're from Seoul, the probability of that being true (with aforementioned 80/20 instead of 50/50) would be

0.8^20...which would be just over 1%.

And with 10 it would be just over 10%, which is very unlikely.

 
Yet they just tell everyone they're from Seoul.

Again, not really holding thar against them just saying it's extremely improbable

brought up before.
So, do we need a NK Kgirl Board and a SK Kgirl Board?

 
To me, it's like guys worrying if a Kgirl is 25 or God forbid 26 and past retirement.
A few pounds, like 3, different than her stats or she lived a long time in Japan, is Korean, but her profile says Japanese.

IMO, If the girl is good looking and has good service that's a win in my book!  
I don't care about nitpicking, and I see that as a better and easier way to enjoy them!

NK and SK boards? LOL I though it was decided we only need to Seoul-Girl board

 
But agree with you on the nitpicking the escort. Those that need to, fine. It's their lives but I really try to find what is working in each session rather than focus on something that might be predictably off as long as it is not too far out of my expectation range. Oddly, I find if I try focusing on the good things, not the bad things, my day is always better and my life much better overall. Not always possible but definitely need to set some line where you can say "don't sweat the small stuff".

"or she lived a long time in Japan, is Korean, but her profile says Japanese"

This might not be a big deal to you or me, but this might matter a lot to someone who speaks or is natively Korean or Japanese.

For a lot of Asian people, nationality race etc matters a lot more than it does for us.  

 
If someone is Japanese and they see a Japanese girl advertised and they go in and they see it's really a Korean girl who speaks Japanese with a heavy accent, I will sympathize if they're unhappy about it. This could have been avoided if she wasn't marketed as Japanese.

 
Same goes for.... if it's a Korean dude who thought he'd see a Japanese girl and who maybe didn't want to speak Korean during a session. Now he realizes it's a Korean girl who only not looks Korean but also speaks his language.

 
Bottom line is, customers are all different and what you may consider a nitpick may be a deal breaker for someone else. I have known a guy who would walk out on kgirls if their boobs were manmades. Doesn't matter how they looked or how good they were in bed. He'd only see girls who were natty and when the ad lied he'd walk out and then write an unhappy reviews. Did he have the right to do so if the girls were advertised as having natural tits?

 
I'm with you about service, badger. But many people won't be with us. And that's fine.  

 
If you are a girl. If you have mms and not naturals would it be so difficult to never advertise you got naturals? Yes you would lose some clients who never see mm girls. But you will also avoid a lot of disappointed people if you just advertise the truth. Or "first time in USA" girl when I look at her pics and she's just a rebrand.

worked for years in the salon business speak some Japanese out of business necessity.  After native Koreans, the second highest volume of customers at salons are Japanese businessmen.  

is ruining their sessions and maybe looking bad to the girls and Bookers.
Always sniveling about something and having buyer's remorse.
Before you jump on me^^, I'm not talking about any legit type of issues.  
And all of that Which just might make me look better as a customer.

 

I've had a few conversations where I've been told about difficult clients.
No specifics, just general this happened the other day.

 
I know Asians can hate other Asians, maybe they should see other providers that aren't Asian, there's a whole bunch out there!

 
And yeah, I agree, everyone should be truthful.

a large number of NK girls starting around 2017 and continuing through the present.  As you say, the accent is a giveaway, and there have been many NK girls that were outed by their roommates due to their accents.  The most prolific (as far as seeing the most customers in a two-year period) LA legend who was NK was Megan.  Her story of escaping through China from NK to SK is remarkable.  

 
We had a long history, and I was the last customer she saw before she retired, which sadly means all of her reviews after my last review of her are fake.  She met a guy while living and working in MDR who did not know she was a working girl and left the business to live with him.  (She had already done this with a Seattle tech mogul before she changed her name to Megan and came to LA, so it was familiar territory for her to be a trophy girlfriend.)

They are bigger risk-takers than SK girls, but still take good care of their business equipment.  After all, the most common STD's sideline a girl for 10-12 days, which is a huge financial loss for them as opposed to what they make if they are working those days.  

 
The higher risk tolerance is due to the fact that many of these girls had harrowing (and sometimes near-fatal) experiences just getting out of NK, so STD's are not a big concern for them, as they have often been abused and beaten during their escape and are just happy to be alive and working in the US.  They do the shower inspection just like most SK girls do, which will generally catch 90%+ of any STD's due to the visual symptoms.  

 
Even giving full faith to this reviewer, he has been in the biz five minutes and has five reviews to show for it.  That's hardly enough of a sample or experience on his part to draw conclusions about a whole classification of girls.  Unfortunately, we see that a lot in P4P, and not just with Kgirls.  Guys with a dozen or two reviews are telling people how the business works, and it's apparent from what they say that they don't have a clue due to lack of experience.  

I don't know what the minimum number of reviews is to give a reviewer credibility but you can't say it's got to be more than a couple of dozen. Because that rules out other experience he may have that's relevant. For example...,
1) You have no idea how many other girls he's seen and NOT reviewed for one reason or another.
2) He may also have had experiences with street girls at various times and place or girls in cathouses where it's not possible to review.
3) He may have overseas experience that's relevant where it's also impossible to meet TER's criteria for a review.
And so on.

Yeah they can speak some Japanese. But they shouldn't be marketed as Japanese just because they can speak it. That's my point.

You don't see Korean girls marketed as Latina girls even though some of them know some Spanish.

But who gets to decide what's nitpicking and what's not?

Like I've said, what may be not important to you or me, could be of outmost importance to others.

So if having natty tits is a must, how can something like that be considered nitpicking?

 
Yeah Im not sure I agree. If the overall vibe is positive, nitpicking won't ruin the perception. If the "nitpicks" were serious enough to warrant buyers remorse then they aren't really nitpick are they?  

 
I don't know man. As a consumer consumes more and more service/product, he naturally becomes more selective and picky. Perhaps this game has jaded me as well. When you're new and all everything and everyone looks great. Then after a while after you have seen hundreds of girls and you understand how the game is played, what the "meta" is etc. it's hard to get moved by baseline service only. You start taking things for granted.

 
There are a lot of mongers in my area, for example, that simply refuse to pay for upcharges for bb or msog. Because historical we've had many years where all orgs had all inclusive rates. And many guys won't do upcharges because of principle.

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Maybe putting words in your mouth (or on your screen as it were) but I took your comment to be about some people who seem to loose sight of the forest for the tree by focusing on some small thing that really isn't that big of a deal even to them. In the process they loose sight of the good things that are going on, or could be going on if not for the nitpicky tunnel vision they managed to lock into.

 
As for the haters/racists, which I would differentiate from those who just have preferences, I really don't care. As for having preferences, sure it can be a expectations shock but just how serious is it really. We're starting to see some Latino/Hispanic girls showing up at some of the K-agencies here. Would I be surprised if I booked an appointment with someone I thought was going to be Korean and a Latina opened the door. Sure. But if she was attractive and personable I would probably blow that off (though would make some comments to the booker about the ad) and look to have the best session I could rather that keep some stubborn attachment to my first preference. It's a good way to increase the number of enjoyable sessions rather than reducing the number of enjoyable sessions I get to have.

I dont know exactly how you book, but I, for example, book specific girls and have specific expectations. I don't just book someone randomly because I decide to throw a dart at the dart board because I felt horny.  

 
I pay not for just some time with some woman. I pay for specific services with a woman I want, as I have chosen her from the ads. This isn't choosing preference of whether I want paper or plastic bag for my groceries. It's not a favor I get. I pay for something and I expect a product or service matching what or who I paid for.  

 
"stubborn attachment to first preference" is negative connotation and basically pretty much blames the consumer for something he should be rightfully unhappy about.

 
For the love of God, I could never understand the seller attitude of "you should be grateful for us even existing" and customers who support this make even less sense.

 
Many people dislike engaging in sexual intercourse with certain races. Racist? Likely. But again, scheduling with someone who you want to have sex and then seeing someone who you don't want to have sex with, and then acting like it's merely "stubborn preference" is pure nonsense.

Many Asian mongers I know don't like sex with Latina or Black girls. I'm not gonna judge them for their preference. But to think they should be grateful and try to make a winning hand out of a losing hand, even if they don't enjoy having sex with them, is pretty crazy.

they get away with claiming they are Japanese.  They get marketed by the booker as Japanese girl, and then some monger who speaks a little Japanese vouches for her being Japanese in a review.  I agree they should not do it, but once the reviewers start saying she is legit Japanese, it's a little hard to un-ring that bell.  

 
One of the top girls ever to work in OC was half Japanese from her father and half Korean from her mother.  She was raised speaking both languages, so she could converse in either one.  She was "discovered" shortly after coming to the US working as a hostess in a Las Vegas Japanese restaurant and was talked into coming to OC to work at an incall.  She left the business when she married an American attorney, just like a few other Kgirls have.  

become a factor when they start telling others how the business operates and get most of it wrong.  The most egregious are the ones who insist Kgirls are trafficked.  Others are just so inexperienced that they don't know how the girls get here or where they get their experience before becoming a US Kgirl.  Seeing Street girls provides little insight into Kgirls because there aren't any.  Most Kgirls use bookers.  A few do their own booking, but it's a rarity.  None work the street corners, so not sure what you mean by "other experience that is relevant" to Kgirls.  

Another aspect of the Q came up around 5 years ago:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girls-113/re-bbfs-24078
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/world/asia/north-koreans-toil-in-slavelike-conditions-abroad-rights-groups-say.html
North Korea Exports Forced Laborers for Profit, Rights Groups Say
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http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog/north-korean-workers-earn-millions-their-government-overseas
North Korean Workers Earn Millions for their Government Overseas  
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Has anything changed since that 5 yo thread? Does the NK gov traffic NK-girls into the biz? (They keep the families in NK as hostages to extort cooperation and funneling of money back to the NK government.)

to me.
Posted about it awhile back.
It was just a mix up when the Bookers didn't coordinate the girls for the right customer.
And I was about to walk, but then thought about what happened because I saw this other client at the door and I hung back for a minute.

But if I went to see a Kgirl and it was anything but, that's a bait n switch in my book and I am gone.

Well, IMO, me!
I decide because it's MO about it.
Not asking or needing anybody to back me up or join in, it's just how I see it, Rocket.

 
Yeah, and Snickers bars used to be a nickel and bigger.
Those guys are down here too, guys are hoping to bring the prices down by not seeing those girls, or cover up which is less of a risk, and some girls have changed their rates.
But where it was $280 then, the bottom line is about $320 now.
And a lot of posts about that being a really good deal!

I'm curious on one point. The whole nitpicky thing is always going to be about where any given person draws the line for what is required/important and what is not critical but for whatever reasons someone fixates on and misses seeing a bunch of things they actually would like. In other words, letting a small thing ruin having a good session.

 
So are you saying if you showed up to an appointment with a K-girl and a J-girl, a Thai-girl, a V-girl or a C-girl (or any other Asians) opened the door you're walking. If you don't quite notice the discrepancy at the start but within the first couple of minutes before any actually gets started the fact is disclosed you are walking?

 
I get some people will do that. And if that is them, they should. But for me, I'm really there to have sex with a woman I think is attractive and who will at least put the effort in to make it appear she actually enjoys spending some time with me and having sex with me. (I don't have to believe that is a fact but I want that effort made in a relatively credible way). So for me when the door opens even if it's not someone that matches the ad, and m expectations based on the ad and prior experience with the agency, I'll be surprised but I'm willing to take a look to see if there seems to be a good opportunity (i.e., I find the woman attractive and one I would want to have sex with). The old saying about one should always listen/look at some opportunity -- doesn't mean you need to pursue it but if you're not even willing to consider the opportunity you miss a lot.

Being from the US how would I know if the girl is from North or South Korea?  I can't tell accents apart.  They don't talk enough for me to really ask.  The few girls I've seen several times still don't share much.  Only one or two girls are fluent, or are willing to speak, English with me above and beyond basics.

But that's exactly my point. You deciding for other mongers what is nitpicking to them, is somewhat lacking empathy for mongers and their rights and feelings, don't you think?  

 
If it's something that they consider a must and can't enjoy sex without it, but is considered a nuisance and nitpick by you, there is a clear dissonance. Unless you're paying for their sessions, how can you talk for them whether or not they nitpick? How can you decide for them what's important to them?

All are all used to mask customers dissatisfaction and normalize bait and switch.

Same shit as "sex is like pizza when it's bad it's good" nonsense. Maybe it's true when it's free pizza or sex but even then not likely. Certainly not true if it's pizza or sex you paid for.  

 
You order a steak at a restaurant and then are served carrots instead. When asked why did you get served carrots instead of steak you ordered, the waiter replies, annoyed, that you have a stubborn first preference and should explore the "opportunity" of munching on carrots.

 
Do you think many customers would be elated to have such "opportunity"? And then when they complain about being served something entirely different, they are labeled as nitpickers.

 
Do you think this is a sustainable business model in a service industry? If not why is this being applied to p4p?

Well to address your last question which really has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make, it certainly seems that was as you've been here for over 5 years on your crusade, and by your own claims doing so longer, and what has changed? The agencies (Asian and otherwise) keep doing the same things and making plenty of money. And, your not the only person that points out these things -- both on the boards and in reviews. For independents sometimes you see rebrand efforts (just a name and pic change but not really a practice change) but generally the agencies just keep doing what they were doing and still have customers return unless they are too bad. Too bad being defined as market refuses to accept it and the agency doesn't make money.

 
To the point, neither opportunity nor some stubborn attachment to some largely secondary item for some emotional reasons of some sort are not used to justify anything. They were used to illustrate a situation where some people seem to be shooting themselves in the foot. Rather than focusing on what reality is they want to focus on what their fantasy and what they hope/wanted to believe they would get. The when the contrast between the fantasy and realty hits they seem unable to see the reality, only the difference between reality and fantasy.  

 
One guy here said he walked because the girl was not the one in the ad pic but that he would have booked with. That is a very principled thing to do and I can respect someone that is both principled and clear about what they are doing. The problem with a lot of nitpicky people, in my experience dealing with them in my life (and even in a critical assessment of some of my own decisions), is they are blind to the reality. In other words, these are the guys that would be so worked up about the difference that they don't even recognize that it is someone they would have booked with in difference circumstances. I choose to use the extreme examples to make the point a bit more clearly rather than looking for some trivial thing that most people would just say "Who will care about that".  

 
But if you're having a hard time following here, consider this hypothetical. Guy sees and ad for some escort, makes appointment and when the door opens she looks a little different. The hair style is not the same, makeup is different, wearing a different outfit. He gets all upset because the picture in his head is different from the girl in front of him. Maybe he walks, claim some sill bait-n-switch or maybe he goes on with the appointment but spends all the time he is there focused on how she is different from the ad pic and has a poos session.  

 
This is an emotion laden activity and, while many handle it well, many don't seem to and when emotions about things are high most people seem to be poor critical thinkers and allow a lot of their biases and knee-jerk reactions to dominate their thoughts. Those that "handle it well", I claim, will have more good sessions than those that don't. Those who 'handle it well" will also be able to write more accurate, honest and objective reviews.

I would give that restaurant two months tops - and that's if their carrots are exquisite. If their carrots are trash, I'd give it less than a month..

 
You know why? Because people don't like being given something else when they ordered something specific. With their hard earned money. It isn't a motherfucking game.  

 
But with you, you even have a problem explicitly agreeing that this is wrong. That it is WRONG to advertise a jgirl - who'd often have  higher upcharge rates than a kgirl - only to fimd out she's a kgirl.

I get it. You don't want to do public judgment on agencies. For whatever stupid reason.

But what gets me is then you make up these garbage words to try to normalize the situation.

And then, yet - you have zero problem judging mongers. How in the world are you able to say that

"the problem with a lot of nitpicky people, in my experience dealing with them in my life"?  

And yet never criticize agencies or girls for lying? This is why you always exude double standards. You never empathize with mongers. Never. Even though you aren't a shill or an agency promoter, your tactics are very similar. Your sympathy is always with girls or agencies who lie, instead of mongers who get upset they were lied to.  

 

You literally don't know what they want. You can't relate to them because you are a blind optimist and when given a lemon you don't even acknowledge it's a fucking lemon, but rather you want to focus on making it work. The question shouldnt be how to make it work. The question should be why were you given a fucking lemon??? You didn't ask for it. This is fraud.  

 

Hey Jensen, if a customer paid for a steak and is given something else, he is entitles to a wrath. He doesn't have to do jack shit. This is the sellers problem - the restaurant, the chef it doesn't even fucking matter - it's always the sellers problem. Maybe start with acknowledging that. This is no tango. The only reason why this horseshit behavior is tolerated is because people are too pussy to stand up for it and alienate themselves and be bld from pussy supply. You know it well.

 

"Those who 'handle it well" will also be able to write more accurate, honest and objective reviews."

 
Once again, who the fuck decided youre the barometer of how well someone handles anything? What gives you the ability to judge what mongers consider important and what their expectations are? You're the same person who thinks there shouldn't be number/grade evaluations in public reviews, right? Everyone gets a gold star sand everyone is happy! We'll everyone except mongers, but who gives a shit about them right?  

The customer has a full right to write an emotion based review if they feel like they were fucked over. A review is as much a reaction to an experience as an evaluation.

Badger told you in no uncertain terms that he'd walk if he booked a kgirl and it wasn't a kgirl. And yet you're still asking him about whether he'd consider staying if (fill in the blank).

 
It's insane how much you think you know mongers and how much you judge them, yet absolutely refuse to judge any agency or girl when they do something clearly unethical and abrasive to the customer.

going to see a Kgirl and a Latina opened the door.
The Latina woman that I saw did not tickle my fancy at all!
As far as any J, T, C, or V girl that was good looking and won me over with her playful/sexy attitude of course I would stay.
I would stay and check out *any* sexy looking playful woman I was attracted to, but I would sound the Booker after about the B&S and say it worked out this time but let's not try it again.

 
Like Rocket, I book and go to see/check out a specific Kgirl from reviews and chatter and that is who I want to see.
This got me thinking, if it happens [and I hope it doesn't] I'll ask/tell the Booker/Kgirl I will stay for a discount session fee/donation.
Maybe that will get me a less expensive good time or at least not another B&S^^!

I went to check out a steak and a carrot opened the door^^!

 
I have been skimming the back and forth with you and Jensen about nitpickers, so maybe this isn't extatically correct.
The nitpicking I was talking about is guys expecting a D but get a C.
Thinking she will be 99lbs but it's 103. Real minimal differences.

Yes, nitpick is about making a big fuss over minor or irrelevant details. No need to rethink your understanding of nitpicks.
 

My "expect a K-girl but get a Latina" was conditioned on the idea I am looking to have great sex with women I find attractive - so while I may have booked the K-girl K was not a critical aspect of the booking.  Using the extreme example here was to highlight the point that everyone is going to draw their own line between what is critical and what is trivial or minor or secondary. As well as pointing out that those who do nitpick seem (based on their own reviews or statement) to sometimes lose sight of what their real priorities are in the heat of the moment.

Once again, according to whom?

Why should a paying customer give two shits what someone else thinks is minor or irrelevant. Did they pay for his session? Whoever paid for the session knows what they want. Don't tell them whether or not you think they're minor details or not.  

 
Yes when YOU pay for your session you only want sex with women you find attractive. When someone else pays for a session, they might have - I know, shocking, right? - a much more constrained criteria.

 
Again, you want to say that for you as long as it's a attractive woman who is going to have sex with you is all it takes, by all means. Who am I to tell you what's good for you?

But why are you trying to make it so it should be this way for everyone? I don't sign up just for anyone who's remotely attractive. This isn't a "choose your own adventure". I chose steak, not just some random food that will fill me up. And I want steak to be served because I paid for it.  

 
"an attractive woman who I want to have sex with" is a low bar. It works for you, great. I'm happy for you. It doesn't work for me. It's simply not enough for many people.

 
You want to say "keep your expectations low as dirt" then say so. But you won't because it implies the seller who's doing a disservice. You'd rather say dumb shit like "stubborn first preference" as if we're choosing which dress to put on a Barbie.

 
Hey this is an attractive woman why do you care what she is.

 
When I order Chinese food, I want Chinese food. I don't want second preference or third preference. They don't exist. I wanted Chinese and I went and ordered Chinese and I PAID for Chinese. Give me Chinese or get the fuck outta here. If I wanted Italian I'd go to different place that serves Italian food. I wouldn't even contact the Chinese place.

 
That's what customer is MORE than entitled to. That's what being a customer IS. A customer, not a beggar who will be content with whatever doable that is thrown his way.

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obsess much about my posts?

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...to highlight the point that everyone is going to draw their own line between what is critical and what is trivial or minor or secondary