Serious Q.
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It is really hard to get out of NK. It is known that NK sends workers to a few selected countries where they work in factories, restaurants, construction, etc., and their NK handlers confiscate most of their wages and send it back to the gov coffers. The workers (NK slave labor) can't complain because their families are held hostage back in NK.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/world/asia/north-koreans-toil-in-slavelike-conditions-abroad-rights-groups-say.html
North Korea Exports Forced Laborers for Profit, Rights Groups Say
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http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog/north-korean-workers-earn-millions-their-government-overseas
North Korean Workers Earn Millions for their Government Overseas
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Does anybody here know any real (authenticated) NK girls in the biz? Did they escape from NK or are they forced into the biz by the NK government. Are their agencies a mix of SK and NK girls or do the NK bosses try to set up an KMP or AAMP with all of their NK talent so they can keep tabs on them and take their earnings? "You had 8 customers today. Hand it over!" Whereas, if she does BBFS BCD the NK mama-san might not know or be able to prove it, so the girl can at least keep the bbfs fee bonus.
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Does anyone know how to "prove" that a hostess is from NK and not SK? Kind of like the old WWII spy-test: "Who won the World Series last year?" Was ist das? Huh? "Aha! A spy!"
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Just wondering what you guys think.
North Korean girls who were willing to take risks for more money is the reason for recent BBFS trend.
I missed TER for a long long time. I hadnt realized it came back.
So I'm looking through reviews since I'm back in LV for a few days and seeing a fair amount of bbfs reviews from k-girls in town.
God knows I love bb as much as the next guy. But man it seems insanely dangerous. Back in my 20's as a merchant marine we had bbfs all the time in So. Korea, Philippines, etc. But that was before aids also. Nobody worried about a simple case of the clap back then. We thought more with our dicks obviously.
God I'm tempted, but skeered to do also. Probably a good thing.
in the Kgirl scene, but prior to a few years ago, it was mostly kept UTR. My own stats over the past 12 years with hundreds of Kgirls were that 20% will do it with everybody, 20% will do it with nobody, and the other 60% were YMMV. But even the ones that would do it was everybody were not openly discussed on public boards. Lately, the number of girls who offer it to everybody has increased as a percentage off the whole.
About 3 years ago, openly advertising BBFS started in the bay area. It spread to SoCal about two years ago, after CityVibe and TER both went dark within a month of each other, there was chaos in the market and girls were desperate for business. Advertising BBFS in Vegas started about 18 months ago while TER was dark in the US. I'm not aware of BBFS being openly advertised in other parts of the country.
With that said, we each have our own level of risk tolerance, and how much danger was can accept and still enjoy ourselves. A lot of finding a comfort level depends on our personal situation. Guys with wives or in long-term relationships may be wise to think long and hard about whether to take a dip in the BBFS pool. Those that are single are usually a little more cavalier about the risks. As you mentioned, most bacterial infections can put you out of action for a few weeks until the meds run their course, and are at worst, an inconvenience. These are quite common in the BBFS scene. The ones that are life-changing are the viral STD's, HSV2 and HIV, which have no cure. Even though I'm single, these are the ones that concern me. I don't want to catch one of these and have it be a dealbreaker for some woman if I decide someday to marry again.
While I will admit that I have enjoyed BBFS with YMMV girls in the past, I just can't bring myself to see girls that are advertising BBFS openly. Its one thing to be one of a half dozen regulars with a girl that is giving each of us BBFS, its quite another to see a girl who is advertising openly who is doing BBFS with every swinging dick who walks through the door. The average BBFS girl may see, on average 120-150 unique customers a month, and each of those customer may see an average of 4-6 girls a month, so its easy to start crunching the numbers to see that, even with a low infection rate, the longer you are doing BBFS, the more likely you will get some STD's. I have had two several years ago, both times gonorrhea, easily cured with antibiotics within two weeks. I have also known several guys that got HSV2 from a Kgirl. In each case, they had to quit hobbying. There is always the concern that some guys would take the attitude that they've already got it, so now they have nothing to lose, and keep on going BB, even though they know they have it. I have not heard of anyone getting HIV from a Kgirl.
I have now gone back to GFE CFS. I'm dating a Kgirl outside as her real life boyfriend and she is the only one I do BBFS with. I feel safe with her because she is strictly covered service at the incall. I got a little miffed at her in the beginning because after we started dating, she told me I would have to use a condom if I saw her at work, because its disrespectful to her customers for me to CIP, so I only see her on weekends when she is off and some nights when she comes home from the incall early if its slow. I feel completely safe limiting my BBFS activities to just her. But like I said, each of us have to find our own level of risk tolerance, so while you can be a little scared, you should be able to decide for yourself if your personal situation is one that can include indulgence in BBFS and whether you can accept the risks that come with it.
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I think CDL summed it up pretty well. We all take risks when fucking hookers, it all depends on your risk tolerance, but a woman who openly advertises BBFS, especially a woman as "busy" as the typical K-Girl is likely to have had bare back sex with literally thousands of different men, most of whom who also would be considered VERY high risk themselves since they are actively seeking unprotected sex with prostitutes.
I am not judging, just pointing out some undeniable facts, we are all adults here (Except for a few obvious children on this board) and as adults we are all responsible for choosing how much risk we are willing to accept.
North Korean girls who were willing to take risks for more money is the reason for recent BBFS trend.
Serious Q.
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It is really hard to get out of NK. It is known that NK sends workers to a few selected countries where they work in factories, restaurants, construction, etc., and their NK handlers confiscate most of their wages and send it back to the gov coffers. The workers (NK slave labor) can't complain because their families are held hostage back in NK.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/20/world/asia/north-koreans-toil-in-slavelike-conditions-abroad-rights-groups-say.html
North Korea Exports Forced Laborers for Profit, Rights Groups Say
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http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog/north-korean-workers-earn-millions-their-government-overseas
North Korean Workers Earn Millions for their Government Overseas
.
Does anybody here know any real (authenticated) NK girls in the biz? Did they escape from NK or are they forced into the biz by the NK government. Are their agencies a mix of SK and NK girls or do the NK bosses try to set up an KMP or AAMP with all of their NK talent so they can keep tabs on them and take their earnings? "You had 8 customers today. Hand it over!" Whereas, if she does BBFS BCD the NK mama-san might not know or be able to prove it, so the girl can at least keep the bbfs fee bonus.
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Does anyone know how to "prove" that a hostess is from NK and not SK? Kind of like the old WWII spy-test: "Who won the World Series last year?" Was ist das? Huh? "Aha! A spy!"
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Just wondering what you guys think.
North Korean girls who were willing to take risks for more money is the reason for recent BBFS trend.
Lunar New Year with my Kgirlfriend. Thought I would take a quick look at TER while she is showering and shaving her pussy for me, and your post caught my attention. What you're talking about is plain old human trafficking, and if you read your own links, I'm willing to bet there is no mention of NK exporting slave labor to the US, am I right? My understanding is that they are sent to Russia, China and Eastern Europe where the governments will turn a blind eye to the workers' predicament.
NK girls that have come as sex workers in the US have already done this kind of work elsewhere. The usual escape route for teenage NK girls is to the west into China, where they make their way to a large city and are quickly recruited as sex workers. The goal is to make enough to get to South Korea, where they can continue in sex work (and as a refugee from NK, get legal residency and a passport) where it pays better than China. Some will work awhile in Japan before coming to the US, and others will come directly from South Korea.
Once they get here, their life is the same as any Kgirl from South Korea. They have complete freedom to work where they want and when they want. They are money grubbers and have a work ethic that puts most South Korean girls to shame, and very few will spend their own many on designer shit like a lot of the SK girls do, but they will instead hustle their customers to bring them stuff. One NK girl I dated for awhile, who coincidentally lived in the most expensive Kgirl apartment I have been in to date, about $3800 for one bed, one bath with floor to ceiling windows overlooking Wilshire Blvd. in LA, (in Ktown). She had a huge closet the size of a second bedroom and was proud to show off all of the designer shoes, handbags and Jewelry she hustled her customers for, reaffirming to me that she would never spend her own money on stuff like this. Many NK girls that have been working here for more than 3 years have invested in rental real estate, which is their ticket out of the business once they have income coming in from four or five residential units that are paid off. By comparison, SK girls are less ambitious.
If you speak Korean, its easy to spot the ones that are from NK, according to their South Korean roommates, because they have an accent, sort of like people from the South in the US have a telltale accent. Usually, SK girls will tell me when they get a NK roommate. Every once in awhile, someone here asks if NK girls are sending their money back to the Supreme Leader. That's poppycock, they are putting it into rental units so they can get the fuck out of the sex industry and have a normal life. That's all on this subject for now. I have pussy waiting that's going to get cold before I can eat it. Lol
Don’t forget the girls that are sold into slavery in China for a few dollars. Those experiences have been documented as well. Some of them manage to escape from their owners. But still follow the sex work route to earn money to get away.
As CDL says, the SK girls will frequently tell you which girls are from North Korea. Many South Koreans look down on the North Korean refugees. I admit to having been quite surprised to see the truth of that the first time I visited Korea. South Koreans, in my experience, frequently tend to be quite xenophobic.
If you get to know a kgirl, she will tell you where she’s from. If she’s hesitant to do so? It’s very likely she’s a North Korean refugee. Again, this is if you get to know her and she trusts you. If she doesn’t trust you, even a South Korean girl won’t want to tell you where she’s from.
But even if the topic of where she’s from never comes up, it’s not that hard to spot a North Korean girl most of the time. It’s not just the work ethic. There are other signs. Still, why should any of us care if the girl is from NK or SK? If you’re developing a personal relationship, you’ll find out. If nothing else, you’ll definitely know when it comes time to meet her family. Otherwise, I think all we really need to know is if we enjoy what she’s offering enough to see her once or if she’s a repeat.
Yes, I have known kgirls from North Korea. They’re just folk.
Some have said the subject line might be one of the tells.
But unlikely you could tell the difference -- except perhaps if they seem a bit more calculating, opportunistic or lacking in empathy for others. As CLD says, if you really speak Korean like a native born person you will notice a difference. My understanding is that is is more then merely accent. Words are a bit different in some cases.
You can find the same here in the USA. If you wanted to hear speech patters that are like that spoken in the colonial and early period of the USA go to deep Appalachia. They have been rather isolated from the changes in the rest of the country and preserved those culture and patterns. Same seems to be true of North Korea when compared to the South.
One thing you can check for though, look on the inside of the left butt cheek. There will be a small Kim Jong Un "little fatty" tattoo. That's so they can show their loyalty by always sitting on the leaders face.
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differences in some of the way words and phrases are used. Its similar to the difference between Spanish spoken in Spain compared to that spoken in Mexico. They can understand each other, but the speakers from each country will know that the other is not from their country.
This is just to feed the fantasy, but would love to hear from someone who tried Ji's and Chanel's "double bbfs" from Little Tokyo. Was it really from one to the other and no change in covers since it's all BBFS ormaybe cleanings in between?
Provides that rare opportunity to get two DIFFERENT STD's during the same session. Might be a bucket-list item for those hooked on BBFS. Lol
Yes, there have been plenty reviews of these types of sessions. Most in SoCal occur at the Palace. There is no "cleaning" in between. You can stack the pussies and go back and forth until you unload into one of them. If you are MSOG-capable, you can blast into the other one as well. I've only done covered doubles, but there are plenty of reviews that give an accurate blow-by-blow of the sessions.
Is you don't talk about BBFS. That aside, I'm glad CDL stepped up and gave an excellent overview.
I myself noticed an uptick in offerings the end of 2019 when KAMPS made a slow comeback from FOSTA.
Like CDL, I'm a little worried about ladies who advertise it openly.
But, it's an unlikely time .. you're taking a huge risk seeing a provider as it is .. during peak COVID, I had a session where we both wore masks, did DS, and were done in 10min ..
Did you write a review of the ten minute session? Lol