K-girls

Re: Occam's razor says the hypothesis with least assumptions should be favored
team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 3877 reads
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1 / 49

Lmao. How is this fair?

http://ktownescort.com/lucky-(nuru)-

 
I guess at least it's written down, but why would you ever engage with an org who has such scum rules?

Any emergency on your end and you get BLd, including bl possibly extending to other orgs? Lol.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 94 reads
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2 / 49

So does that mean people are OK with an org openly saying they will blacklist you for cancelation?

 
Say it aint so....

badger48 125 Reviews 86 reads
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3 / 49

in the confirmation text they sent it read, "please don't cancel 1 hour before". Second part was (We'll block you if you cancel 3 times).

Yes, a 1 time cancel, and you're blocked is not a way to run a business, maybe it's scare tactics!
   
I haven't been back since August, so I don't know what they put in their text messages, now.

Canned_Ravioli 16 Reviews 87 reads
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4 / 49

I went to the page, and it says they "reserve the right (sp)" to refuse service and blacklist.  That isn't the same thing as "openly saying they will" do anything.  My neighborhood liquor store has a sign that says they have the right to refuse service to anyone, I don't think this is that different.  I might disagree with ranking cancellation above crime or video, but it isn't my business to make that policy.  I know the board has been slow recently, but you really are grasping for straws here.  

cks175 44 Reviews 69 reads
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5 / 49

Getting blocked after three cancellations is reasonable.  The wording on their webpage could be better, but as usual, Rocket is overreacting.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 74 reads
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6 / 49

It very well could just be a clear statement of a fact (clearly without making the statement they still can refuse service and BL anyone they want for any reason they want) perhaps to make some that have been more difficult customers -- say frequently cancelling, or as you note other more serious acts -- that they don't have any *right* to the services.

 
It's not like you never see those types of "reserve the right to refuse" clauses used with other businesses.

-- Modified on 12/30/2021 12:55:27 PM

useyrhead 4 Reviews 75 reads
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7 / 49

I’ve seen very similar text in confirmation messages from other orgs over the years. To me this is neither shocking or new.

 
Back when I was just getting started as a monger, I was asking the more senior guys who seemed to really have it dialed for guidelines to follow in order to provide the greatest chance of success.  

 
One of those guidelines was to try to never cancel. But, if you canceled on the same day of the appointment you should still pay for that appointment. The couple of times I actually followed that advice the manager told the booker to tell me to keep my money and just avoid doing it again.

 
This kind of cancellation policy is quite common outside of the mongering world. Though the cancellation fee has been waived for me in the rare cases as well. Except one accountant I worked with.

CENZO1 162 Reviews 103 reads
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8 / 49

We all have to take into account the type of business that’s involved. There’s a big difference between a personal service appointment where a specific time is reserved exclusively for you, and one where you are just one of a number who have the same time slot. In the former, there is usually a loss of income, whereas in the latter there probably isn’t.

In addition, we need to identify the difference between a true emergency and something that just creates an inconvenience.

asianprince 141 Reviews 90 reads
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9 / 49

Lately they don't really have a much of roster so I don't think guys will miss them too much.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 102 reads
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10 / 49

Tell me, do you think it's *ever* OK to bl for a cancellation?

 
Yes, they "reserve the right" aka "we'll do whatever the fuck we want to if we feel like it".

Why would someone ever ri$k it with such a policy?

Let me ask you again just so I don't misunderstand.  

You're seemingly OK with this language and you think that a blanket policy that allows them to bl even if you have an emerg_ency, is ok with you? Or do you think the policy is only worded as such and not enfol0rced?  

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-- Modified on 12/30/2021 3:53:28 PM

Gaijin64 6 Reviews 108 reads
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11 / 49

I'm surprised you take this so seriously.  They've always been able to BL anyone for anything, so I'm not sure why folks are just waking up to this.  

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 95 reads
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12 / 49

"clearly without making the statement they still can refuse service and BL anyone they want for any reason they want)"

So does this mean you agree with it? Basically that they make the rules and they can do whatever they want and bl anyone for as much as looking at them sideways?  And their word is the fucking law?  

 
If so, it explains why you're never able to call a shit practice a shit practice.

-- Modified on 12/30/2021 4:48:11 PM

Canned_Ravioli 16 Reviews 80 reads
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13 / 49

If you really think this policy is radically different from the sign in the mini mart or my barber has in her shop, I don't know what to say.  I respect the right of both my barber and this org to run their businesses how they like.  You seem to think that just because a private business is open they are obligated to serve everyone, I don't agree with that.  I say grasping for straws because you are making the jump from "reserve the right to blacklist" and saying that automatically means you will be blacklisted even if you have an emergency.  If you are a good client, I honestly don't think that would happen but even if it does, it is their business and not mine.  It probably does happen once in a while but not to good clients, most likely if a guy is generally a pain in the ass but hasn't had any previous infractions.  At the end of the day, you can just choose not to do business at this place if you don't like their policy.  It doesn't bother me, just like it doesn't bother me when I go get a haircut.  

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 81 reads
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14 / 49

My barber shop doesn't have a sign that says it will blacklist me if I cancel. Moreover, I know that even if they refuse to serve me, they are not going to go to every single barber shop in the metro area and tell them to also not serve me.

 
Maybe your barber shop does. You show me at least three such instances across all barber shop in the US and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, sorry, false equivalency.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 101 reads
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15 / 49

to one of the most-read posts (nearly 10,000 reads) on this board.  I wrote it four years ago and it's still just as valid today.  Read number 6 for the parameters on excess cancellations.  

 
Obviously, if you have a history of being reliable, and you have to cancel, they are not going to BL you.  If it's your first appointment with an agency, and you cancel on short notice, or NCNS, you may not be allowed a second chance to book. Last minute cancellations usually mean that time-slot goes unfilled.  This costs the booker AND the girl money.  Either or both of them may not be excited about scheduling you again.  

 
This is an example of you always trying to view things in a binary way.  It's either one way for the other for you, and that's why you always have a hard-on for orgs.  There is a lot of gray area in between on this topic, but you are unable to figure it out on your own.  Many here have tried to explain it to you, but you are too closed-minded to accept explanations other than your own about what these messages from the bookers really mean.  I turn down business all the time from clients who are think are not worth having.  I don't give them a statement that says I will drop them for whatever reason, but I do have a small jar sitting on my desk that they can't help seeing that says, "Ashes of Problem Clients."  They get the message, so I never have to say anything more about my expectations if they want to do business with me.  Why is what you are describing any different?  They have the absolute right to do business with anyone they want, and vice versa.

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 79 reads
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16 / 49

Absolutely cdl. Great post. Every business I've ever owned or managed has fired or blacklisted clients who we have had a problem with. And it's our decision. Virtually every business does it. And good businesses share information with other similar businesses. Try to get car insurance after having 3 or 4 at fault accidents. You can't, or it's prohibitively expensive. Why? Because auto insurers share claims information. There's a uniform database. Same with health insurers, property insurers and title insurers. Heck, try to see a good doctor or lawyer after you've sued another doctor or lawyer for malpractice. Even country clubs and yacht clubs. Get thrown out of one and the entire local community knows you're a problem member and the other clubs will blacklist you too. That's the only tool that businesses that deal with the public have to keep out the clients and potential clients that they deem to be not good for their business or reputation.
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On the other hand, if you're a good customer businesses will provide good references for you that will assist you in being accepted by other similar businesses when the need arises.
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The moral of the story: keep your word, treat people nicely, show up on time, do what you promise to do, and pay your bills and you'll do well with any business, including KOrgs. Do the opposite at your own peril.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 79 reads
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17 / 49

No wonder there is only one person who participates in this forum that doesn’t get it. Maybe someday he will, too.

 
I won’t hold my breath.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 168 reads
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18 / 49

I've never seen an org openly write this before.

 
I've never seen an org openly threaten bl for cancelarion before. Because bl in korg world isn't just for one biz, its for all biz. Even orgs who threaten bl for bad reviews do it privately as to not get kicked off sites liek this one.  

 
And, btw they took that statement down - so complaining about it clearly worked.  

 
I don't think it's fair in any way to bl for cancel. Make you pay for it and if you don't then bl - sure. As long as you announce it. Bl for cancel and especially saying it is more important than filming or c_rime is just extremely and utterly petty

 

Considering that I don't know of any org that doesn't bl for filming that girl is unaware of or mistreating a girl, or c_rime, logically it follows that if they think cancel is worse, you would get bl for cancel in any case.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 100 reads
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19 / 49

that post aged very well ;-)

 
I have to say if holds even more value than I gave it at the time.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 86 reads
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20 / 49

Take a look at LSC rules about time and cancelation:

Be on time
Please commit to the time that is agreed upon. Cancellation within 2 hours of the appointment is undesirable. Once your appointment is confirmed, you will receive a detailed instruction. Be sure you read and fully understand the instructions. Plan ahead for traffic and time to find parking. If you are running late, please notify our Phone Operators. We would try our best to accommodate the lost time but be expected to finish at the same time.
 

http://2020lsc.com/candy-101/

 
You're told exactly the threshold of cancellation. You're not told you'll be blacklisted but rather hinted that it's undesirable and they won't be happy but not necessarily that doors will be closed for you everywhere. It's like it's written by someone who actually understands and respects a customer.  

 
I'm not even a member of lsc, but which org would you want to be part of? Where do the rules sound more clear and understanding of customers flies off the screen as you read it? Rhetorical question, really.  

 
LSC or org that writes
Please remember this before you visit us.

WE RESERVCE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE & BLACKLIST ANYONE WHO DOES ANYTHING BELOW

 

No Drug. No Toy. No Crime. No Video Recording

and most importantly, NO CANCEL
?

-- Modified on 1/5/2022 6:37:50 PM

useyrhead 4 Reviews 76 reads
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21 / 49

We have this one guy who, like the Lorax, “cares a whole awful lot” about k-girl marketing and business practices.

 
I’d like to put in a vote for giving this guy his very own “Kgirl Agency Marketing & Business” group. Maybe there he can do another kgirl pricing study to help the agencies figure out how far they can raise their prices again. Or start threads criticizing web site wording and photo publishing like he’s doing right now. He can even advertise for interested participants here in the actual kgirl forum where most guys are just looking for the best info to help them do better at getting laid by a k-girl.  

 
Not sure where his questions about monger dick size belong though.

 
Can I get anyone to second the motion?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 64 reads
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22 / 49

on my list where bookers went to the trouble to alert other bookers of a blacklist.  Those are physical abuse, and "stiffs and shorts."  Abuse if self-explanatory, and any guy who doesn't pay the full rate (except when he's getting a do-over from the booker for a bad experience, in which case he may be getting a discount of $20 to $100 from the house share.  The girls still gets her full rate.) when he leaves will find that within a couple of hours, he won't be able to book anywhere in that city.  Everyone will have his name and phone number very quickly.  

 
I have never heard of a booker contacting other orgs for excessive cancellations, although I suppose it's possible.  That type of offense seems to be contained within the org where it happened when it comes to a block/blacklist, so unless you committed multiple sins, which is pretty hard to do in the case of a no-show/late-cancel, I would not worry too much about the BL extending beyond that org.  

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 76 reads
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23 / 49

Every instance of filming I've heard the guy would get BLd from everywhere too.

 
Hence why cancelations don't even belong in the same sentence with filming or cr_ime, much less deemed more important than those. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

badger48 125 Reviews 176 reads
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24 / 49

Hey Rocket, I just looked on their site, from my computer and phone, and the statement is still up for Lucky.

 
It's not on the other girl's ads, maybe she's the one driving it to be on her ad and not the org!

 
I even followed the link a couple of times from this thread, and it shows up on her ad.

-- Modified on 1/6/2022 2:46:32 AM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 159 reads
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25 / 49

That also seems to suggest that the term blacklist in that ad is not being uses as some local area or wider banning but only for that particular girl -- not even an agency wide statement.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 171 reads
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26 / 49

Having it be for a particular girl explains a lot.

 
This practice where some girls have stricter policies than others, though not all that common, has been going on for a very long time. It was happening back in the bad old days of rouge livre.  

 
In my mind, every girl has to be free to determine what her limits are and how she wants to do business. If the business model works for her then it’s simply not a problem. If anyone doesn’t like her policies they can just see another girl.

 
Looking for feedback from the community:
As I said in my earlier post, I propose giving our R-Lorax his very own “Kgirl Agency Marketing & Business” group. Maybe there he can do another kgirl pricing study to help the agencies figure out how far they can raise their prices again. Or start threads criticizing web site wording and photo publishing like he’s doing right now. He can even advertise for interested participants here in the actual kgirl forum where most guys are just looking for the best info to help them do better at getting laid by a k-girl.  
 
Not sure where his questions about monger dick size belong though.
 
Can I get anyone to second the motion?

-- Modified on 1/6/2022 9:24:16 AM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 86 reads
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27 / 49

of a guy taking a photo and getting blacklisted by the GIRL, not the org, so your examples seem like outliers to me, but I will concede its certainly possible depending on the severity of the situation.  In the one example I gave, he was BL'd because he posted it on a board somewhere and the GIRL, not the org contacted the board and said it was unauthorized and without her knowledge.  As a result, he was also banned from that discussion board.   Anyone who wants a photo should just ask the girl for one.   If he's a good enough customer, he will probably get one.  That's usually reserved for regular customers.  I knew the girl, and saw the photo myself, so she is the one who told me how this went down.

 
You are making all kinds of assumptions based only on the WARNING given by the org to new customers.  Do you have ANY examples of how this played out for ANYONE with this org, or is this just an academic discussion.  You''re running around with your hair on fire over this and you haven't said that anyone has actually been BL'd on the FIRST cancellation.  Chronic cancellations will get you blocked, but your original point was that YOU interpreted this message to mean that someone who misses ONE appointment will be BL'd.  Any proof of that actually happening, or this just the rantings of a bunch of chicken littles that you know from somewhere else?

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 74 reads
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28 / 49
team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 70 reads
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29 / 49

It is back up. Interesting. Thank you for letting me know.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 62 reads
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30 / 49

You are the one making an assumption about chronic cancelation or whatnot. Nowhere on the website does it mention chronic (or singular, for that matter) cancellation.  

 
My only assumption is that what is posted by an org is what they will do. Assuming they are lying is not taking Occam's razor.  

 
It says clearly that they

1) consider cancel more important than other transgressions  

and it says  

2) "no cancel".

 
If it said "no chronic cancelations" we wouldn't ever be having this discussion. Ever.

 
In English language, the phrase  "no X" means no X of any kind.  

"No soliciting", for example, means no soliciting of any kind allowed, not even once. "No smoking" doesn't mean you have to be a chronic smoker. It means you can't fucking smoke. And in this case, you can't cancel. Not even once.  

 
I don't understand why I have to explain such obvious things to you.  

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-- Modified on 1/6/2022 2:32:04 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 61 reads
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31 / 49

most likely not a native English speaker or even one well educated in English.

 
No one disputed that the ad said No CANCEL it was the interpretation made of those words that everyone is really making assumptions about. The basic disagreement here is about what is a reasonable assumption to make. Should we really assume that whoever drafted that statement thinks a cancel is a more serious event than a beat down? Should we really assume that they have such a poor business grasp that they will give business to competitors for a one-time emergency?

 
You don't use Occam's razor properly. You want to use if the cut off anything that challenges your argument (which seems rather circular and driven by confirmation biases). Properly used, it cuts away less meaningful clutter to allow light to be shown on the core of a matter for clarity and understanding. You always invoke it to shade and remove what you don't like.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 87 reads
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32 / 49

The hypothesis with least assumptions when someone sees "no smoking" means that no smoking is allowed.

 
Likewise, the hypothesis with least assumptions when someone sees "no cancel" is that no canceling is allowed

 
This is a completely proper use of Occam's razor. Note that Occam's razor doesn't say that hypothesis chosen via using the razor will be the right one. It simply says that in competing ones, choose the one with least assumptions.  

 
The least assumptions hypothesis on a statement like this is that it means exactly what it says.  Whether you like it or not, and whether orgs like it or not, a hypothesis that says interpret a statemtn literally will always be chosen via Occam's razor against a hypothesis that tells you to read between the lines. That's how Occam's razor works, don't be mad at me for it.  

 
A hypothesis with more assumptions would be that an org has some degree of customer empathy and is able to discern between emergency and non-emergency situations, and therefore it would not bl a customer even if it says so in the statement. This is two extra assumptions.  

 
You also added an extra assumption in your last post that because they don't have great control of English language, they meant to write something else as opposed to the actual direct meaning.  That's three assumptions.  

 
I didn't use it to cut off any arguments. When I was accused of my viewpoint having any assumptions, I merely  commented that my take is the one that Occam's razor tells to use and has the least assumptions among the other viewpoints.

-- Modified on 1/6/2022 6:53:48 PM

useyrhead 4 Reviews 93 reads
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33 / 49

The subject header of the reply to him is incorrect.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 117 reads
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34 / 49

...drugs, toys, crime and video.  Yes, they say cancellation is the most important, but there is another reason as well.

 
The first four offenses can only occur while seeing the K-girl.  Therefore the org has just cause if they want to refuse future service or even blacklist the mongers who did those things.

 
But even if the "NO CANCEL" is so important to the org, there could be a very good reason for cancelling.  It's possible they would refuse future service to a new customer or even BL him if he cancels (even though that's a little harsh), but I can't see them cutting off or BL'ing a regular.  If they did that to a regular, the word would get out about THEM, and they wouldn't be in business for very long.

impposter 49 Reviews 118 reads
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35 / 49
36363jensen 4 Reviews 107 reads
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36 / 49

That is a lay person's (and uniformed to be honest) statement of the idea. Like most bumper stickers it's something of a half truth that gross over simplifies the concept.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Occams-razor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Occam's%20razor

All the links make clear that the key is not the "fewest" but limiting the factors to the essential ones.  Yes, one can, and it is often done, state that as you have. But if you then apply that without consideration for what is or is not important in the specific think you are trying to explain you are misapplying the principle.

 
In this case you want to toss out the knowledge we have related to who is likely to be writing the statement and what their command of the English language is. Again, demonstrating my claim you want to apply the razor in ways that suit your claim and not in ways that seek to get to some truth or better clarity regarding a situation.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 77 reads
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37 / 49

It could be that he actually doesn’t understand Occam’s Razor. And each of these explanations cause small shifts in his understanding.  

 
But has anyone ever seen a person with an IQ over 80 take this long to understand something? And not just this concept. But he drags on the “learning” process on so many things.  

 
Well, if you have kids you’ve seen this in preteens and teenagers. They will frequently trot out the most convoluted and ridiculous explanations for why they should get what they want.  

 
In science and other technical disciplines, Occam’s Razor is most commonly summarized as “the simplest solution/explanation is usually or frequently right” (note that it is not a hard rule - it’s just an admonishment to try to strive towards simplicity).  

 
Positing that something published on a website here and there represents an industry wide conspiracy to blacklist mongers who cancel is the opposite of simplicity.  

 
The explanation that it is the preference of a single girl - or small group of girls - is very simple.  

 
So, what’s the real explanation for rocket continually beating this dead horse? Using Occam’s Razor there are a few possible explanations. But one of the simplest and best fitting to the evidence is that he suffers with a rather severe case of narcissism. And all of the many rather nonsensical arguments he puts forth are there for the purpose of gratifying the needs of his pathology.  

 
Or, maybe he really is a teenager living in his parent’s basement who is making all of this stuff up.

-- Modified on 1/7/2022 8:38:52 AM

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 95 reads
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38 / 49

That is not the hypothesis. The hypothesis is that because they have bad command of the language, that they meant something else from what they wrote.  And that one is questionable at the very best.

 
Because the logic here is the following :ask yourself in any other situation if this is true. You go to another country where signs often have errors in English. You see a sign that says "no entering" or "no smoking". Is it correct to assume they meant something else because they have bad command of English language? Will you risk entering somewhere in China where it says so?  

 
Probably not. In the same vein, your logical leap from saying they have bad command of language to the assumption that they will not bl for some specific cancel is extremely poor and relies on assumptions.  

 
The simplest explanation with fewest assumptions is that what's written is exactly what's meant,once again. You could have an argument that if this were prose or a board post where there'd be some specific reason for someone to read between the lines. This is a specific "don't do this or you'll be hit with this" list.

 

The rest of what you said is redundant. Assumptions by definitions are things you assume, ie things you are not sure about.

 
And here, I'll read you directly from wikipedia for any assclown who says my definition is incorrect :

 
"This philosophical razor advocates that when presented with competing hypotheses about the same prediction, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions".

-- Modified on 1/7/2022 1:20:14 PM

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 87 reads
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39 / 49

Strawman? Lol. How pathetic. Same thing with saying my statement about Occam's razor is wrong where it is exactly the definition. One of my co-workers, a quite good developer, was a huge fan of Occam's razor and had posters of it all over his office.  

 

I never said my argument is " something published on a website here and there represents an industry wide conspiracy to blacklist mongers who cancel "

I didn't even mention anything about industry.  

My hypothesis  is quite simple -  

 
When an org posts on a website for everyone to see that they  will bl for cr_ime, filming and most importantly, cancel, it means that they mean it and they will do it.  

That's that. Just like anyone else who writes "don't do this or you'll be reported/arrested/kicked out/banned" likely means it as opposed to not meaning it. That is the most likely explanation via Occam's razor and it is the most simple one, and has least assumptions attached.

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 82 reads
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40 / 49

Like I've been saying for a long time (and others have too). He should take that razor and find a better use for it. All this discussion requires is a lick of common sense, which our Board Troll lacks.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 89 reads
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41 / 49

I think engaging in an argument about reason and logic with him is an utter waste of time. Though, yes, I know I’ve been sucked in upon occasion, too. I spent too much time training techies to be able to quickly stifle my “I know the answer” response. Sigh.

 
The problem here, as you well know, is that all we ever get in a response is a deliberate misread of what we’ve said. When he gets frantic he starts throwing in quotes from us and various other sources while he proceeds to misinterpret those as well.  

 
What we end up doing is just obscuring the genuinely valuable content here as well as feeding into his pathology to the point that he just wants more and more. But that is just my opinion.

 
Have a great weekend!

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 134 reads
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42 / 49

No wonder he had to use networking to get jobs. Fail to use the simplest logic possible.  

 
Just like he claims to have me ignored, and can't stop talking about me.

 
Anyone who claims that the simplest and least explanation in the cases of writing "We reserve the right to bl for X, y z and most importantly no Cancel" is NOT that they will bl for X, y z and z, and especially for cancel, is lying to themselves. I could post it on a random question board and ask what they think.  

 
But of course people on here will cry that it's out of context. It's always the same story. Protecting orgs and girls. Smh.

badger48 125 Reviews 68 reads
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43 / 49

the only razor that should be talked about this much is the one that a sexy, shapely (insert the shape of your choice, actually insert into the shape lol!) #9 model material Kgirl would use to remove any unwanted hair on her Kitty!  
She might want a landing strip!

36363jensen 4 Reviews 119 reads
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44 / 49

Right at the top of the wikipedia entry:
"Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor (Latin: novacula Occami), also known as the principle of parsimony or the law of parsimony (Latin: lex parsimoniae), is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity",[1][2] ***sometimes inaccurately paraphrased as "the simplest explanation is usually the best one."[3]*** " Emphasis added

Looking a bit lower:
"The phrase Occam's razor did not appear until a few centuries after William of Ockham's death in 1347. Libert Froidmont, in his On Christian Philosophy of the Soul, takes credit for the phrase, speaking of "novacula occami".[10] Ockham did not invent this principle, but the "razor"—and its association with him—may be due to the frequency and effectiveness with which he used it.[11] Ockham stated the principle in various ways, but the most popular version, "Entities are not to be multiplied ***without necessity***" (Non sunt multiplicanda entia sine necessitate) was formulated by the Irish Franciscan philosopher John Punch in his 1639 commentary on the works of Duns Scotus.[12]" Emphasis added.

 
Note the key point. This issue is not that the simplest explanation is the best but that one needs to explain and account for complexity. You want to rule out the complexity by saying sure, they are probably not native English speakers so we should just take the words at face value. That is a conclusion not supported by the razor in any manner. Moreover, it completely ignore a non language point/assumption that has been made by several here -- and I suspect largely the assumption made by everyone that seems to think you are making a mountain out of a molehill  here. These are people that are very money motivated the the agencies are looking to make money. Sending a revenue stream away for a one (or even occasional) emergency cancellation is not a profit enhancing action.  

 
The assumption about language skills is not where anyone here is making the claim that the posted statement probably means something different that what you're assuming it means. You seem intent on just rationalizing the make it simple error interpretation of the rule rather than understanding what the policy might actually be. That requires bring more complexity into the analysis BECAUSE they are likely not native English speakers so the English itself is not that reliable for any conclusion.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 96 reads
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45 / 49

"The Rockford Files" entitled "Irving the Explainer," 11/18/1977.

 
Also, I first heard of the Sword of Damocles here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqV0BOxid90

 
It's amazing what you can learn watching TV!!

-- Modified on 1/7/2022 9:57:04 PM

badger48 125 Reviews 77 reads
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46 / 49

Maybe the org took it down and Lucky had them put it back up.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 100 reads
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47 / 49

Lol.

 
What complexity is there?  

Once again, when someone essentially says don't do this and we will bl you for it, the most simplest explanation is that they intend to do it. The explanation that is a bluff, or they meant "habitual" cancel or other shit is adding complexity with no necessity. Your assumption that they didn't mean it is based on pretty much nothing.  

 
You want an example? Think of "beware of dog" sign. The complex explanation is that the sign is there to deter bad actors. The simple explanation tho - there's a fucking angry dog there. This is the hypothesis that Occam's razor would choose.
 
 These are people that are very money motivated the the agencies are looking to make money
 
And? What does that have to do with anything? The agency is motivated to make money. Sure. No shit. Dude. They still bl filmers, right? They bl cr_me guys and druggies.

 
So clearly they are willing to part with money for such cases. They made sure to list all of those and then said that even more important is canceling. I just heard recently of agencies asking so much as a full refund on cancel and if monger refused he'd be BLd. I even made a thread on it.  

 
If you start saying their English is not good so their statement can mean anything, that's just a dandy position. You could always excuse anything they'd write. "no you don't get it they're good guys and who want to make $ they meant something else". Huh? What kind of a cop out is this? They're making hundreds of thousands and want clients and yet they write something that can mean anything? Then maybe they meant that filmers may get discounts? It's just as a complex explanation as your explanation.  

 
Please refer to the lsc link I've used in this thread, man. Look at how professional it reads and answers so many questions about cancelations. And like I've said, I'm not even their client due to their screening. So it's not like I'm pimping them. It's just that a noon who reads that knows exactly what to expect. A noob reads that shit by kte and it reads like a threat.

cks175 44 Reviews 137 reads
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Well a noob might. But you’ve also shown us that a very experienced, yet stupid veteran also takes offense.

It’s been demonstrated in this thread that KTE’s practice is not to blacklist every cancellation.  Their website warning is clearly a reminder to noobs not to take cancellations lightly.  If this steers away time wasters who would otherwise be booking a slot that ends up going unused, IT BENEFITS SERIOUS AND RESPONSIBLE MONGERS who have a wider choice of time slots available to book.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 139 reads
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I counted one instance of attempt to compare such warning to a blanket "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for anything" and barbershop.  

 
One onstance of attempt of saying, I paraphrase, that they don't know English hence they didnt mean what they wrote.  

And - the only factually relevant piece of info was brought in by badger. However, that policy he described was when they didn't have this wording on their page. So just because they gave people two more chances then doesn't mean they give chances now.  

 
As far as a noob reading it as a threat, one is already too many.

 
And btw - I think the page is down again?

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