You have a bone to pick with me, fine, do it here, coward, but don't go harming the girl's I see. Somebody here clearly has placed Problem Reports for all my reviews, claiming they're for "Massage Parlor Girls" and not "Escorts." And TER blindly moved them. "Go fuck yourself." (Do you recognize those words??)
 
Hey, fuckwad, do you even care that you're actually doing harm to hardworking professionals? Do you care? What do you have against, say, Judy (see link)?
 
What did she ever do to you? After 1.5 years with her profile accurately under "Escort Reviews," you get lazy TER mods to move it where nobody is going to see it...and where it has no place? What an asshole. Ad hominem or not, I have no doubt this person is small, small, small and miserable. Probably the type that pays for it because he's so sociopathic that he can't even look in the face of a girl who's not his captive audience, much less get her into bed. That's pitiable, but you're also pathetic.

as bright as I think I am, but how can someone be placing problem reports for your reviews if you're posting under an alias with no link to your reviews?

If you don't go along with the prevailing view that K-girls are the greatest thing since sliced bread and their fartrs smell like perfume, you will be viciously attacked.

There were a couple of stalker/trolls (not the same ones I have now) who were writing fake reviews on the girls I was reviewing and giving low scores of 4's and 5's for girls who's averages were between 8 and 9.  They were too stupid to know that most Kgirl mongers don't pay attention to outliers that are substantially lower than the girl's average, because they KNOW that such reviews are agenda driven and dishonest.  Nevertheless, I was able to get some of them removed as fakes, because it was clear from the content that they had not really seen these girls, but these details had to be pointed out to TER for them to take action. The worst part is that it was a time-suck that no one should have to go through.  

What a cuntish, juvenile, schoolboy-mentality thing to do. To harm our girls to accomplish nothing *except* harm is unforgiveable. It was a shameful action. Fuck him, the runt!  
 
And fuck the mods for just taking his word instead of doing their job!
 
I'm sure he's seen this, so I'm done with it. Out.

You said it, not me. (But I have left you a couple of hints.)
 
Search for reviews by allcomers. D'oh!

and you attract the most because you LIE THE MOST!  Its not just a few years ago--that's ANOTHER LIE.  Stalkers are in fact hobbyists who object to your abusive behavior and LYING RANTS.

...the service she performs (I can't mention it because it's for VIPs only).  Between her profile, her ads and her reviews, guys will know what type of provider she is and what services she performs.

Well I overlooked your alias as a reviewer on her profile. I don't have VIP, so I can't search for reviews by a specific reviewer.

Just did a search under Escorts for a curvy Asian at the $160 price point, and Judy showed up.

Given you seem to have been working hard to alienate yourself from TER how is it you know someone filed a problem report.

Internet trolls tend to be some combination of narcissist, psychopath and sadist. With sadism being the strongest indicator of a tendency to troll.  

that no one should be able to challenge a review unless 1) they have seen the girl and also reviewed her, or 2) the content of the review is completely inconsistent with the representations in her web ad.  There will always be guys writing fake reviews, and after while, you learn how to spot them for their inconsistency or lack of specificity, so you just ignore them, but lowering the bar to have a review removed will punish a reviewer who puts up a legit review but is just not as detail driven or verbose as some of the rest of us.  

1. Posting a thread about the troll’s behavior is giving the troll the satisfaction of seeing you upset.

as CDL and I review indies with an alias.  Kgirls are pretty well protected from physical harm IMO by the bookers.   (There was a guy who physically assaulted a girl in OC one time and ended up with both legs broken.  It was made public as an example to others.)  However, indies are at more risk because they do their own screening, so reviewing them only with an alias rather than the CDL user name does not make them a target.  You might want to consider doing that.  You can still help the girl with a honest review, but prevent any potential harm from the crazies that would harm a girl just because you have seen her or like her.

I don't want to contribute to the polluting of my own thread, but before you try to ignore that you introduced yourself to me in another thread with wild statements, innuendo, and just plain old off-topic remarks, let me remind you that's how I met you. And you did it one right after the other. Out of nowhere.
 
So, please stop with the feigned innocence and trying to sounding above it all. When somebody drops into a thread or a post of mine with inane replies, if I respond, I'll usually do so pointedly. That surely has earned me disdain from some of those people and bruised their egos. Maybe they should look at their own behavior before focusing on mine, yourself included. Stronger guys accept that they didn't exactly acquit themselves well with their remarks.
 
If you want this to be the end of this, show it. Or better yet, be contrite...own it.

Yes, and a couple other. More to go. What waste. Where were the mods when they could have prevented this!

So, I guess when you've made unfounded and often offensive posts in reply to something I said, I was supposed to just ignore it. Well, in fact, often I have. But when that reply has the potential to lead others off the topic or, worse, confuse them, I'll let it be known and my displeasure in having to do so will likely be obvious.
 
I'll tell you one thing, I don't respond in kind by name calling. The original post here is a first in that category. But I was angry, and justifiably so. Leave the girls alone!
 
And, yes, I've already taken the time to get some moved, Judy was the first.

I think it was worth making the point that making providers collateral damage in a personal squabble is unacceptable. Yes, I was angry and I don't care if expressing that gave him satisfaction. If he has a shred of decency, his shame will outweigh any twisted glee he derived. And the shame, acknowledged or not, will outlast the glee.
 
I don't understand #2. How would that change anything? Are you saying that mods won't listen to idiots who try to get my reviews moved if I don't use my alias?
 
And, BTW, I have asked the mods to explain their action when moving my reviews and it all crickets. They really do suck. They won't even cop to being wrong except indirectly. But how about explaining how it happened in the first place and figure out how to prevent it in the future.
 
Ask yourself, should users be able to willy-nilly get the mods to do this type of stuff? You don't think it's another symptom of deep problems within TER admin that are having negative effects on the product they're selling us? As I'm sure you know, I can't for a minute figure out why there are more guys who want to fix the problems, yet love to complain about the symptoms.

Since when is questioning the way TER does things alienation? He's still using their service, isn't he? Since when are you the authority on all things TER? I thought that was CDL's job.

When someone responds in a post everyone can see it. If someone submits a problem report regarding a review, unless TER shares that information, no one but TER sees it.

In #2, what you're saying is that if I was allcomers here and used my actually user name for reviews, nobody could make the connection to my reviews and screw with the providers. Is that it? Kind of late for that now. I never anticipated guys would be so immature and devious. I've definitely learned that lesson. I'll give some thought to the switch for reviews going forward.
 
It's just that "greatgoogleymoogley" doesn't have the same ring.

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It's hardly that he's raising questions. Its HOW he has been doing it. I am hardly the only person to point this out.

a "troll magnet", and you are one of the ones proving it.  For the record, Jensen has been here a lot longer than you think.   He switched usernames when TER came back online in December 2019, but I remember engaging with him on this board years ago.  

Respectfully, it seems to me that you were the only one to point it out. It seems like you took personal offense to his challenging TER lol.

And your point is? Seniority dictates authority on a community site?

say "troll" and at least one shows up.  Does that make me the troll whisperer?  LOL

That means it must be true, right?   He wouldn't lie or use "poetic license," woud he?

Yes, seniority dictates authority.

Authority, absolutely not. But longevity does bring familiarity which in many cases brings credibility. It’s why it’s wise when joining a new group not to push strong or argumentative positions before the group’s members have familiarity with you lest you be labeled a troll, loudmouth, or troublemaker. And to be clear I’m using  
‘“you” in the generic sense and not referring to Floorhump specifically.

I would say it solely depends on what really matters to you  - your strong opinions or other peoples opinions of you.

unionized the Kgirl board.   That's the only place seniority means anything.  On a site like this, knowledge and experience dictates who we listen to on the subject of Kgirls.  I have talked to several  new guys here that have been in the hobby less than two years (since TER came back online in the US) but who have already seen over a 100 Kgirls and even dated a Kgirl on the outside.  So Seniority is not based on longevity here.  Otherwise, BigP would have seniority.  Yikes!!! You really didn't think this through, did you?  At Floohumper, the troll in training, we laugh.  LOL

Depends on the propositional value.  

Well, damn, you nailed the era with your Galileo example. And the entrenchment of some here on TER certainly bears a strong resemblance to the entrenchment of the Catholic church of that era (and the next, and the next, and so on). But like Galileo, I think Riff (I just typed Biff again) is saying that discretion is the better part of valor, if I might coin a now esoteric phrase, LOL.
 
I read Riff's message and took it personally. Before you even replied, I was going to reply, "I resemble that remark." A wiser man would have known that every longstanding group has its share of near-unmovable objects. And a more socially aware man would have learned *first* who they were and prepared a "kinder, gentler" approach to their intransigence and overbearing egos or, put kinder and gentler, their "strong personalities."
 
A learned man once said to me: "Laddie, you have a low bullshit tolerance level... and it does not serve you well." Huh?!? Sounds great! Damn, I was 19 and it took me years to know what he meant. Worse, I've made only little progress in correcting it.
 
One thing for sure, and I say it proudly, I would have made a lousy politician.

Allcomers, I agree with you, and like you I have a very low bullshit tolerance level. But in this case, I harken back to my early years as a lawyer in the 1970s when I kept pounding on a point that I thought was crucial to my client's case. The Judge interrupted me, and said, "counsel, you've made your point. If your point has validity you only have to make it once. The more you keep harping on it it makes me question whether you're trying to convince yourself or me?" The point I (and I think many others here) have with the little rocket felcher is that he keeps making the same point over and over to the point that he's convinced me that he doesn't believe his point, he just likes to argue and wants to keep yelling. I've told him a few times before that I don't disagree with his premise, I'm just tired of reading his same drivel over and over, and watching him push otherwise valid threads into the right margin. Sadly, his retort is that he's "Capt Save a Monger" (I'd like to know who appointed him to that position???) and he has the right to say what he wants. That's why he's viewed with such disrespect in this forum, not for his premise, but for his obtuse behavior.

I've mentioned TER mods a few times in this thread, but the closest anybody gets to discussing the central problem affecting reviews in general, and the "delisting" of escorts as with the topic of this thread, is to use the general term "TER." TER does this, TER does that, but no targeting the real problem: TER mods are not up to the task and it's hurting something we apparently all value.  
 
There's actually willful blindness of the sort that characterizes the politically motivated anti Covid-vaccine crowd — get America open!, but no vaxing! And like them, there seems to be no reasoning with the "TER is fine the way it is" crowd, even knowing that in other threads they're all over the mods for lax and even bad behavior (to wit, see Mya's thread). These users have taken a position they weren't reasoned into so theirs no reasoning them out of it.
 
So my appeal for better processes is only to those who want to be able to rely on quality reviews and even use them to find ew providers in their area. That means better review processes and opening TER mods' understanding of *all* the types of Escorts we frequent.

-- Modified on 10/2/2021 2:18:40 PM

I am hardly the only person who has suggested the rhetoric he uses is not conducive to inspiring TER, or even other members, to work with him. Some members will but others find the tone counterproductive.

have been privy to what the OP has been posting on the GD board, where his posts were more explanatory about what her perceives his "mission" to be, whereas I believe Floor Humper has only followed his thread here.  I could be wrong, but I don't think so.  

It's funny how you made this convo shift towards discussing me and my persona... when me and allcomers were merely discussing philosophical approaches. Yet you say I'm the one saying the same shit... Lol.  

I'm starting to believe that Allcomers is the little rocket felcher's alias. Their circular, nonsensical, argumentative style is almost identical, and both try to present themselves as the saviors of TER and wayward mongers. Could there really be two people so clueless?

-- Modified on 10/2/2021 8:30:20 PM

Cripes. LOL.

You do realize that if you're ignoring me,i also won't be able to pm you from an alias? Allcomers, you wanna send Mr riff a pm to show that I'm not you?

I hadn't made the connection, but now that brought it up, I agree its a strong possibility.  It was explain why allcomers showed up after about half this board put rocket on ignore.  Perhaps, it was supposed to be a fresh start, but there is nothing fresh about the argument style.  

Lol. Apparently anyone who tries to argue and make changes is my alias. Lol. God forbid someone tries to rock the boat.  

You seem to want to start a discussion. Yet you don’t have the courage to do this and allow people to put you on Ignore.

I completely agree. This guy is either a spiritual or actual clone of our favorite little narcissist.  

“Allcomers”. Really? Because he’s tired of not being able to throw his sloppy reasoning in the face of everyone, now that so many people have put him on Ignore, right?

Lol. You really, actually think that I'm the same person as allcomers?

Knowing how TER message boards work, the s/w doesn't allow use of more than one ID by a contributor to a particular thread. So your first guess is not likely. That means it must be that I "carefully studied the style" of Rocket. Damn, all that time spent *not* getting it down just to be exposed so quickly, Shoot!
 
The type of disparagement you and your naysayers are engaging in is beneath all of you, and you know it. It's just not beneath your egos.
   
Do I expect pointing this out will help you get a grip and apply your efforts to solving real problems? Nope. I think you’ll be even more offended and resort to even more juvenile attacks relying on your negative support group. You don't want to use TER for its reviews, so those of us that do aren't worth giving an honest airing. You guys are so, so defensive. You have taken offense to my pointing out errors in your posts mostly, it seems, because you don't like my 'tone.'  
 
You would not be able to point to a single example of where I pointed out one of your group's errors and I was wrong. You couldn't do it because there are no examples of it. And being wrong is anathema to your pride. What's going on with these recent attack doesn't take a psychologist to see. It's junior high. And, you know, fuck the providers and guys who are getting fucked because reviews are being handled incorrectly. It's not your agenda so it shouldn't be anybody's. You're like a virus killing its host.

But it would be funny if it really was our little narcissist, wouldn’t it?

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Exactly. And the biggest indicator is that felcher boy is arguing with you that they’re different people and talking about protecting his name (I just had to read his retort) which everyone here knows stands for a lack of integrity, misquoting others, and a desire to argue even when it’s clear he’s wrong. If he wasn’t Allcomers he’d just ignore me/us and not draw more attention to himself. Me thinks felcher boy doth protest too much.

"Sloppy reasoning" just because it doesn't fit your narrative? You aren't from the EC and don't even visit ACS'. Not only are comer's reviews from NoVA, but he's seen a lot of the same girls that I have, so I know that he's from the area, or at least spends a lot of time here. Unless Rocket has been spending months on the EC, they're not the same person. You purport to know what his personality is like. Why would he hide behind an alias? Seems like challenging the authoritarian bent on this board is a personal offense to the old guard.

Strange that "half the board" put him on ignore but miraculously still manage to respond to his posts (and subsequently provide excuses as to why they did it that particular time).

Another great point useyrhead, if you’ll recall when felcher boy arrived here (a day that will live in infamy) he posted under an alias so we had to see his drivel and couldn’t put him on ignore. He was shamed into making trq into his real name a few months later. Now that so many have put him on ignore he’s created another alias so we can’t ignore him and have to see his arguments again.

Allcomers has 15+ reviews for Asian places mostly in your neck of the woods I have zero knowledge of. Even tho I might have researched nova, it was mostly korgs and my knowledge ends with moonpalace. How the hell could I be him? Lol.  

People who really want to ignore posts don't usually tell everyone they ignore them, multiple times. They just do it.

My recommendation is to just ignore him anyway.  

he knows he is on ignore with me, because when he's not, he starts PM'ing me.  If I read any of his posts, its when I start reading the boards BEFORE I log in.  Try it yourself.  When you don't log in, the ignore feature does not kick in because the computer doesn't know who you are.  I will start reading the posts of people who responded to me.  Once I read something he said directly to me, I will SOMETIMES get sucked into responding.  If this practice has damaged your TER experience in any way, then I suggest you sue me.  At Floor Humper we laugh.  Lol

Whoever you think "allcomers" really is (it's obvious), he probably has posted under his real handle in this thread.  If you're so sure of his real handle, you should report him to TER for using both handles in the same thread.  If you're right, TER will out his alias.  Or you can do nothing and just keep posting about it while playing with yourself.

I'll fess. It's me. Yep, just me. You never saw me before by any other name and unless it was by mistake; you never saw a post or review by me from other than "allcomers." Hint, I did make a mistake long ago and posted a few replies in a thread using my user name. Hunt for it! But, as far as I know, there's no way to use both user name and alias in the same thread. I've had posts rejected because I slipped up and didn't catch that the 'Name' field was pre-filled with my user name. So TER has actually looked out for me in that regard.
 
Now, why you ask do I use an alias? Honestly, sincerely, because I set up my account with a user name that had an unfortunate tell in it, so when I noticed that I could use an alias...I did. It's that simple. Nothing nefarious. At the time I had ABSOUTLY no idea there were other implications, some of which are pretty humorous to me now, another that opened me to asinine malevolent behavior.
 
I know that explanation will not satisfy some of you, and that's pretty funny. Have at the conspiracy theories. I mean, after all, why should CTs be the sole domain of politics and election fraud kooks. It'll make me kind of famous here if you all keep it up. Famous among all 12 of you.

TER can't and won't "look out" for you in that regard.  The 'Name' field is pre-filled with the handle you used for your last post.  I've posted with my handle on one board and then posted with my alias on another board.  When I come back to the first board, I've posted on the same thread as I already have but forgot to change back from my alias.  TER wasn't looking out for me - I realized what I had done and immediately deleted the alias post.  Now I am a lot more careful when posting with my alias.

It’s not hard to change a username.

I have been told many times that my particular writing style is relatively distinctive. Unless I go to the trouble of writing all my alias reviews in another style, I’m sure I can still be identified.  

If I run Search Reviews and also run a MP Girls Search the two result sets should be different. They clearly were about three weeks back when I was looking at things.

No overlap here.

No, your wrong again. No problem, I'm used to it.  
 
I did NOT know I could change my user name and didn't even check it out after having an alternate solution drop in my lap. My solution has worked great for lo these many months. I'm kinda liking this stupid controversy, as a change.
 
Remind me again why you care so much. Why it raises such passion among some of you.

Writing style is how I caught dozens of shills trying to pimp their affiliates' goods.

I wasn't conjecturing, I was relating what has actually happened to me. I've had posts "not allowed" for that reason and I've had others where I got an error message the second I hit "Post Message." So, even when a message got into my queue, they rejected it there.
 
That's my experience. I guess you're saying sometimes it get out of the queue. Oh well.
 
As for the name field, I don't post with my user name, so clearly it just flips sometimes. I don't think anybody is claiming that TER has good s/w.

yet if you do a search of MP Girls, put her name in and Tyson's as location she comes up as the first review listing.

Nope. There was a problem at TER this morning and search results were getting jumbled. Try it again.

Pretty sure there are more than one Judy out there.  

The results for "Judy" I get when I run your search are 12, 16, and 18 years old. That's not her.

Learned something new: diction applies to writing. I only ever used it or saw it used in reference to word articulation/annunciation, as in My Fair Lady. Shit, that may be were I learned the word. LOL.
 
Diction can mean word choice. Well, well, well.

When I use the url in my post the first Judy profile is the only current one. When I open it I see more than one reviewer and one from allcomers from June. That has the TER ID you mentioned so from what I see the link is returning the same profile as link in allcomers'  post.

It's because an alias can't be ignored. Even if you ignore the real handle, posts of an alias still show up.  

OK, I'm confused by what you're saying. I though it was about search results gone bad. But then at the end you ask "at least let us know just how [you] reached the conclusion." What conclusion? That whole last paragraph seems like a non sequitur. Try asking another way and I might understand. Then I can answer.

I just logged out and entered your link again.

That's a fine solution, mon frere. A fine solution. Wish you'd sandbagged it for a while though. LOL. After I've milked this faux controversy til I'm tired of it, I may just do that. All my posts and reviews, save for a couple early on when I didn't catch that Name field had auto-filled with my user name, are as allcomers, so I should have the same ease of doing it. At least they now know we're not the same person. I'm pretty sure they're all old guys, yet they act like 3rd graders.

I just did his search an got the three Judy from 12 and more years ago.  
 
When I found them moved it wasn't on a name search, it was a search of MPs in the Tyson's area. She was at the top of the list. Then I did a search on ER for the same area, and she was gone (I knew where the review was on the list).
 
I don't know what's going on with your searches, but they definitely acting up.

Did you try his search while logged in and the same search whie logged out?

No. Why would you do that?? You can't see anything worth seeing that way.

Yes, it was about problematic search functions producing silly results and how that might have impacted your claims.

Um, because the results are different? In one case I don't see the profile in mps, in the other I do.

Tried four variations.
1) Open browser paste URL, enter. Get the results -- Judy with allcomers June review listed at the top and then two from 4 year with two reviews and then one from 6 years. Then I didn't pay attention but more followed.

OK, but what's that got to do with anything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
That's like saying if you stand on your head, the TV fucks up and everybody's upside down. Huh? Sit upright, problem solved.
 
However, if TER wants unregistered users to use the search function in the ways you're discussing, submit a PR. Have you guys done that yet?

The problem stared before this morning.

Just search for all Escort Reviews via the menu option , no search criteria defined. Then do the same search from the MP Girls menu option

Thanks for testing!  

I don’t think many other readers were able to follow the two of yours multi-comment postings re trying to use the TER search function to figure out whether a providers profile is listed under MPs or Escorts. The acronym GIGO comes to mind.

In general, I agree with the phrase, "there are no coincidences." When I'd have to believe it was one coincidence after the other, that phrase is compounded by orders of magnitude.

Escort search across all locations - 18734 pages *15 results per page= 281010 reviews

If TER is now enforcing the rule programatically that is new functionality as of this year.

Thanks for confirming.

"Posted in same thread with alias and username"

Does it reject it automatically or only because you're moderated? I remember when I accidentally posted with my handle it didn't have such a prompt, so like Jensen mentioned it must be new functionality.

...something that the new owners initiated.  It certainly was something the old owners didn't tolerate.  If it wasn't done by accident, posting with an alias and a real handle in the same thread would subject the poster to suspension of posting privileges.