Interesting post coital chat with a Whole Foods San Mateo kgirl today.  

Points made that I thought were heartfelt and honest:

Business is way down in all cities. “American economy is bad.”

Mongers on visas are scared of deportation so the clientele is 90% white right now.

Places like Dallas, DMV and east cost in general are hurting bad.

RA’s want price drops to get customers back but there’s a concerted and coordinated effort by orgs to keep prices up and encourage the upsell/add-on model.  

Good RA’s are quitting thus the rise in average age and drop in quality. She said the influx of Japanese and Chinese in the AAMPS and on tour working for lower cuts and prices is discouraging the Korean high talent.

She said all her customers are asking for price reductions and many  girls would be willing since business is WAY down.

I’ve been preaching for years that the orgs are shooting themselves in the foot and pricing a lot of us out, and now it’s happening right as the trump admin is scaring away a significant chunk of clientele.  

My personal mongering is so diminished that I lose VIP here because I can’t afford to go to aamps and this have no one to review.  

Discuss…
sag

Things I notice:

Orgs like LKS and FKG have gone from 80% top talent to 80% yuck.

BGC, a perennial favorite, seems to be on life support.
PC is on the rise, and it’s not because of hotter talent.

Upsell menus that almost double the price of a session that used to be all inclusive.  

Even the rookies being able to say with confidence, “No wait she’s under 40!”

Six orgs in the bay now with mixed Asian talent of wide ranging quality and price point. Bay Kisses, any one? Geez, SKG is down to one Korean!

What exactly does "Whole Foods San Mateo" mean?

 

As for deportation problems, I would think that the gals themselves would be a major target of same.   Is there any sign of that so far?

Just a political shit post. First, the clients aren’t white people plus people on visas lol. Plenty of yellow, black and brown citizens out there enjoying the hobby

Second, the economy is going to hit the high end first. Rates on tryst have settled at 800 for attractive girls.  Fat pigs are asking 400 to 600 for gfe at best.  

Deportation fears among people who are here legally is pure gaslighting.  

I can say 1000% the biggest factor keeping Korgs from getting more business is verification and fake pics.

All I’m doing here is reporting what one girl shared with me about her current experience in the three cities she works in.  

She states plainly that basically all her clients in the past months have been white guys in the over-fifty category.

She said that many clients have told her that they have to cut back on visits because of the economy. Just her take.  

And as to your politics jab, if this were a political post it wouldn’t be by me.  

More ranting to come about shitpost critical replies to people’s efforts to get some info out there.

Baykisses is interesting. Joann is a good po in fact the only po I know by name (because she states it lol)

But I noticed the corg milfs/gilfs from flashy org (ie motel and other cmilfs/gilfs) flocking to it and raising their prices

Like "Coco" is just corg motel Gina with all of her quite chunky bod. She is 120hhr/160hr/200hr bb at local motel at flashy but 260/hr at baykisses.  

Same thing with Hana at she888, she was at Ms Diana's at 180/hr but she was charging korg like prices at she888

With that said, BK Sophia is more than worth her price imo.

Yup! Sophia is an interesting surprise. 320/hr for the works and a rare gem where her pics are just AWFUL and she’s much hotter and less C-Milfy in person.  

But let’s remember, BK used to host the legendary Kira among others. Quite a change and really wrecking org reputations if you ask me.  

My bottom line: the little guys like me are getting priced out and there aren’t enough whales in the game right now to offset.  

Thanks for the constructive reply, Rocket! I always appreciate your sound insight.

sag

The US economy is hardly bad but that doesn't mean negative impacts to that specific girl's, and those she knows, business has not been impacted. I would tent to lay that on the influx (DMV view here) of J-Girls and their near universal offering of BBFS and things like videos.  

 
While I'm not in the area much this year so don't have a great sense of the pulse there, looking at a number of the agency ad sites it doesn't seem that it's too bad right now. And, when I've been in the area I've not noticed a complete absence, or large decline, in reasonable options. The comparison of today to last year might actually be better. Today to 10 years ago? No way now is better than then.  

 
Prices are higher but if, as your girl says, many of the providers want rates to be dropped but the agencies are not interested in that approach to increase volumes I suspect two things might be going on there. First, a lot of the increase has really been in response to operational costs to the agency and not so much related to what the girls are seeing as a negative impact from inflation (For the K-girls who need to send money home the exchange rate has been kind). Second, perhaps the decline in volumes has not been as larger so the agencies don't expect that reducing prices will increase volume sufficiently to increase profit.

 
I also don't think that the fear of deportation for most of those here on a visa is really driving anything. That has not changed to it has to be that they actually think the probability that the agency will get busted has increases. Maybe and I can see that it might be visa holders might perhaps be a bit more sensitive to that potential pretty much all those white guys are also facing some very high costs related to getting caught. So I don't think all visa holders are worried but non-visa holders don't worry (any more than they did).

as the way it struck me, The Kgirl is at an AAMP near a  
market used for parking.

about demographics, but it is slow in LA is what a couple of girls told me.
 I've noticed a few Kgirls that were known for cancelling a lot a few months back have been working pretty steady and not calling in a NS on the morning of their workday.

Okay, not in that area so if that is the way to read the code cool.

Its a large apartment complex in SM with a supermarket as one of the retail tenant.  Been here many times over the years whenever I'm visiting the SF area

You are the one making this political. The OP is recounting what the kgirl told him. You can infer that she used to have more clients of all types, but in recent times it has been mostly white.

Your comparisons of Tryst is irrelevant here. AAMPs/AMPs are a different business model and not the same client demographic. Sure there may be some overlap, but more likely than not the clients visiting AAMPs will be more cost conscious and/or value conscious. Show me an AAMP that is charging 800 or more? Inflation is a thing, gas costs more, food, drink, etc have all gone up. Discretionary income would be impacted if your regular expenses go up. This inflation also happened when Covid hit, during prior administration.

Deportation fears are real, if you are on a visa legally and get arrested for an illegal activity you can be deported. Is going to AAMP legal? Perhaps the OP could have also included the fear of being detained, which is also a real thing. This is also not political -- being detained improperly has always been possible. Low percentage but not zero. But in prior administrations, there was not such a focus on raids and immigration. Statistically, if you increase the amount of arrests you will also increase the amount of mistaken arrests. This is exacerbated by not enough training and experience with influx of new agents. What would you expect by throwing so many new people into a profession they've never been in before? So yes detainment and deportation fears would impact people here legally and it is not political to say so.

Thanks.

 
BTW, does lead to an inference of some specific agencies, or is it more like some locations here in DMV where multiple agencies work out of. Just trying to get a better context for the specific source of the claims.

The provider talked about trends that she’s seen this past year, but you refer to issues that go back years and years.

This location is a magnet for other kgirl agencies and indys as this location has plenty of parking, somewhat discreet entrance/exit and near freeway access.

Probably the San Mateo k-org that hosts from a place right next to said Whole Foods

something?
Were some of the WF/Whole Foods market references removed from a few posts?
I put WF in my post, now it just says market!