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Re: BT, this is why . . . .
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 1767 reads
posted
1 / 30

Anybody know if these two Hami's are the same  girl or two different girls?  One is currently in OC and the other one is in the BA.  Can't be in two places at once, so if they are the same girl, one of the orgs is hijacking photos.  Spelled the same, but the OC version has a space spelling it "Ha mi."   What do you think?

 
http://asianangels.ch/asian-companions-san-mateo/hami/

 
http://www.princess2garden.com/ha-mi

team_rocket_qwerty 108 reads
posted
2 / 30

What ?
The pics dont look the same at all. From all indication, these are different girls.

We already discussed bay area Hami/Yumi before:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/what-do-we-think-of-same-girl-marketed-as-two-same-org--18079

GaGambler 115 reads
posted
3 / 30

Those are hardly the same girl and  we already discussed the Hami at Asian Angels, I might note that she was working in Dallas not long ago under the name Jesse.

Golddust58 23 Reviews 105 reads
posted
4 / 30

Yea. Ha Mi is entirely different than Hami. Ha Mi is former Halsey of Fantastic org in San Jose. She is listed on vacation If you check out the fantastic site, but is working out of p2g in OC. Last time I saw her she had a stunning tight body. Aftermarket implants that suit her well and a nice booty for a kgirl too.

GaGambler 129 reads
posted
6 / 30

and as an agency girl she has no web presence of her own so there is nothing to combine.  

 
If you actually saw K-Girls you'd know this was common practice and just one of the reasons this board exists so guys who actually see K-Girls can share personal experiences of which you have NONE. Now please please just piss off like a good little troll if you have nothing to contribute, which we all know you don't

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 99 reads
posted
7 / 30

You already saw Ha Mi in OC. They can't be the same girl when Hami in BA uses different photos and has different stats of 5'3" tall 34B-23-34, all natural, PSE. Nobody is hijacking anything in this case. Same name is only a coincidence.
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Ha Mi in OC is a top tier Kgirl without resorting to PSE. She cannot be in BA when she is available now in OC.

RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 92 reads
posted
8 / 30

Agree. She has also worked for Discrete Whispers/GirlfriendLV in Vegas in the past. I hope she comes back because I'd love to see her. Her reviews are top shelf.

Twoontuesday 11 Reviews 92 reads
posted
9 / 30

And this, my monger bros, is how to look out!  Well done GoldDustbro!!

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team_rocket_qwerty 110 reads
posted
10 / 30

Seriously, is cdl that naive to think names don't get reused left and right in kgirl world?

We'd literally have two Claire's, two Haras, God knows how many Tias, etc in the bay area alone.

GaGambler 134 reads
posted
11 / 30

I honestly have no idea how he could get the idea that those two women were the same girl, they look NOTHING alike to me.

Twoontuesday 11 Reviews 165 reads
posted
12 / 30

Do you have a review pending for Ms Cami?

Sorry to detail your thread CDL.

team_rocket_qwerty 122 reads
posted
13 / 30

This isn't the first instance of this from CDL - see the 'Sky' discussion in the neighboring thread, who apparently doesn't look anything like Sky from the bay area and is indeed a different girl, according to a better tomorrow.

I mean, while pics ARE unreliable, the names are COMPLETELY unreliable. lol

GaGambler 116 reads
posted
14 / 30

I mean how many providers there are with the name Coco, or Mimi, or even Sky?  

 
It's like knowing a Vietnamese person with the last name Nguyen, it hardly narrows things down for you.

 

I freely admit to drinking to excess, I think CDL must do the same for breakfast some days. lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 112 reads
posted
15 / 30

I was asking for clarification.  The Hami I saw three years ago was using the same photos as Asianangels.   Most girls change photos once or twice a year, and its not unusual to use a completely different photoshoot when working in a different city from their home town.  TER had already combined the two  spellings into the same profile when I wrote my review, so I did NOT know there were two different girls, since I only saw one of them.  When I noticed there was a Ha Mi at P2G at the same time there was a Hami in the BA, I wondered if these were two girls and TER should NOT have combined them into a single profile over three years ago, so that's why I put up the thread to find out if they are one in the same.  I agree the photos look different, but with the heavy photoshopping that Kgirl orgs do, that's not dispositive for me these days.  Thanks to you and all others who weighed in for the clarification.  NOW I know they are two separate girls and the combined TER profile is an error.  It looks to me like the profile more closely describes Hami, while someone has  changed the height to describe the taller Ha Mi.  Hami is correctly described as an Athletic body type, while its pretty clear that  Ha Mi is has a slender body type, so the confusion was created by whoever combined the profiles and changed the height to match Ha Mi.  Now there is the additional issue of trying to figure out which girl has which reviews, since they are combined.  I can declare that my review was of Hami currently in the BA.  I have not yet seen the one in OC, but if I do, how do I write a review against the same profile for a different girl.  This is really fucked up.  Hope they did not give the troll two free VIP day for combining the  profiles into one.  Lol  

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impposter 49 Reviews 139 reads
posted
16 / 30

I have commented on this problem several times in the past several years. Let's see ...  
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When I was still writing reviews, I always mentioned the Profile TER ID in the General Info. (Someone thanked me for that.)  "This is a review of Coco 123, NOT Coco 456 or Coco 789."  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/re-a-kgirl-named-yoko-18532
That way, even if TER incorrectly merges reviews into a single Profile, the merge can be easily undone from the TER ID numbers in the General Info.  
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As it is, there does not appear to be a simple "UNDO" function if reviews are merged incorrectly.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/re-yokos-are-like-mimis-or-cocos-there-have-to-be-a-hundred-of-them-18492  (TER should change that in any new -- wishful thinking -- database structure.)
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On a related note, I have always encouraged reviewers to update info fields in their review forms even tho' it does not automatically / immediately update the Profile info. E.g., if the Profile says NO about MSOG for the first 5 reviews, but then a series of reviewers starts to check YES (and maybe mention it in Juicy Details). Now, someone submits a Problem Report to change MSOG NO to MSOG YES. TER can scan the complete forms and see the reported chronological trend in the Service:
N, N, N, N, N, Y, Y, N, Y, Y, Y, Y, N, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y PROBLEM REPORT.  The TER checker can see that most recent reviewers have been noting that MSOG is now a YES and update the Profile. If guys were lazy and left the MSOG field as the auto-filled N, TER might reject the Problem Report as unproven or as a single exception.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
TER had already combined the two  spellings into the same profile when I wrote my review, so I did NOT know there were two different girls, since I only saw one of them.  When I noticed there was a Ha Mi at P2G at the same time there was a Hami in the BA, I wondered if these were two girls and TER should NOT have combined them into a single profile over three years ago, ... NOW I know they are two separate girls and the combined TER profile is an error.  ... Now there is the additional issue of trying to figure out which girl has which reviews, since they are combined. ...  This is really fucked up.  Hope they did not give the troll two free VIP day for combining the  profiles into one.  Lol

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 96 reads
posted
17 / 30

CDL, I like to see new Kgirls. Back then I would track when a new Kgirl came to LA / OC and when her TER profile was created. It would be very unlikely for me not to know of another "Ha Mi" in September 2017.
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It's possible your Ha Mi might have slipped through the crack of my meticulous tracking.
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TER ID 304485 is OC Ha Mi original profile. Her stat had always been 5'6" 34C-24-36.
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She started out as "Hami" with J in Santa Monica until September 2016. She moved to Princess Garden in OC in August 2017 and changed her name to "Ha Mi". I believe ONEKNOTTEDUP created a new TER profile for her with his review. The next reviewer CHINAMAN900 pointed out she had an existing profile 304485. Somebody then merged both "Hami" and "Ha Mi" profiles together. I was originally surprised that you haven't seen OC Ha Mi and wanted to recommend her.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 91 reads
posted
18 / 30

That explains how they got merged together.  It still doesn't solve the problem of having two sets of reviews for two different girls under the same TER profile, but I guess there is no way to sort it out now.  That was what  I was seeking clarification on, since there was only ONE TER profile with both spellings included.

rpd1952 113 Reviews 115 reads
posted
19 / 30

I saw Hami (or was it Ha Mi?) in OC a couple of times a few years ago.  I almost never go to OC but seen missed her when she was working in LA, which is no doubt the J/Santa Monica stint you mention. But can you confirm that the 2016 pics she used in Santa Monica and then OC are not the same as what she's using now, which could be part of the confusion?

I recall about 3 pics from 2016, one might have been in a short black dress and the most memorable to me, and which caused my initial interest was a frontal shot in a pinkish bikini standing on the balcony with face blurred and buildings/high rises in the background.  

The current Princess Garden pictures are not the same pictures used by Hami when I saw her a few years ago, but the face certainly looks like the same Hami I saw (and not the face of the Bay Area girl), except I remember Hami/Ha Mi with a deep tan and a bit thicker body than the current Princess Garden Pics. Does that sound right?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 110 reads
posted
20 / 30

because a couple of the pics Hami in BA is using now were the ones she used when I saw her here.  The others she is using up there now are the same style photography, so I'm certain she is the one I saw.  I remember her being on the thicker side as well, hence the "Athletic" body description in the TER profile fits her more than the description of the girl that is currently at P2G, which appears to be slender.  I'm pretty certain that the pics in the P2G ad are relatively new. I do not recognize them from the past either.

 
With that said, I have been adequately convinced by BT's explanation that we have two different girls here, which is where I was thrown off by not knowing the TER profile includes reviews for both girls. The question remains, "How do we know which reviews go to which girl?"  I don't think we can ever find out unless TER has a way to "reverse" the combining of the two girls into one profile so that the reviews are distributed to the right girl that they were originally intended for.  It would have been nice if someone that knew they were two girls at the time they were combined would have stepped up and sent a Problem Report to TER before this got so old.   I would have done it, but at the time I didn't know it was two different girls.  Oftentimes, when there are individual girls using more than one name, if I see them under both names, then I'm confident in reporting to TER that they should be combined.  This is what I thought happened in this case, i.e., somebody had seen her under both names and reported that it was the same girl.  A different photo spread goes with the territory on a name change, so that alone would not be dispositive for me that its a different girl.  

team_rocket_qwerty 101 reads
posted
21 / 30

I think you shouldvd provided more background info initially, because your initial question just asked about hijacked photos, and when people not knowing bg info looked at them... everything was different

Fwiw... bay area Hami does look like some of her pics. Just a tad older, but face is somewhat accurate on some of them and even body is in the ballpark.

rpd1952 113 Reviews 84 reads
posted
22 / 30

The Hami I saw in OC around 2016 did not have any pictures of the current BA girl mixed in. So unless both Hami's were also working in OC back in 2016, I think one of us may be mistaken about the pictures. Maybe some other VET who remembers can chime in.

randy62 74 Reviews 94 reads
posted
23 / 30

Speaking of our local Hami/Yumi why does she hold her hand over her ass hole during the entire session and not allow doggie? Just curious.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 150 reads
posted
24 / 30

Yes, those 3 pics from 2016 were her original real pics. She did have enhanced and ample breasts, hourglass figure, porn star body with deep tan. The current Princess Garden pictures are her latest set of photos that she used as Halsey in NorCal and Peony in OC. She is the same "LA Hami" / "OC Ha Mi" you saw.
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A Kgirl can change so much in a year or two that I can hardly recognize her. A new photo shoot can seem like a different girl. Cari and Chloe didn't look the same as I remembered after they came back from "vacation". I recommend reading Ha Mi's latest reviews and have a refresher time with OC Ha Mi for old times' sake.
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As far as I remember, there were no other "Ha Mi" in September 2017. I also do not recall she ever used the photos that Hami in NorCal is using, although those photos are also familiar. This is based on my faulty memory. Without my tracking system, I would be just as confused as CDL. My system was designed to detect all incoming Kgirls to LA/OC and possible rebrandings so I could TOFTT on new Kgirls. It has helped filling up the gaps in my memory.

team_rocket_qwerty 98 reads
posted
25 / 30

Lol, no idea, but that's part of the reason I've never bothered to repeat. Fun girl to shoot shit with, loves her doggo (actual dog), nice natural body for her age, seems to like sex, but Mish only and kinda lazy. When service is like that, Id want a younger looking face and great gfe to offset, but no cigar here.

 
On a side note, when girls show you pics and you see her kids and the male kid looks close to your age, you tend to feel some type of way lol.

Side note #2, good to see some more familiar handles here. Lol.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 125 reads
posted
26 / 30

late summer of 2017, its very possible she had a new photoshoot when I saw her, but at least two of her photos she's currently using in the BA I remember from the time I decided to see her.  In the Cityvibe days, I know some of the girls were getting new photo spreads every 4-6 months.  Top girls like Megan in LA, Aya in OC, every 3 months.  

randy62 74 Reviews 103 reads
posted
27 / 30

I dipped out of the game for a bit after the donkey sh*t show! Ya she is fun to hang out with but she was not into it at all. I didnt sweat it I just made the best. I thought maybe she sharted and didnt want me to see it. LMAO

rpd1952 113 Reviews 97 reads
posted
28 / 30

When I said 2016 it was a general year range and because BT referenced 2016 in Santa Monica so I was focused more on the pic time frame.  BT says she started in OC in 2017 and if that's correct, it would have been 2017 at the earliest that I saw her. Bookers MO was to text instructions to park and wait at a nearby business. Then rather than text entry codes and room she would verbally provide garage entry code and instruct you to roof parking and you then you call again for verbal instructions including room number once parked.  That memory stands out because everybody else always text.

rpd1952 113 Reviews 136 reads
posted
29 / 30

I saw the Peony OC pics and recognized her as the Hami I saw, but did not book as Peony.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 119 reads
posted
30 / 30

returned for a few weeks after being gone since 2015.  I was absolutely shocked at how much her looks had gone downhill in just 5 years . . . . Another 30 lbs, sagging implants, and saggy face.  It was really sad.  I had a hard time going through with it.  I've seen a lot of these girls trying a comeback when they are past their prime, but this was the worst.  Word got out really fast among the OC veterans and she was finished in two weeks.

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