Are these girls, new or in New orgs, or regulars that have been here a while?
Yes, it is happening here in San Fran too but I only notice it in new orgs or with newer girls.I have seen three different Kgirls in the last few weeks who are allowing only a 10-minute break between customers. While I have no problem seeing high-volume girls, it seems to me that 10 minutes is just not enough time to do a proper clean up. On top off this, I saw two of the girls a second time, and paid particular attention to anything different about the sessions. I found that the providers were not as attentive overall and tended to be focused on the clock and the time. Its hard to get a connection going when she's doing BBBJ and the eye contact is with the clock and not me.
I also found in both instances that, where I was used to having girls help me dress at the end, and were flirty and fun trying to get me to come back, they instead chose to begin the cleanup of the bedroom (changing the bed towels, bathroom towels, throwing away tissues and cups, etc.) instead. The cleanup used to be on their dime, and now it is apparently part of the time we're paying for, making the hour even shorter if you count the time it takes you to get to the apartment after the go-ahead.
It appears the new mentality is that they are willing to compromise on the service we are used to getting in order to squeeze a tenth customer in at the end of the day. It seems a bit greedy and impersonal. By contrast, I saw girls in OC and SD during this same time period who were both the traditional half hour break in between, and the sessions were much better and more connected, and they're not trying to push you out the door before the next guy steps off the elevator.
I find the whole experience of these 10-minute-break girls make me feel like part of an assembly line. My question is, does anyone else here find this off-putting? Or am I just looking for quality that is a thing of the past in LA
Are these girls, new or in New orgs, or regulars that have been here a while?
Yes, it is happening here in San Fran too but I only notice it in new orgs or with newer girls.
Another was here around May-June, then left for over a month and then came back, and the third is a long-time LA girl. I know two were with the same booker/org. Not sure about the third. Fortunately, it seems contained in LA, but in the last year, there have been a few touring girls come through OC that were doing 15 min between customers. Still a bit of an assembly line feel.
It's mostly 15 as much as I remember. I haven't seen any 10 minute yet, but I did see a regular on Friday at 11am and when booker confirmed she asked if I could come a little early because they didn't want a lot of guys hanging around the front door. But when I get in the girl suggested her booker scheduled 11, 12 and 1pm appointments. I don't jump to conclusions, so maybe that was a one time thing with this particular girl on that particular day. As far as end of session, I know how to put my own socks on so that's no big deal.
of sorts. I originally started hobbying in LA years ago to follow touring girls that were working there after they worked OC and SD. These girls always represented to me that they had 30 minute breaks. The only time I was "aware" of a 15 minutes break was when it was a result of my scheduling constraints. For instance, if I asked for 2 hours at 12:00, and the booker said 12:30, then I would sometimes say okay but then I can only do 90 min. Then the booker would say how about 12:15 and we would agree on that, so I knew that she was seeing me after only a 15 minute break. There were other times when regulars have gone over with me by as much as 20 minutes, especially on multi-hour appointments, so I just always assumed the 30 minutes was standard like it was in OC and SD. I will defer to your superior local knowledge. You will know when you get the 10-minute girls because the start time will end in a zero, like xx:10, xx:20, etc.
I just don't remember if there was past standard greater than 15. I do remember one of the early agency (2005? Park Asian) seemed to book back to back with no time between. You'd show up on time and end up wait1ng, but still get your hour, or 30 minutes which they also had. These days it's pretty much like clock work. Almost all my experience is with the 1st or 2nd appointment, just about never later than the 3rd.
How about writing (or updating) some reviews on these gals so the rest of us will be prepared as to whom they are? To be honest, I haven't had this problem at all.
negative observations, I'm not going to out the specific girls, but I would venture to say that the concerns I voiced would probably be uniform across the board because they had to do with the time limitations in the session, and not anything specific about the girl's sexual performance, which were all good overall, minus the lack of connection that I mentioned. I don't want to hurt a girl's business when it may be the policy of the org that is causing this and not the girl.
...this is a "review" board, supposedly detailing both positive and negative experiences. In fact, one of the TER questions asked when reviewing a gal is whether or not the session is "full and unrushed". In addition, by just throwing out generalities you are casting dispersions on the whole Kgirl scene, possibly causing a lack of business for gals that don't fit the model you describe.
Its exactly because I'm throwing out generalities that I don't want to target specific girls. I had a three girl sample, which was enough for me to draw some conclusions about the subject of my post, which was, IMO, shortening the breaks between customers affects the connection and flow of the session from what I am used to. If you don't agree, do your own sampling. Maybe you will have a different perspective from your own expectations based on your OWN past experiences with Kgirls.
As you SHOULD know, whatever the first reviewer puts up in the profile for "full and unrushed" is what sticks in the profile. I don't have the power to change that by myself. In my own experience, it takes 6 or 8 guys to complain about an incorrect profile entry before TER will change it. It CAN be done, but I'm not invested enough in this issue to make a big deal about it. Its just a topic for conversation and I was interested in getting some other perspectives from fellow hobbyists. You either have one of your own based on your own experience with the 10-minite-breaks, or you don't. Its really not complicated.
I think its because you are going on the erroneous assumption that this is a "review" board, rather than a "discussion" board, as TER clearly labels it, that it may be causing you some confusion. So once again, this is the Kgirl DISCUSSION board, not a review board. Reviews are posted elsewhere on the site. Whoever gave you the impression that this was a review board either misinformed you or was messing with you.
some girls are like that. literally follow exactly what the owner tells them.
so when they are trained for the LA scene to make sure bed is tighty, make sure towel is placed so cum doesn't spill when you spit it or when the jizz on your body, make sure the guy is out to door 5min before etc. the good ones use common sense and go with the flow but some are little airheaded and follow exactly what the owner says.
you might have been screwed and got one of those blindly following order kgirls
we have to. They pretty much just know that's where they belong. Lol
Nice preemptive strike, though. Lol
Investigate yourself and you might save yourself potential embarrassment. When I asked the booker one of the times I went what times were available on a particular date, she responded 9:50, 11:00 and 12:10. Granted, I've been out if school a long time, but it appears to me they are putting 10 minutes between 1-hr appointments. If I'm wrong, perhaps you can enlighten us how it comes out any other way?
I'm not meeting the all-stars like you guys (yet!), but in my limited experience the shortest has been 15 minutes. Although I can dress myself like everyone else here, I would be put off if the girl started the post-session cleaning while I was doing so instead of spending the last few minutes with me. Also I'm kind of a clock-watcher myself and I don't need the added pressure from the girl; I already know when I need to finish up.
I have to chuckle a little about the whole "dressing myself" bit.
My last session, I naturally had an earlier start on drying after the shower (the girls nearly all the time prefer some privacy to complete they shower routine) so after handing her her towel once she finished up I headed out to the bedroom. First to drop the donation discreetly -- keeps the how GFE image going -- and then started getting dressed. I was scolded for starting to dress without her there to help 
Now, I was also held up a couple of minutes due to a client issue -- not sure if it was her prior appointment or one for the other girl sharing the apartment. So we started about 5 minutes late but then ran the appointment about 15 minutes over the delayed start....
Are they shooting for 10 minute, 15 minute or 30 minute between appointment window? Not really sure.
The other thing that complicates the question is 45 minute sessions. Maybe what cld is seeing is a shift by many mongers to 45 minutes rather than 60 so the 9:45, 11:00, 12:15 windows would represent longer than 15 minutes between clients if 45 minute sessions were the default for the schedules.
would be welcome by me. I don't recall seeing 45 min offered in LA since I started hobbying there. The CV ads usually quote only one-hour and half-hour rates. Maybe Rpd1952 knows. I think he's been hobbying in LA since Pio Pico was the governor. Lol
I think he probably means the guy booked an hour, but has finished his business and needs to hit the road, or maybe doesn't care to relax a little once the action is over. There was a time when one particular booker had 45 minute sessions for $200 in addition to the standard $250 for 60 minutes. Her outfit also worked Sundays at a time when hardly any did. It was a good deal because 30 minutes is cutting it close whereas 45 works well for one shot. You know Tomi from OC - she worked LA as Kandi and a lot with this booker. but in general, that agency seemed to have less popular girls. Booker had been a working girl and I think was also booking for a second location in OC.
No cdl had it right. I've never been part of the LA scene -- east coast -- and didn't know the 45 minute option wasn't there. In my area except with a few exceptions the options listed are 45, 60, 90 and 120. No 30 minute options to speak of (one Chinese agency is offering and I think some of the indies on P411/DateCheck might offer the option) but the upper tier don't. While I'm sure you can request and get a quote on a longer date I'm pretty sure the response to a query about a 30 minute one would be, Sure, feel free to leave after 30 minutes but you pay for one of the listed options. ;-
I don't have as many dates as some of y'all, and I'm pretty much sticking with 3 agencies who have been very good experiences for me, but I swear I've never had a rushed session or felt pressure to hurry my ass out of the room. I don't get the sense that these girls are booked solid all day, either. I make appointments morning of, and have always gotten whatever time I request. Plus, I've had a couple of girls ask me if I wanted to extend my session and two recently were pouting (playfully) that they weren't all that busy.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that while at times I envy "the LA K-girl scene" the way y'all describe some of the legendary girls, I am very happy with the mix of cute GND types and K-pop-star beauties that rotate through Northern Virginia.
I mean no offense to DC but its not exactly well known to koreans in general as a happening place like LA.
So wonder how kgirls get recruited to work there.
The one's I talk to all say they hate LA and want to get away. I don't think recruiting them to tour though the area is difficult. BTW, the 3rd most widely spoken language in Virginia is Korean.
During cuddle time, I like to ask the girls how long they have been in DC and where they are heading next. I'd say about 70% are on an Atlanta to DC to Boston circuit (not necessarily in that order), a couple mentioned Chicago, and a couple mentioned cycling back to Korea. The remaining 20-25% mentioned coming from or heading to California/LA.
None of the K-girls I've seen here stay for any length of time, so they don't have a chance to become established legends like you folks have in LA where y'all can recall a particularly notable provider from 10 years ago, and take them out on dates and whatever. I do know of one K-girl who went independent here in DC and is fairly legendary (she's up for girl-girl and is into anal), but she's the only one I know of.
Perhaps DC is not known as a "happening" tour of duty, and I'm convinced the girls are not as slammed busy as they seem to be in LA. That probably cuts both ways for them--not as stressful with a constant turnstile of clients, but on the other hand, not as much $$ per week. But I'm just guessing.
But every date I've had, which is probably about 35 give or take, has been from very good to fantastic, so I'm glad for the ones that do stop through here.
...Kgirl I've seen in the past few months seemingly had 10 minute prep time between appts as confirmed by the booker offering appt times of 11, 12:10, 1:20, etc. Don't remember which. That being said, the session wasn't rushed at all and IIRC, she actually went over time by like 10 minutes. Go figure.
Kind of unrelated, but it's amusing to compare the time set in the provider's room (wall clock, alarm clock, etc) to the actual time on my phone. More often than not they align, but at least a few occasions her time is fast by 5-10 minutes.
That think they went overtime were just looking at the wall clock that is often fast.
The room clock has been fast for me multiple times, but when I check my phone after each session the timing has always been fine. I'm not worried about being short-changed because if someone was doing it habitually, word would get out and it would be reflected in the reviews.
Are the bookers posting these start times for the day or is that something you ask and they tell you.
That's not how things have worked, in my experience, where I'm at. I've often had an open schedule so simply call and asked what availability X has. In almost every case I get asked what time I'm looking for. Sometimes I'll get a specific time. Never hear them say well she's available at X, Y or Z where one could deduce some implied break between appointments.
They don't post times in LA, but they generally have set schedules. I know enough to ask for 1215 if I don't want 11, but the answer might be, sorry, already booked 1215, available 11, 1:30, 2:45 or variations thereof. There's variations by booker, by girl. Some do 30 minute appointments, some don't, some start at 10 whereas 11am is more the norm. But does it matter? Most of us are not rocket scientists, but certainly are a lot of over generalizers.
what I do; request a specific time and they either say okay or else give you back what is still available on that day.
Some of the best sessions I ever had were with a Viet superstar (now retired) who would take me at 7:30 am. I got to hobby without missing much work on those days. She only worked until 4:00, so she was never tired and almost always fully booked.
Sometimes I ask for availability between x and y times; I figured out the 15 minutes based on the choices I received in response.