I think you guys can keep in your pants for a week or so
Lets boycott these kdolls (even thought i love them) for 2 weeks
let the bookers we mean business...
no more fake reviews..no more fake pics...
let them hurt for awhile
maybe price will go down!

starting in January?

getting a bunch of horny whore mongers to boycott the K-Girls for two DAYS, much less two weeks is about as likely as the board getting together and refusing to acknowledge BLPOS's posts. It is NOT going to happen. Not today, not tomorrow, not EVER.

Its not paint thinner....its lacquer thinner!
Just pissed driving to find out girl not the one promised!
Oh well.....

Maybe an accurate review would be a swift kick in the ass?

its what incall hos charge in korea.  heck some places in Seoul charge in the 350 range.  and then theres upcharge for if you want additional service like cim, rimming, or prettier girls etc.      

Why am I not surprised your from CA, lol

In my experience and opinion, all that a boycott would net us would be a price increase. And we all know that if the price goes up, it doesn’t ever go down.

I hear that prices and upcharges are going up in LA. Some places charging 400 for the, uh, pse services.

Did you start drinking even earlier today than usual?

If you boycott you only will lose the girls to other markets.  There are very wealthy mongers out there that give some 10-30k month. Boycotting works for products and businesses, not for the men who want pussy. You are in the minority my friend. I session 3x a week usually. I can't go one week without the company. A problem I love to have.

Anybody remember Halski?

I remember him pretty well. Please feel free to elaborate.

And the other thing to think about is even if everyone on the west coast reading this board were to join in, it is probably less than 10% of the market and possibly fairly easily replaced.

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Yeah, I know...

This is part of the point I was thinking of when I posted a counter opinion to the idea of a boycott.

ok i agree with what you are all saying
so I have an idea!

Few things here.  

Being afraid to piss off bookers is stupid. Sorry.

We can discuss economics and market dynamics as well as org history at another time. Your predilection for always jumping to the conclusion that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is siding with orgs I simply won’t bother with. It’s just silly.

Posting photo issues has been done on multiple other forums in which I have participated. So far, it’s always been easier to post comments about problematic photos. Not just the “verified” ones.

Interesting. You're the one who brought up agreeing with someone about economics, I merely asked who did you agree with. Because no one else posted what you agreed with. Now you want to discuss it at another time. Um OK. Lol. Your whole point was based around the concept of boycotts or even incitation or instigation of them resulting in orgs  raising prices.  

Maybe you will get that idea of everyone submitting timely and accurate reviews for every session accomplished here. It will be a first if you do. But you’re welcome to keep banging your head on that brick wall.

I did not dismiss limiting toftts.  

If I recall correctly, and my memory dead fucking drunk is good enough to catch your stone cold sober lies, is that I suggested we simply call them "non K-Girls" but it was YOU who had the issue with the term "Indy" quite frankly I never gave a fuck, nor do I now. Nor do I give a fuck what you say or think.

Will posting orgs whose photos are perpetually fake  not "negatively impact their ability to drive revenue"?  

I won’t argue your poor interpretation of what I wrote. You’ve become quite notorious on here in a very short time for doing just that.

You are now switching gears completely and pointing fingers at me.  

Your reading comprehension still needs a good bit of work. I keep asking you for a proposed solution. I even gave you some general ideas of things that have been used to address your concerns (and worked) elsewhere. And you think I’m persecuting you and fear mongering? Sigh.  

that know what we are doing and can minimize the chances of getting fucked over by an org stop seeing Kgirls  for  those of you who can't seem to figure it out despite all of the advice that's been posted here ad nauseum.    

A boycott is a form of solution. It's questionable whether it will work or not, but it is a form of solution. You yourself have mentioned that it worked before, so certainly it's not outlandish.  

Yes, boycott...
 and let them all be mine!  

All orgs in the bay area lie about pics.

Interesting. You are afraid to list them yourself. So you challenge someone else to do so in order for them to prove to *you* that they aren’t afraid of the orgs?

You didn’t suggest boycott. You specifically stated that you weren’t suggesting or supporting the idea of a boycott.  

So, you won't answer my question relating to topic on hand, because I did not suggest it?

As you well know, your question is already asked and answered. You just don’t like the answer. Though when you reply you will do your usual selective misquoting to see if you can provoke a response. I’m not the only one who is both well aware that you think you’re fooling everybody with your wide eyed innocent “I’m just standing up for the poor mongers” (almost none of whom are speaking up here, though, so they must be on another forum) act - and also getting tired of it.

Huh? I said that all orgs in the bay lie.

On the list of non-helpful answers, this is pretty close to the top.

There are multiple avenues to access reviews that discuss accuracy of photos. Those of us who avail themselves to that info essentially boycott the girls/orgs that rely to heavily on fake pics. So an organized boycott isn’t necessary.

No, I don't know your answer. This is why I'm asking the question. Please, repeat your answer if you already answered it. I'm likely very stupid to not see your answer, sorry for that.  

???

I agree  
Lets no rock the vote
I was just venting
So who wants to volunteer and become a risk taker

I completely agree with both of the above comments.

Rocking the boat (assuming that's what you meant) is a great way to facilitate change. Publicly letting the people know you're upset with their way of things, speaks louder than anything else.

And I will help you with that, you have my word. Not so much with my own toftt because covid, but I will try to gather info from trusted mongers elsewhere about pics and new girls and relay here.  

WTF, you even rave about how TER is supposed to have its main focus as reviews and that is how they make their money. Now  you find it annoying they limit pointing information that is always hidden unless you are signed in with a VIP account?

I get why they do it, but it's not like I was writing a whole review there...something like see/don't see is simple enough without many details that I feel it could be allowed here. Just my two cents. You know how non-vip don't see juicy details but can see general details?

All of this happened after FOSTA with TER and CityVibe gone. Gentlemen stopped seeing Kgirls or only stay with known Kgirls. Covid exacerbated the problem. Boycotting will only make it worse. Instead, we need to tell others which Kgirls to see or avoid.
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As others said, there are avenues for research. Those avenues don't help me see new girls. I still enjoy seeing new girls by asking bookers who I should see. I don't think there is an org in SoCal I haven't been. I can post a list of Kgirls and accuracy of photos here if TER allows it.

We’re trying to find out what we can about TERs current rules so that we have the best shot at doing this.  

My biggest problem with most people’s actions who claim to be revolutionists, or at the least revolutionary, is that in so many cases, if they put the same amount of passion and energy into making constructive contributions they usually could have done better and with less harm to others.  

Just to clarify, I don't claim to be a revolutionary.  

How will boycotting make it worse? Is there a link established, is there any evidence? I've asked useyehead this, and he refuses to answer this question.  

What is really confusing is that you seem to be pretending that you don’t know this solution not only works, it makes sense. Odd for a guy who claims to have been around the AAMP scene as long as you do. Who better than the mongers, whom you claim to solely trust, to monitor the market? It’s been shown to work on other sites before.

Where the hell are you seeing girls in Seoul??? Aren't you Korean?? You're getting charged foreigner prices man.  

It’s been too long since I went to Seoul for me to state what current prices are. But the prices you are talking about are much more in line with my experience than the post to which you are responding.

I just made a thread for SoCal. Someone can go there and ask: is Cami using real pics? Another person can reply saying yes and describe how accurate the photos are. Include a Picture URL of the most accurate picture and a Link URL to her TER's profile or website. I have no problem saying a Kgirl uses fake photos.
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IMPORTANT: Do not turn a post into a Mini-Review or a Shill post.  
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I have been choosing new Kgirls from photos since I began the hobby. I am a risk taker that knows how to manage risks. Real photos are helpful but not necessary. What I really need is an attractive Kgirl behind the door. I will not boycott when Kgirls and bookers haven't disappointed me that badly. Even B&S booker may still direct me to their better looking Kgirls. Why boycott when there are good Kgirls and reliable bookers around? I did not hear which Kgirls disappointed?
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http://www.theeroticreview.com/info_policies/boardPolicies.asp

Sounds like you're the one doing the selective reading - I clearly said I like such a thread and I will support such a thread. However, I also want orgs to take some responsibility and punishment as well.

But you buried it in your rant and said it more than a little begrudgingly.

Agreed. Last year in Seoul was $200 at Fish Anma. Excellent quality!!!

He can "agree" more disagreeably with a post than most people here actually disagree. It's like it's some kind of point of pride to find "something" to disagree about and his post will focus SOLELY on any points of contention while completely (or almost completely) glossing over the areas of agreement.  

Being a liberal, though there’s nothing really wrong with the basic philosophy, would explain a lot.

Revolutionaries need power, not likability.

that I HAVE to just say it out loud . . . . Bullshit, Rocket.  There is no way you are going to be successful in "punishing orgs" in order to get them to change their behavior.  I have eschewed the ones in LA that have a history of B & S with respect to photos, and do you think, even with my volume level, they are the least bit worried?  The orgs with shady business practices have more lenient screening, so they will have a steady flow of newbie customers no matter what any of the rest of us do.  Many newbies enter the fray from other websites that feature Kgirls, so organizing a boycott here on TER is a fools errand.  Before FOSTA/SESTA, when other websites were also-rans, posting something here carried a little more weight, but until TER gets back to its former market domination, trying to reshape the conduct of orgs through organizing boycotts only on TER will not work.  You and paintthinner are wasting your time and effort.

or am I misreading? The OP, apainter, was really just venting more than anything and has  not really been pushing the thought of a boycott in later posts -- in fact he seems to have stepped back from that with his acknowledgement of venting.

We already have the SPOTY award. Maybe we should add MAAPOTY (though just doesn't have the same ring to is as SPOTY. Maybe MAMAPOTY award and we can call it the MAMA Award for short.)

his OP.  Its not uncommon for people to change their position on something once they realize they are on the unpopular side, so I'm speaking to his initial thoughts which is probably what he REALLY thinks.  If he didn't feel strongly in the first place, why start a thread about it?

and of course I think we ALL know who will be the immediate frontrunner and odds  on favorite to win, if you really want to call anyone even nominated for the "award" a WINNER. lol

So, I’m guessing POTY is Post Of The Year. What does the MAA or MAMA stand for?

I would assume MAA would be "Most Argumentative Asshole" with MAMA meaning something along the lines of "Most Argumentative Most Annoying" lol

I would say that's a pretty accurate assessment.  Lol

Well, I was actually being nice and did not use asshole. Either Most Argumentative and Annoying or Most Argumentative, Most Annoying...

The chances are even worse than you suggest, I think.

That was my interpretation of his comment as well.

So why did you bring it up?

...about being friendly with me once you realized you were on the unpopular side.  We exchanged friendly posts for over EIGHTEEN MONTHS.  So why did it take you over A YEAR AND A HALF to "realize" you were on the unpopular side by being friendly with me when everyone else was hating on me?

Yeah, having a Korean with you most definitely helps. Most foreigners, especially those that don't speak Korean, are usually relegated to using the RLDs. It is possible for foreigners to use escort services, find a foreigner-friendly full salon, or a mediocre anma, but be prepared to pay some high prices.  

I'm literally looking at ads right now in Seoul. One of the top OP (AAMP-type) in Gangnam is $195USD for 90 minutes and 2 shots. In one of the best luxury anmas (spas), it's $230 for 2 shots @ 70 minutes + 40 minutes in the spa. I was actually wrong about the Full Salon (different from Room Salon)... It's around $250USD.  

I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I shouldn't.  I admit it was wrong of me not to pick up on the red flags.  I made a mistake that I truly regret.  I had no idea you were a slime-ball that turned on your friends.  I thought for awhile it was JUST me, but evidently, you fooled a lot of other people here as well before you turned on them.  So yeah, I'm totally embarrassed that I EVER thought you were a stand-up guy.  What else do you want me to say?  Thanks for giving me the extra opportunity to expand on what a dick you are and that I didn't suspect it in the beginning.

...as well before you turned on them."  WHO????  Name five people I fooled.  Name three.  Name two.  That's just your typical bullshit.  I've been posting the same way since the day this board began and for four years before that when the L.A. board was the de facto K-girl board.  I never fooled ANYONE.  Why were you "fooled?"

Can we come up with an award for the poster with the worst reading comprehension?

You've said it loud enough the first time I pitched the idea to you, 5 months ago. Ironically, what you never said loudly is names of sketchy orgs.

You blame me for bad reading comprehension, but then turn around and completely misread my post, probably on purpose, and then justify it by me somehow 'burying' it and having 'wrong' tone. LMAO