Hell ye, in fact the main reason I spoke to the fellow when going down the elevator is because I remembered your stories of doing something similar.
I originally was going to ask the fellow who he visited, instead, I just pointed out that he visited someone and had flowers earlier. Man, he was stuttering a little, and seemed focused on getting out of the elevator. I tried to keep the conversation going even after stepping out of the elevator, he seemed nervous.I assume this fellow was visiting a Kgal, but I hope it wasn't one of you fellows because, flowers 🌺 , it's possible the woman appreciated it, but I have my doubts.
I parked and got the green light, around the same time I noticed a fellow get out of his car 🚗, I waited for him to enter the building, then I exited my car. Noticed he was standing at the elevator with a bouquet 💐 of flowers 🌺 🌹 , maybe I should have waited longer, but I decided to enter. Elevator opened and a resident greeted him with the flowers 🌺, oh man, funny 😂 conversation about thr flowers.
He headed up in the elevator. I waited for the next ride.
Hour later, on my way out we took the same elevator down. This time he had something else with him. I couldn't help it, I spoke to him and said it was nice to run into him again, and pointed out he had flowers 🌺 earlier and this time something else.
I'm assuming he was visiting a Kgal.
I have been given several boquet of roses that some of you have "thought" you we're gifting a kgirl.
Not once, but several times I have been to appt with a lovely kgal and after the session she asked me If I wanted the roses. I said sure. Gifted them to my indy white or latina girls! LOL.
Must be newbie monger. The girls don;t want it. They want $!
They loved it! Your $89.99 - 150.00 roses gave me brownie points to my others!
Thx... Keep giving!
Going to do with flowers? You should ALWAYS give Kgirls chocolate, never flowers. I'm particularly fond of Neuhaus, Leonides or Godiva. See's not so much. Neuhaus is about $60 a pound, the same as the roses. So if you're going to be a chump, give her something that will be a meaning gift when she re-gifts it to one of her regulars, like me. If you don't want to be a chump, add the cost of the flowers or chocolate to her tip. I guarantee she will be more "appreciative" in the effort you get on her service. You'll thank me later.
I love chocolates. Sometimes I come in hungry and will need some energy booster.
And when I see a gentleman with flowers, I would smile to myself and think he is a real casanova. It adds to the fantasy. I respect casanova because I am no ladykiller. I think a gal would appreciate my donation more than anything.
So I agree with CDL, tip her then she will love you even more. Some think there is no need for tipping and I also don't disagree. Treat them well and they will be happy to see you again.
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but NO, you should not bring K-Girls chocolates, I rarely eat chocolates. All you guys who want to "seduce" your paid dates should bring wine, very good and very expensive wine. Don't worry when she doesn't drink it with you, I am sure she will be thinking about you while she is drinking it with her BF later.
I remember how many bottles of wine this GF of mine and her roommate used to get every day by the lovesick puppy dogs that would come to see them. She must have had two cases of different wines when we first got together, but we took care of that problem in a hurry. lol
Like they care about some plant thats going to rot and sugar junk that will turn them to hippos. When they have to suck your dick in a minute.
Reminds me of one ex who during valentines day week would have her cabinet drawer topped with piles of flowers and chocolate boxes. A week later it looked like some rotting forest. She was such a lazy bum and slob she never cleaned it up. Had to clean myself. Didnt like banging her staring at rotting plants matter.
Well, I thought the Korean thing on Valentines Day was for the girls to give their BF flowers (the guys are supposed to man-up on White Day the following month).
Maybe all these guys were just trying to help out in case she had a SO that would be expecting the flowers....
Yeah, pretty thin and totally unlikely.
For guys is Steak and Blowjob Day. Your girl doesn't even have to figure out what to give you. It's already built intl the name.
In Japan, girls give guys chocolate on Valentine's and guys return the favor in March on White day. I have no idea if it works the same way in Korea.
Regardless, like many have already said bringing a kgirl flowers is one of the dumbest things to do. Chocolates are also dumb, but at least I can eat that on the ride home.
If I have a Japanese girlfriend in March I'm not going to get a steak and blowjob, but instead, I have to do something for HER? That's so unamerican!
If you were in Japan, then I would hope you received those in February instead of chocolate. Similar customs as America when you think about it, just in a different order.
I guess I haven't been as lucky as you, but I honestly haven't met a girl that could do both of those things well (and was willing to for me). It has either been one or the other. A few kgirls have offered to cook for me after my appointment, but I have always had to decline due to my schedule. I doubt it would have been steak, but those that offered said they were good cooks.
Yes -- Korea established some type of couples day for the 14th or every month. Most Koreans recognized it for was it is, and call them just that: marketing days. Still February to April seem to be the one's that the public has gone for -- Valentine's Day girls give their BF/love interest flowers/candy, White Day guys give their GF/love interest candies or white chocolate and Black Day (april 14th) singles eat black bean noodles and cry in their soju.
visiting these apt complexes is a monger. It's just as likely (possibly more likely?) that it was a civie.
Just my $0.02...
Billy D
Agree with you, in this situation the circumstances in addition to some detail I left out pointed towards making a visit.
I left the detail out because I don't want to start building a profile for profilers. I'll just say they followed the steps for making a visit.
Not a dumbass like me who have been building a profile for profilers. Sorry, I am making an effort to stop.
I recognized a monger from the description. I was curious what he had with him when he left but I won't ask.
I can be a dumbass, I am kinda of excited at the possibility that you may have seen me.
I've learned it's always better to stay anonymous, not sure 🤔 I do it, but I usually use discretion.
When I pull up somewhere in LA or the OC. Actually at about any hotel I stay at when traveling. I usually see some dude in a car sitting there on the phone texting or waiting around. I never noticed it in the past bunt now I do. Always makes me take an extra look around if I need to hangout waiting for an ok to head up. Usually take a walk and listen to some tunes to get in the zone if I have a bit of a wait.
Average white dude in business casual with ear buds in tends to attract zero attention.
I have never brought anything except a tip with me. They usually seem to like that....
.... of water.
Not even a pint !
Just fun-size.
haha. I never take the parting gifts.
low-key is key.
When I see a white/western dude with flower in an Asians dominated/populated apartment, I know what's up and what he's up to 
too obvious.
Hey now, you are doing racial profiling LOL. The white men can love Asian girls too so what other reason could there be but to see the Asian girlfriend in an Asians dominated apartment?
Even if I look like I don't belong there, I still feel like I am going to see a friend so I just don't care what anyone thinks.
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but our mongers are good actor. I would give them best actor award if possible.
i recall once time... i saw a dude nears intercom trying to get in. We somehow bumped into each other when i walked up to the intercom.
The dude immediately pretended to answer a phone call LOL. I almost laugh my fking ass out and wanted to tell him " hey dude, good acting skill, it's alright, i know what you want".
There is a certain location on Wilshire where many of the girls work out of and start at 11am awhile back.
Once 11am hit. You would see 5-6 guys head towards the elevator. All going to appointments.
Pretty damn funny to see!
Every guy would not look at one another.
Do they all push the intercom individually, or do they all slip in the door after one another?
You were one of the guys, right?
Nope, I make my appt at the 1/2 and get there early sometimes for parking and get to see the fiasco!
Or, my friend lives in that particualr apt complex so I have access to not using the intercom.
With a fit 50-something guy who freaked you out by asking you which girl you were seeing today, that asshole would be me. I always get a deer in the headlines look acciompanied by silence.
I've also done it in OC in the parking lots and garages. The OC guys literally run away in panic. It's great sport. Lol
A learning experience in how to deal with the unexpected. The vast majority of hobbyists have no clue how to blend in when going to a residential incall. This makes it more dangerous for all of us. Everyone needs to learn to be smooth and confident when dealing with strangers at an incall. So while it may seem like an asshole move at first blush, my intent is to get my fellow hobbyists to think in advance about how they will act and what they will say when engaged by a stranger at apartment incalls. If you have rehearsed in your mind what you might say in various scenarios with civilians you will make yourself and the rest of us safer. LE most often find incalls when a neighbor reports suspicious activity after an encounter with a skittish hobbyist, which makes a bust depend in luck, not stellar police work.
Hell ye, in fact the main reason I spoke to the fellow when going down the elevator is because I remembered your stories of doing something similar.
I originally was going to ask the fellow who he visited, instead, I just pointed out that he visited someone and had flowers earlier.
Man, he was stuttering a little, and seemed focused on getting out of the elevator. I tried to keep the conversation going even after stepping out of the elevator, he seemed nervous.
I ran a little over once and as I was leaving, I saw a guy parked right out front. He seemed very anxious and was looking at the ad of the girl I just visited. So many things came to mind to say, but I ended up leaving him alone. I had already delayed him lol that was enough.
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Maybe it's because I don't have a guilty conscience, but I don't get even the least bit nervous in an apartment elevator, hotel lobby, or entering or leaving an incall.
I don't bother rehearsing anything, I would simply say the same thing to you that I would to LE or anyone else who asked me such a question. My answer would simply be "Excuse me?" Followed perhaps with a VERY dismissive "What are you talking about?" if pressed further. Not much to rehearse I am sure you will agree.
I suppose "some" people accept strangers asking inappropriate questions, and worry about their response sounding suspicious. I am not one of those people and I have ZERO problems telling such people to "Go Fuck Themselves" in person as I do here on the internet. If I was in my own building riding up the elevator to my own apartment and someone asked me that question, I would answer the same way. It would be such an off the wall question the only response from someone NOT up to something would be one of confusion as in "What the fuck are you talking about?" or the more polite "Excuse me?" I guess I just have the mindset that I "do belong" and no question from a stranger is really going to change that state of mind. It's the same thing as people "planning" to answer questions from hotel staff, I don't have to "plan" an answer, Hotel employees don't question me, if there are any questions that are going to be asked, I am the one who will be asking them.
I asked for an outcall. She had trouble getting inside so I went to get her. As I came down, I saw her and we smiled at each other.
Suddenly out of nowhere, a woman asked her suspiciously, excuse me, you don't live here, do you? The tone was, what are you doing here? As my girl looked flummoxed for a moment, I smiled and said, she is my friend, what's wrong?
The woman noticed me and said she forgot her key. I called security to help her get back in her place while my girl is still standing in place. Imagine my nervousness because that was my first time doing something I thought was wrong. Once I was assured security would help her and she would be all right, we went back to my place.
Based on that and my personality, my reflex would probably make me say, I am seeing a friend, why are you asking? Then I smile and show my teeth. There better be a good answer or no more question because I don't know what I will say next. But if I think a monger is asking, then it's all good. I may or may not give the name depending on how happy I am that day.
Bad. I cum when she gave me a preview, and cum once again during the p2p.
Cum again when I received a bbbj from her. Cum one last time when we fucked which last about couple mins.
Good shit..
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Best hour ever! Came multiple times? Came after a couple minutes? That's like a marathon for me who would probably explode after a couple pumps, then proclaim, I am done. And lay dead for the remaining hour.
I have had Kgals burst out laughing, say something in Korean to me, then laugh again. Somehow I still think that was cute and laughed right along. At least I made them laugh, you know. That's what I call breaking the ice, and my dignity...
I don't look friendly so no dudes ever talk to me. Only the ladies would greet me and I do likewise with a smile. My eyes only see the pretty ladies. Perhaps that makes me look suspicious but I don't care as long as nobody sees me entering an incall.
I think if CDL asks me, I will have a deer in a headlight look too as I try to recall the girl name. I have enough trouble trying to remember the booker's instruction.
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If someone asks me who I'm visitng today, I will consider saying your mom, then say just running an errand for a friend.
At apartment incalls is averting their eyes when encountering a stranger in the hallway. Nothing makes you look more suspicious. If you belong there, which is the impression you want to give to allay suspicion, you would be friendly and say hello to your neighbors, even if you didn't know them. This is especially important if you're a frequent visitor to the same location. You're likely to encounter the same neighbors more than once.
The dumbest thing LA hobbyists do is sit on the bench in front of some of the locations, eyes glued to their phone, waiting for the booker to give the entry code. You should wait in your car until the code is given and then walk right to the keypad and get it in. Loitering out front draws attention.
I don't mention them and edit my posts to avoid profiling. Yes, I don't like going to a place that draws unwanted attention.
But once the green light hits, I fly like a homing missile to a K-gal no matter what. I have had hobbyists holding the door for me, or following me right in. It's cool as long as they are not loitering before I get there.
There are places where I think I stand out no matter what. At least I won't avert my eyes. My mind is too preoccupied with how I am going to get to an incall to pretend anything.
Damn, I really have very little brain power left when coming or leaving. I know that so just want to be in and out fast.
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Talk about awkward. Was sent by a Booker I had not used before to WLA unit. Given code and apt # told not to knock. Front door was open so I texted her I was in. Went to unit stood in front of door for what seemed like forever with no response. Texted nobody opened door. She says girl doesn't see me. Finally booker realizes sent me to wrong address. That sucked....lucky I didn't knock
I always ask first before I try to knock...
It sucks for me because I don't like any sort of delay. But I forget everything once the door opens.
Same here. Sent to wrong apt number. After a minute or so at the door, and the a couple light knocks on the door, I sent a text to the booker. Oops, sorry, wrong apt number, this is the correct one. Fortunately, there was no answer to the knock. For all I know, it may have been another apt used and the girl called the booker and said there is some strange guy at the door, LMAO. It happens.
The problem is, you have no fucking idea what her name actually is, you only know her hooker name and if you gave that name to LE you have just proven to him that you are a john.
So NEVER tell CDL, or anyone else who you are there to see. It's the same thing if you run into a girl out in public, don't ever address a hooker by name unless you and her are close enough for you to know her real name and even then it's usually a very bad idea unless you routinely socialize with each other outside of P4P.
...as I try to recite some random numbers in my head... I even blurted out the wrong name one time when a K-gal asked me what her name is. What happened afterward was memorable.
Thank God for the fellows here to set me straight. I may remember to channel GaG and say, excuse me?
That's so suspicious. I don't understand this. I go when the booker says I can go.
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to my kgirl regular of more than 7 years. She's there all day and most likely rushed out of her apt to get to work without eating. I know what she likes to eat and so I bring it every time. She likes chocolate on special occasions but only the good stuff. Save your $$$ on flowers and just give it to her in the form of a nice tip.
Seven years? She should be cooking you lunch. Many times I've had some 'lunch dates' after less than seven visits.
With the same girl he might as well marry her, although sometimes that's more expensive. Lol
myfavasian might want to watch out. However, I think most courts would not considered him married as I don't know any K-girls that have been around for seven months, let alone seven years.
I have so many secret I want to share to you guys, but I can't. I also have a couple scandals between mamasan and k girl's roommates.
Sometimes these girls asked me to buy weeds for them.
...Sometimes these girls asked me to buy weeds for them.
Care to share? PM is okay if you would feel more comfortable.
Cheers,
BD
P.S. C-d-L can vouch for my ability to keep my mouth shut (or more accurately, my fingers off the keyboard).
seeing girls that become roommates. I can't name the rule of the booker will know who I am. But I was seeing two girls regularly, and then they became roommates. When I tried to see both on consecutive days twice in one week, a fight broke out that delayed my appointment by nearly half an hour while the booker was trying to sort it out and calm the girls down. Both girls were pissed at me afterward. One didn't want to see me again at all, but relented and texted me after she changed locations again, and the other one took a couple of weeks to get back to the close relationship we had enjoyed before. I have learned to be very careful about seeing roommates. Its not uncommon for me to ask a girl if she has a problem with me seeing her roommate. Sometimes they're jealous. Other times, they take me out and introduce me to her, which is a get-out-of-jail free card to see the roommate.
However, I had one a few days ago where a new roommate just waltzed out into the living room as I was putting on my shoes and introduced herself as I was leaving. It was awkward, and I could see my regular fuming a little, but whatever drama there was took place after I left, so its all good for me, but I won't be seeing the roommate, although I would like to.
is fucking funny. Isn't that the reason some mongers monger? Jeebus! Many can get the jealousy BS at home.
Just my $0.02...
BD
When I first started in this hobby I was requested to bring a Burger king Whopper and French Fries which I politely obliged. She was hungry. lol She sent me to shower by myself and I don't know if she ate it or not. That is how I broke into hobby. She is still around. I was still wet behind the ears and would do anything.