I’ve never done any of this, but am intrigued.  

I don’t know whether I’d rather have an in-call or go in for a ‘massage’, but it is something I’ve thought about more and more.  

How do I find a CMT+ type setup? I’m not necessarily focused on Kgirls, although I’d be happy to give it a try.  

I guess, that after divorce, while I could find someone ‘tonight’ at a bar… I’m kinda interested in a situation in which my needs are met… without further encumbrance.  

So, 2 things…

1. Recommendations on whether connecting with a specific ‘in-call’ woman on TER, Tryst, etc through direct connection

OR

2. Finding a good kgirl massage location that is amenable.  

Money is not an issue. Legality, ie not getting in legal trouble, and cleanliness (no diseases) are my main concerns.  

I’d appreciate your thoughts.

is in Chicago.  If you keep going on to Philly or NOVA, there are better ones.  It comes down to how far are you willing to drive for Kgirl pussy?  Lol

Amanda/Becy has become a semi-regular in Chicago. She's worth the drive IMO.

...because 90% of them  ​don't know jack shit about #1, i.e., connecting with a specific 'in-call' woman on TER, Tryst,
​etc.

 
If money is not an issue, you should definitely consider "indies" AKA non-Kgirls.  The main reason K-fanboys see K-girls is because they are a lot cheaper than other providers.

 
As far as cleanliness (no diseases) goes, you should be aware that K-girls see up to 10 guys a day with only 10 minutes between customers to address their "cleanliness."  Also, fucking their customers without condoms is a lot more prevalent among K-girls than other providers.  

 
There are regional disussion boards where you can post your question.  I'm afraid the Indiana board isn't too active but you can also try the Illinois & Ohio boards.

out of context to make it sound bad.  He hates Kgirls because they are Asian.  He hates Kgirl customers because 1) We prefer Kgirls because we get BETTER SERVICE at a lower price than with American providers, and 2) he has no hope of ever being approved to see a Kgirl.  You should not be influenced by his anti-Kgirl agenda.  Kgirls offer sessions starting at 30 minutes (one hour is most popular) up to as many hours as you want.  Consequently, although infrequent, it IS possible for a Kgirl to see 10 customers in one day when you realize that many of these are going to be 30-minute sessions.  The last time I heard of a Kgirl trying to do 10 one-hour sessions in one day, she ended up on an IV drip for dehydration at the local urgent care and lost the next two days of work, so it's clearly not worth it and they know it, so you should not be swayed from Kgirls by BigP's inflammatory rhetoric.  He has never seen a Kgirl, so he has no first-hand knowledge.  He relies strictly on what others post here and then takes it out of context, or else makes an outlier sound like the norm.  

 
Some Kgirls do offer BBFS, but they are usually identified as PSE or BBFS on their ad page.  Girls that are advertised as GFE (girl friend experience) require a cover for sex, but you will still get a BBBJ, usually with CIM, and DATY if you want these activities.  If there is time left in the session, they do not spend it talking like American girls, they will give you a pretty decent massage.  

 
Kgirls almost always work from a fixed incall location in a large upscale apartment complex.  Usually there are two girls working in adjacent bedrooms within the incall.  You should not confuse these incalls with storefront Asian massage parlors.  They are completely different in regards to ambiance and the caliber of girls that work there, both from an appearance and service perspective.

For escorts you should be looking here or on P411 if you're new to playing in the field. Tryst and the other similar sites seem to have a lot of horror stories. I think that is because the inexperienced look there and get scammed due to naivety. Since you say money is not an option but concerns about legal complications are, you might consider travel. Short flight to Toronto CA which is a much more relaxed setting. You screening can be done basically by telling them what hotel you're in, your first name and the room number.  You can find plenty of options and if you're interested in K-Girls they are plentiful.

 
If you're thinking about AMPs (you probably will never find a real K-Girl, but can find Koreans) you should be looking at Rubmaps or Bedpage (but look for the places that are actual businesses in a commercial building not the independent or agencies with no brand name). Cincinnati might be the closest as I didn't see Indy listed on Rubmaps -- but you might recognize some other locations listed as in you neighborhood.

Bruh

since you stopped by here to troll.  Are you not getting enough attention from your mommy, son, or what?  When was the last time you came here to talk about the pussy you're not getting?  Lol

You should really stop clocking me. It's not a good look.

Kgirls still provide excellent service for the price.  

 
Depending on the kgirl of course, but for independent Asian girls to compete with best service kgirls is difficult.

 
Let's say I want a good DT and a good rimjob, along with msog and of course dfk (before rim) with a cim, on top of an energetic session of cowgirl for at least 10 mins.  

 
I will omit bbfs as it's controversial, and focus on those several things. Well, I've looked and it's not easy to book an independent Asian girl who'd be down to do all of that. And well, yeah price is a factor if the difference is large enough.... If I can get three girls like that in a row for a price of one. Three pussies for three hours usually better than one (depends of course).

 
Obviously if one is into bbfs, there's even less alternatives.

What I'm trying to say is, if you like Asian women, like various "more-than-vanilla" services, kgirls are still the best bang for your buck. That doesn't mean people should exaggerate and advertise them and let  the seller transgressions go, but overall it's a very good value proposition. Oh and I can be anonymous.

 
As much shit as I give the orgs and kgirls and some shills who want to hide the truth, the reality is for an Asian and service lover like myself kgirls are still a fantastic value... although some of that value is going down with price hikes lately.

with a grain of salt...make that a whole salt shaker because CDL is taking poetic license with the truth.

 
CDL keeps saying I hate Asians, yet I've been whitelisted by two Asians and have seen many more.  On the contrary, CDL claims he sees one or two American providers per month but he's never written a review of an American provider.  He has absolutely NO PROOF of ever seeing an American provider.
Poetic License

 
CDL: "(K-girls are) also high volume - up to 11 guys a day..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/re-very-true-but-theyre-also-high-volume---up-to-11-guys-a-day-4519?page=

 
Enough time for "cleanliness???"
CDL: "...at the end of 2008, the standard break was 30 minutes.   A girl had time to do all of the cleanup and prep between appointments and then rest for 15 minutes before the next appointment...Demand exploded from 2012 to  2014 and the bookers started pushing the girls to see more customers in a day so the break time was reduced to 15 minutes.  Then I believe it was booker M in LA around 2016 who first started scheduling ten minute breaks.
TEN MINUTE BREAKS = CLEANLINESS????
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/when-i-started-seeing-kgirls-----18565?frmSearch=1#18565
Do you have a pussy, CDL?  Do you know how long it takes to clean one, much less shower and straighten up?
How about changing the sheets between customers?  American providers do it.

 
Why has the break time been shortened from 30 minutes in 2008 to 10 minutes in 2022?  Isn't it so that K-girls can see MORE customers per day so that the price doesn't go up (which it inevitably had to anyway)?  

about Kgirls in February 2020, when you asked me this question on another board when I suggested your bias against Kgirls was out of frustration because you could not pass screening . . . .

 
"What FACTS do you have that I would ever want to see disgusting, 11 guys a day fucking, disease-carrying, non-English speaking, BBFS cum dumpster K-girls?"

 
What facts do YOU have that Kgirls are disease-carrying, or that none of them can speak English?  Why are they any more disease-carrying than the indies YOU saw back when your dick worked.  Are you saying there are no indies that offer BBFS?  There are no sheets.  They put a cover over the bed and it's changed after every customer.  I call bullshit that if you see an indie at her hotel incall that the sheets are changed between each customer.  If you believe that, I have a bridge I will sell you.  

 
Do you still want to claim you don't have a bias against Kgirls?   Eleven customers a day is only possible if most of them are 30 minute sessions.  So what?  

 
Girls who are GFE have no problem cleaning up completely and thoroughly in 10 minutes.  I have watched hundreds do it.  I still have concerns about PSE girls, but I don't see them, so it's no concern of mine whether they are successful or not.  I will let those that see PSE girls decide for themselves if they are comfortable with the cleanup protocols.  

 
I write reviews of the American indies I see under my alias, just like hundreds of other guys here who don't review under the same handle they post under on the discussion boards.  Many indies are just as biased against Kgirls as you are.  If they knew I was CDL, with over 350 Kgirl reviews, they may not want to see me.  Of course, you already know this because we have discussed it before, so do you repeat this to confirm you are a troll, or do you need to get tested for dementia?  I've asked you this before, but you probably don't remember THAT either.  Lol

 
You always come away from these exchanges looking like an idiot because you have no personal experience with Kgirls.    
 It never fails, and here you are, coming off as a moron yet again.  You thought they used sheets like the ones that don't get changed at hotel incalls with the indies YOU used to see.  Newsflash . . . . In my own experience, Kgirls are much cleaner overall than American indie providers, something you don't know because you have no experience wtih Kgirls.  
 Bwahahahahaha

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maybe you should troll somewhere else?  

...supply a link.  If you notice, when I quoted you I furnished the links so you wouldn't be a crybaby and complain (as you always do) that I took your words "out of context."  But YOU, as is your wont, did not include the link to the thread where I allegedly said those words.  If I did say that quote, then include the link so that anyone could read the ENTIRE thread to see the CONTEXT and see why I said what you allege I said.
What's the matter, CDL, are you afraid of the "context?"

 
I TOO call bullshit that I see American girls at their hotel incall.  I don't.  I see American girls at their homes, condos or apartments.  It may be news to you because of the rundown places you go to, but today's apartments have washers and dryers in the units.  The providers I see often strip the bed and put the sheets in the washer while I'm still there.

 
You say: "Girls who are GFE have no problem cleaning up completely and thoroughly in 10 minutes.  I have watched hundreds do it."  Are you sure, CDL?  Are you absolutely positive?
 Then why did you say this on 5/19/2020:
"The standard break between customers now is  most often 10 minutes.  Show me a Kgirl that says she can do a complete cleaning after CIP, change the linen and clean up from the last customer while preparing for the next one within ten minutes, and I'll show you a liar."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/when-i-started-12-years-ago-in-the-kgirl-scene-----17624?page=1#17664

 
Are there TWO CDL's?  Did someone hack your account?  Were you lying then or are you lying now?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 
Today you say: "there are no sheets" but on 5/19/2020 you said K-girls "change the linen."

 
You keep repeating the Big Lie that I have no personal experience with K-girls despite the fact that over the years I have named the K-girls I have seen.  I have also stated that I stopped seeing K-girls because they became too "org-anized."
As a matter of fact, this recent post could have been written by me as it pretty much mirrors my K-girl experiences:
"12-15 years ago I saw at least 8 different K girls who were mostly fantastic. Cute girls who looked like their pics, uniformly well done boob jobs, wonderful service. And setting up dates was actually easier than with independents.
Those days are long gone, but not forgotten."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/los-angeles-1/agree-on-bitod-336409?page=1#336437

you have ever claimed to have ever seen a Kgirl.  Why is that?  You are creating a false history that does not exist.  You have never claimed to have talked to a booker and have always said you would not see them for the reasons in the quote I posted.  You have been consistent in calling Kgirls disgusting cum-dumpsters throughout your posting history.  When you say reprehensible things like that, even on another board, you should know it's going to come back and bite you on the ass.  (BTW, you couldn't find your post after I said it was February 2020, and you pride yourself on being able to find everything I ever said?  It's on the GD board where you thought no Kgirls fans would discover how wretched you are.)  I also notice that you have not walked back anything you said on the Feb. 2020 post, so we can assume you still hate Kgirls and Asians.  Now you say you have seen some when you did not even mention in your first response to me pointing out your lack of Kgirl experience.  A desperate lie from a guy who is getting his ass kicked.  Go ahead and melt down, you earned it.  

 
Did you miss the part in your link about the cleanup being for CIP, and not GFE.  I am completely consistent.   Were you having reading comprehension problems when you first read it, or are you having them now?  Bwahahahahaha

 
They change the bed covering and the towels, which falls into the category of "linen" for most people.   If you REALLY had seen any Kgirls, you would know this.  If you are just going to make things up, I'm putting you back on ignore.  Show me a link that names ANY Kgirl you ever claimed to see in the past and I won't put you on ignore.  Otherwise, you are no longer worth engaging with because you are just a pathological liar.  Posting someone else's words and hijacking them yourself is just pathetic, saying "this COULD have been me" proves nothing except that you are a liar.  You have lost this one and now you are melting down, like usual.

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Calling someone a troll is hardly scrutiny and that was basically the entirety of your response after your inane diatribe about mommies and children.

At least 90% of the AAMP's I've been to there is always a washer & dryer to clean and dry the towels, for the shower & bed  
    or anything else they want to wash, that is used at the incall!
I'd bet the other 10% have them too, I just didn't see them.

 
    As far as the girls cleaning up, to continue their day, I've seen them start the cleanup in the farewell shower.  
I've even been asked to help with that when the session and chemistry was 5 stars!  
    Of course, it was a playful wash on the outside ^^!
Even when the time is very close to the end, there has never been a super rush for the finish line!
    IMO, these Kgirls manage their time really well!

I agree 100%.  This is ten times cleaner than seeing a touring indie in her hotel room.  I don't care how many stars the hotel has.  They are not changing the sheets in between customers.  That's why when I'm seeing indies while traveling on business, I will pay a little extra to have them do outcall to MY hotel room where I know we're the first ones to use the bed and everything is clean.  

..of anyone claiming that the normal Indy experience is even close to as clean (from the floor to the linens to every nook and cranny of the girl) as the normal kgirl experience.

 
Sure. It is possible, if you’ve only seen two providers in your life:
One kgirl.  
And one non-kgirl independent.  
And you got extremely unlucky and found a kgirl who was lazy and just learning the ropes.  
And your Indy was on the extreme most germaphobic end of the spectrum (as if any of those are actually working since Covid came around)

 
At that point I’d be willing to concede that it is definitely possible to find an independent non-kgirl who pays as much or more attention to hygiene and cleanliness than a particular kgirl who is the exception to the kgirl rule.

 
Before I started seeing kgirls I mostly saw independents. Though when I traveled to other countries I did see a number of non-kgirl agency girls.

 
I have also worked with Asian companies (including multiple weeks long trips to Asia), mostly in Japan and Korea, for quite a few years. The Korean work ethic, and cleanliness ethic, is nearly insane. When I was younger I worked 18 hour days almost every day of the week including Saturday.  I traveled to and worked in about 20 countries. The only place I ever worked where it was easy to find someone who not only kept up with me but would sometimes stay up longer than me (I blame jet lag - but still) to get the job done was Korea.  

 
Korea is also the most Confucian country in Asia by far that I know of. And that causes a high cleanliness standard that is noticeably better than any other country in Asia. Though Singapore’s streets can be a bit cleaner sometimes.

 
These are people who have such a hard time dealing with failure that they have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. They are fanatics about working hard. It is quite common when working with your Korean colleagues you’ll hear them say to each other “work hard”.  

 
So, please feel free to ignore someone who clearly doesn’t know anything about Koreans, much less kgirls, and tries to tell you that as a group they have a cleanliness or hygiene problem. That is complete nonsense. There is always a bell curve, sure. But that Kgirl cleanliness bell curve has a much greater area under it than the curve for any other group of working girls I’ve seen.

 
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But I’m sure you can figure out what I meant rather than have any of us waste time teaching math on a monger board.

new pussy to talk about?  I'm not surprised.  Looks like I struck a nerve.  Lol

that anyone who has actually seen a Kgirl might have something to complain about during a session, but it could not possibly be general cleanliness of the Kgirl and the location.  I've been to some Indie apartments in the past that had so much junk laying around I thought I was having sex in a storage locker.  Lol

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Your logic is impeccable. But, not surprising, coming from someone with a lot of time on their hands. If i'm not posting on here, it's because I'm occupied with pussy, which seems to be in short supply for you given your posting frequency.  

P.S. As usual, your blundering and unaware self fails to recognize that your comments are of a childish and stupid nature. It would actually be annoying, if it weren't so sad.

Who have you seen in the past four weeks?  Go ahead with your bullshit excuse why you can’t name names.