Submitted for your consideration and approval...

Submitted for your consideration and approval...

A kgirl outcall in vegas is 400 baseline (in many places some upsells would be extra). So its not like 500 price is that outrageous. Vegas is not a good town for value, that's for sure.

If you’re saying YMMV girls are the best, I completely agree. Give me a strong willed YMMV girl with a temper every time.  

Worth to note that "YMMV" is also a term many choose to hide behind when describing a session that didnt go well.

I'll stick to Joe South's version.

Why thank you mrfisher for the share!  I've never heard of Joe South or his rendition of 'Games People Play'.  I enjoyed it. ' God grant me the serenity to remember who I am'.  Poetry and depth is what I strive for and that song, my monger brother, is both poetic and deep.  

C'mon Rocketbro!  That's cup half full thinking.  We've all met sour lemon GPS working girls; eh?  When handed a bag of sour lemons, I say rise up to the challenge and make sweet and oh so delicious lemonade!  

Rocket has a habit of focusing on what he's "missing", not what he's getting. You are also right about the importance of personality and the social game  . . . . . the monger's, not the girl's.  I have said before that you get out of the session what you bring to it, and unfortunately, the generation coming up that spent their youth courting girls though texting will never understand the importance of  having "game" and what a difference it makes in maximizing GFE with a Kgirl.

Yeah yeah yeah, as usual blame the monger(s) and not the girl for what we're getting, heard this a million times before. I'm sure if a restaurant serves you half-assed food, you'll focus on piece of bread and some butter that was indeed ok. And the glass of wine that is not actually made in the restaurant.

Eeeerrrrr.....

C'mon Rocketbro

Not about what *we’re* getting.

My point is no amount of game is going to change lack of skill... or make a frog look a princess.  

Admitting you're about "you" and not "us" is a fairly good first step. I may not agree with the concept, but I respect it a heck lot more than those who pretend they care about "us" l, but in reality it's about "them".

It’s the most important step in this pursuit.
Too many times I’ve had to protect myself, and those with whom I have personal relationships, from the actions or consequences of actions of other mongers.  
Reviews are great. But it is critical to always remember that this is not a team sport. When the rubber hits the .. we are each the only one who can keep ourselves and those we care about safe.
That said, whenever I can safely do so, I will always try to help out others.

If all her previous reviews state CFS and you get BBFS, if she is known as a CBJ girl and you get BBBJ, or in your case if she doesn't kiss clients but she kisses you, you are doing both yourself and her a disfavor by mentioning it in a review.

board history has shown from my past posts on this subject, I think there is a special place in hell for guys who "out" YMMV girls.  There is a reason they are not advertising like the other PSE girls.  Its because its NOT on the regular menu for all customers. You're getting a special favor and she expects you to keep it private.  I'm always amazed reading some of the bareback discussion boards on other sites where some guy outs a girl that he got BBFS from, a few others say they were tapping her, too, and then the next three guys say she is covered full service only and its not on her menu anymore.  DUH!!!!  It NEVER WAS on her menu.  She was doing something special for a select group of regulars and one of them betrayed her trust, so now NO ONE gets BB.  She cuts off everyone because one asshole couldn't keep his mouth shut and his ego demanded that he brag about doing her bare.  Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!!

I have dated literally dozens of TER reviewed providers and I have had hundreds of guys asking me who they are, Can you even imagine the abuse these girls would be getting if any of them were to be revealed as  GaGambler's girlfriend? (Or CDL's for that matter)  I will NEVER reveal to anyone but my closest friends the names of any of the providers I have dated over the years. Some things are NEVER meant to be shared.

I agree completely.

her a "few" (Lol) times on the board, I have received PM's asking who my outside Kgirlfriend is.  Even if I broke up with her, I would not contribute to a disruption of her future business by revealing her name, like you say, to anyone but my closest and most-trusted friends.  There are some lines you just don't cross, regardless of the circumstances.  

analogy because for him, its just comparing one piece of meat to another.  Objectification's finest moment.  This is why so many young reviewers only tell us what the girl DID, and nothing about the social aspect.  Is she fun and playful?  Was her English good enough for her to engage in witty banter and trading flirts?  The social skills are what sells the GFE and makes for a good session.  If the monger doesn't have any of his own, the girl is not likely to respond in kind.  

but remember his strike out rate is one in three.

I don't objectify anyone. I pay for service provided by human beings and I treat the human beings who provide it as human beings - always kindly and with a smile. But I do evaluate service based on the job they do. A good guy or a girl is not a profession, sorry.  

This is why I feel like YMMV is too broad of a term.

YOU would be receiving if you suddenly got so stupid. lol

you will soon realize that the glass is always full.

The glass is always full mostly to people who have bad vision or want it to be full badly.

Elaborate on what ?

I agree with these as well. Some things are not meant to be shared, absolutely.

Alright Rocketbro, you took the time to respond to my post and I'll take the time to respond to your rebuttal.

in a PM to a guy you trust is that its going to work its way through the community of "trusted hobby bro's" one person at a time until it reaches a guy who trusts everybody, and he gives it to someone that shouldn't be trusted.  Then it gets made public.  I'm much more circumspect than I was in the beginning about giving out info in PM's.  

What say you mr.fisher?

I am with Rocketbro on this one. I think YMMV is just an excuse some people use.
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It's very consistent with me. I come to make that one hour the best hour I can for the both of us. I have no interest in what happen after that one hour. I like to see new girls and I repeat when they were fantastic.
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YMMV is my excuse when others complain they didn't get the same performance.

"Walk a Mile in My Shoes"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUe_1vWeyzQ

But why? Why would I spend my time and money try to make something work when it isn't working? I already spent money, and I don't believe in sunk costs or gamblers fallacy.

I'd say BB and Greek +any other fetishes are in the same boat. But for things that are expected as baseline services such as dfk, cim and so on, it's fair game to point them out.  

Great addition to the thread Papa babo!  Keep it up and I'll not have anything cross to say.

Buy the whole day in Vegas, 13 hours, and you get a discount ... have done that 2x so far.  Priceless.

Hey man,

Yeah, let's all welcome luvaznla or luvazn or maudiver or whatever the fuck he calls himself nowadays.  

I’d love to hear a report from you on how those whole day sessions went sometime.

It warms my hear to know you love me so much to follow me around.  

I flew to Vegas twice last fall to see Nana (then Ivy at clublovelinelv.com).  All day sessions both times and it was fabulous.  We had time to explore part of the strip, ate very well in some nice restaurants and then had plenty of time in the room together.  All day at the agency is 2pm-3am or 13 hours.  Rack rate is $400/hr outcall.

Remember how on E.M. I told you orgs should stay in their lane when advertising and you laughed about it?

Again, you're spending your time focusing on me and not the girls.  Why is that?  I'm not interested in being pen pals with you.  We've tried that and it always ends up in your toilet and I have to flush you away.

For me, just as you say in your post, I’d have to know and really like the girl - as well as truly enjoy her company outside of naked time - before I’d be willing to spend a whole day with her. Much less actually pay for it.  

but welcome to TER Kgirl central.  It seems from this post you and I might have some things in common.  Lol

It's funny since your first TER post is a reply to me, and on another forum you sent me unsolicited pms and asked for a way to do illegal things that dont relate to hobbying...

I support your efforts to be pro-monger Rocketbro; and I'm definitely not cool with snitching and / or deception of any type.  I'm glad you speak your truth and I know you may not feel the love sometimes; I do my part.  I know I'm a bit eccentric and over the top but it's my style; it's time to admit I'm an old FUCK.  Ha ha

Wow, you really do love me.  I have to admit, this brings tears of joy to my eyes.

And yes, I've tried to engage you respectfully numerous times but there's never a happy ending.  I prefer to spend my time and energy focused on the girls, maybe you should try that sometime.

Final thought.  I think we'd all be amazed, surprised, and perhaps even thrilled if you actually posted about a girl that you have seen.  You seem to prefer talking about girls that you haven't seen so you are providing little direct useful information to this community.  Maybe you don't see girls and, if so, perhaps a different forum is more your style.

I've spoken a lot about many girls I've seen, on this very board. Many of them.  

We've had a pretty decent run. Before, you know, you ran with my secret and snitched on me behind my back. I've spent my time voluntarily cleaning up that forum, and that's what I got the minute I cleaned your advertisement of an org that didn't belong in that forum at all, and belonged in the ads forum.

Yawn...."Rocket Out"

What I find more interesting are the PMs I've received, noting your misogynistic and narcissistic nature, which is apparently clear and obvious to everybody except you.

First you say I don't see girls and am not useful to the community... and don't talk about the girls.  

I was referring to how other guys/handles feel about you in these forums.  I abstained from voting.

Listen, I actually agree we should do our own thing. However, I consider fake reviews and not-so-subtle advertising my thing too. Don't expect me to just stand back.  

How about some  6s and 7s and some real intel this time ??

Man, I feel sorry for you.  I don't see girls who are 6's or 7's.  Sorry buddy.

rarely even open reviews that are 6 and below, so I have mentioned before that writing them is a waste of time, but of course, there was push-back from the guys who believe a 5 is average and a 6 is above-average.  Maybe in theory, but not in reality.

Considering that maui sees nana whose average score on this site with a decent sample size is below 7 in both looks/performance (and that's with his three or four 8/9ish factored in)... and considering he gets the VIP perks of sampling new girls before anyone else as the first customer of the tour, I'd say the chances of him seeing girls who are 7 or 6 is pretty high. He just won't talk about it.

Damn, all the speculation about me makes me feel so fucking special.

Nana's (BTW she's back to vnf after being Nara for what, three days?) below average scores on this site isn't exactly speculation. It's a fact. Your several reviews stating you saw her are also a fact.  

For the nth time, you just don't get it.

If you really wanted to avoid me, you wouldn't reply to my post that was addressed to CDL.

rear-ended, stay off the TS board.   Lol

Or maybe in his case, he backed into it. lol

Can we all agree that having two naked mongers doing a tag team with two naked and willing kgirls is NOT gay?!?!

Agreed. Some people think rimming is gay too, when it involves a woman caressing your genitals. I never got that. People got too many insecurities lol

I will NOT be judgmental until AFTER I read the review and see who did what to whom.  Lol     There are reviews I've read of guys doing DP and both stuffing their dicks together into one pussy at the same time.  I said then and I say now that if two guys want to rub their dicks together, do they really need the girl there just to make a "feasible" argument that its NOT gay to rub their dicks together?   Your review will tell us everything, I'm sure, and if there was no gay activity, then I will be the FIRST one to say it was a gang bang with NO gay activities. Fair enough?

I’ll weigh in here... for whatever it may be worth... DP is such a strange concept to me because your dick is rubbing another dick... so half your “friction” or “pleasure” is another dude’s dick... not for me... I mean I’ll do DP in separate holes... but even if my balls touch that wouldn’t be my idea of fun... I have always wanted to be part of a Blow Bang as long as I don’t touch other dude’s genitals I’m good!

the same as most guys.  I agree with your reasoning that is you are on opposite ends of the girl, sort of spit-roasting style, its not gay.

My fave Booker is BACK!   Joann!

I've heard some rumors about this too. I hope they dont come back with that LA swag and raise prices, lol.

Tiana texts me invitations, often, to partake of her kgirls.  I reply 'I only have eyes for you, my dear!!'  I haven't sessioned with Tiana in years....

This an official confirmation that Tiana runs SA?

Sean says I shouldn't post after 9 pm and I believe it was after midnight...

Submitted for your consideration and approval...

I am not into "two dicks in a bed" no matter how far our dicks stay apart, but I don't care if others enjoy it. By the same token I also am not about to do a DP under ANY circumstances, and while it sounds a lot more gay than what you just described, I still don't care if others enjoy it.  

I don't wanna have sex with another guy.  But I do watch hetero porn, and see guys and dicks all the time doing some lass -- even gang bangs.   So just having some other dick in the room isn't going to upset me (I've never done a MFM threesome.)  My focus is going to be on the chick.  As if virtual reality porn.  Gay is what is in your head.  If you are doing a gal and thinking about a guy, that's gay.

If you are a guy and you have a dick in your ass, it's not what you have in your head that makes you gay, it's the dick in your ass. ROFLMFAO