K-girls

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coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 4687 reads
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1 / 37

A trusted friend had an appointment with Rion/Gemma pre-booked for Saturday (yesterday) and the booker cancelled him late Friday by telling him Gemma quit because she's tired of being hounded for BBFS.  If you saw her this past week and asked for BBFS, then YOU are part of the disease that is costing us our best girls.  Thanks for nothing to all the scumbags.  YOU know who YOU are.  

teonada 23 Reviews 457 reads
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2 / 37
Sloc44 6 Reviews 411 reads
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3 / 37
dancebbq09 130 Reviews 659 reads
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4 / 37

I find it hard to believe a pro hooker from korea would get pissed off and quit.  Bbfs demands  is a fact of life for a hooker in korea.  So every kgirl has been pressured and pestered by korean men back in her homeland so kgirls are used to it.  And no doubt most have done bbfs.  So she suddenly comes to US and gets scared and/or pissed off and quits?  That i find hard to believe when the guy can just get black listed.

From my expereince its always other reasons girl quits.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 547 reads
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5 / 37

The booker lie?  Gemma is certainly not the first, and unless the scumbags stop harassing the girls, she won't be the last. Personally, I think it's courageous of the booker to speak up about it.  If you hobby at even half the the level I do, you've already been hearing for months about various girls leaving because they're being pressured for BBFS.  Top tier girls can work anywhere they want, so they don't have to put up with it.

PORNSTAR69 216 Reviews 525 reads
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6 / 37

There was a close friend that saw her and he didn't even asked for it and got it from her I was also booked with her and when I got there they try to switch girls on me so I don't play that for people getting it should keep it to themselves and priVate the girls also should shut down if they don't want to do it she was great but there has to be professionalism in this hobby I don't play the switch girls game my time is valuable and I do my research before I see these girls . Just a thought and just the fact the business that some of us generate for these girls because some of us are more trusted than others and some of the stories that she told me from the other places she been I think there is more to this story I wish her the best ...

Quintessa66 33 Reviews 564 reads
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7 / 37

I will concur with CDL on this one.  Top tier K providers who take their jobs "seriously" have told me personally that its very difficult to have lasting career in this business if you have a BBFS reputation.  Its purely the "Image" itself of being recognized as a BBFS provider that devalues your stock shall we say....or position as a provider.  Don't forget.....the professional "Gentlemenly" "Pay to Play" clientele will always outweigh the "Fucknut BBFS Seeking" "Pay to Play" clientele in this market.  The "Fucknut BBFS Seeking" Pay to Play dickheads have absolutely no sense of loyalty to the provider and therefore will never be a part of the "core" of regulars that any "serious" provider with a good business sense can hope to cultivate.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 572 reads
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8 / 37

A girl has CHOSEN to favor someone with BBFS, it's the lack of honor and chivalry among some hobbyists that are so insecure about their manhood that they have to tell everybody about it.   The outing by scumbags is what causes them to leave, not the fact that they allowed BBFS by one or more guys. I agree that the girl is partly culpable because she chose to trust a dickwad who shouldn't be trusted, but that still doesn't justify the guy blabbing about it.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 366 reads
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9 / 37
dancebbq09 130 Reviews 638 reads
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10 / 37

Hookers and bbfs are like good vs evil.  As Gem told his master in the Dark Crystal one cannot exist without the other.

Bbfs was happening and guys getting black listed since you and i was even born.  But now theres this sudden mass invasion of dirtbag bbfs seekers driving kgirls out left and right?.   Girls cone and go for weird reasons.  Some ridiulous.   Yeah bbfs seekes are aholes but you suggestimg theres some mass ahole invasion is little overkill thats all im saying.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 578 reads
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11 / 37

The last few years you have cut way back on your hobbying frequency.  You've said so in your posts. You need to get out more and find out what's REALLY going on. There IS an invasion of assholes and there are scummy websites with boards full of these guys outing girls who may have trusted a guy with BBFS.  

GaGambler 478 reads
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12 / 37

I GUARANFUCKINGTEE you, if I were fucking any woman bareback, the last fucking thing I would do is tell any of you fuckers who it was. Why in the world a guy who is already playing a game of Russian Roulette would want to put extra bullets in the gun is beyond me.

All sex has risks and BBFS has more risk than most, the less guys a woman has BBFS with, the less risk it is to engage in BBFS with her with the ideal number being just one. Every additional guy she fucks bareback increases her chances, and by extension every other guy she is barebacking of getting something really nasty in the process. DUMB DUMB DUMB.

Just who are these fucktards? and can't they be outed to the bookers so they can be blacklisted? Or do some of the bookers/k-girls actually encourage this type of thing as you alluded to the other day in an effort to get more business?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 508 reads
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13 / 37

Your Russian Roulette example is right on point.  It would be ironic if a guy someone tells about a certain girl is the one to give a disease to a girl that then gives it to the blabbermouth.  Or would that more properly be "poetic justice?"

I give a lot of business to certain bookers here, and get some priority from a few, which is a perk I value because of my tight schedule, but I have NEVER had a booker suggest I see a particular girl because she has an open menu, or asked if I was interested in that sort of thing, but that doesn't mean it isn't going on from some stories I've heard.  That's why my comment last week that a booker might say "My girls don't do that, but with a wink."  The booker doesn't have the same thing at stake as the girls, so its not difficult to imagine a different agenda with a booker that might be at odds with that of a girl working there, but If I found out a booker was outing specific girls to hobbyists WITHOUT THE GIRL'S PERMISSION, then she/he wouldn't get another dime from me.  I just don't know who it might be because I don't talk to bookers about any girl's menu.  

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 578 reads
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14 / 37

A well know K-girl leaves and you question the reasons why?  Maybe because you out her, drive some temporary demand, but ultimately shot your own selves in the foot because she leaves?  You boys are definitely dumber than a bag full of hammers.  Call me rude, crude, or obnoxious, but I can see this from 3000 miles away.  

-- Modified on 3/26/2017 8:42:55 PM

dantananot 12 Reviews 380 reads
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15 / 37


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Ladmo 435 reads
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16 / 37

Exactly.  

I really wish that when some fucktard pressures a girl for this that she would immediately stop the session, call the booker on the spot and BL the guy and THEN tell him to get the fuck out.

If that happened a few times, it would certainly reduce the problem. The only business that the girls would lose would be the bottom-feeders that they don't want to deal with anyway.
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
A girl has CHOSEN to favor someone with BBFS, it's the lack of honor and chivalry among some hobbyists that are so insecure about their manhood that they have to tell everybody about it.   The outing by scumbags is what causes them to leave, not the fact that they allowed BBFS by one or more guys. I agree that the girl is partly culpable because she chose to trust a dickwad who shouldn't be trusted, but that still doesn't justify the guy blabbing about it.

HiddenSecretID 536 reads
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17 / 37

I don't get the deal with bbfs. It's so risky for both party. I would assume the girl will stop the session and call booker to blacklist the guy at the spot if he seeking for bbfs . I mean the term itself is crazy.

Luv-Kit2 431 reads
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18 / 37

just imagine those poor young rookies, bullied by a big guy! Scumbags give all of us a bad name.

Lotsoffun 85 Reviews 405 reads
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19 / 37

Maybe we need a couple of dozen cases of STD's in LA to cure the bbfs shit. I suggested that you don't do it and if you do, we'll keep it to yourself. I assume the same arrogant fools "it can't happen to me" are the ones having bbfs. Heck, p2p has sufficient risk. So a kgirl has bbfs with 6 or 7 men a day. Those men have had bbfs with others. The math is similar to germs on a door knob. This whole topic seems absurd

Sloc44 6 Reviews 448 reads
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20 / 37

are you talking about?

Posted By: Iluvasians58
A well know K-girl leaves and you question the reasons why?  Maybe because you out her, drive some temporary demand, but ultimately shot your own selves in the foot because she leaves?  You boys are definitely dumber than a bag full of hammers.  Call me rude, crude, or obnoxious, but I can see this from 3000 miles away.  

-- Modified on 3/26/2017 8:42:55 PM

Elohim8 63 Reviews 460 reads
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22 / 37

This sucks -- I had never seen Gemma under any of her names so if she left only after a short time because LA is more hassle than it is worth, that is discouraging.  It is impossible for us to control content on other boards, so what is the fix?  We can angrily call out the purported idiots saying stuff but that can only go so far.  I always assumed that the bookers and the girls have had some methods or systems in place for dealing with BBFS issues, so perhaps those have broken down or never really existed.  Good luck brothers.

Luv-Kit2 537 reads
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23 / 37

I'd instruct the Kgirls this way. For a guy who requests BBFS,
a) if he politely does it for the 1st time, just say no. If he tries a 2nd or 3rd time, we'll BL him;
b) if someone applies much pressure on you, stop and call me right away. I'll deal with him.

A Kgirl once told me an experience. A guy insisted on Greek, and claimed that the booker promised. The girl immediately put the booker on the phone with him, and resolved the problem. Just the thread of BL will stop the reckless behavior. Btw, that booker, J, was known to be the best no nonsense type. Unfortunately she retired a couple years ago.

GaGambler 568 reads
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24 / 37

but I just don't see how girls can have BBFS with EVERYBODY, especially a bunch of dick heads who's goal is to have BBFS with as many women as possible with out a major outbreak of STD happening sooner rather than later.

I agree completely that the odds are just like germs on a door knob.

clssyguy 24 Reviews 437 reads
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25 / 37

This is so very true--the risks increases exponentially when hobbyists and providers are engaging in bbfs. I don't normally contribute to this board, but have become increasingly concerned about these ridiculous requests for bbfs and any willingness to provide this.
If you've been hobbying long enough, you will get an STD, as I have. Its no fun and takes you out of the game. After this, I've taken special precautions but will now have to take even more given the bbfs concerns.  
These guys are ruining it for the rest of us and bookers should be harder on these folks because in the long run, it will hurt their business model by losing top providers, driving more cautious hobbyists away, and sidelining those who catch STDs.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 364 reads
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26 / 37

but maybe he's suggesting the entire west coast.

Billy D 65 Reviews 390 reads
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27 / 37

I've seen one of the sites dedicated to the f*cktards and it IS f*cking frightening. Those dumb f*cks are banging skanks that advertise on Back Page and Craig's List; I've even seen a thread about street walkers for f*ck's sake. I seriously hope their f*ck sticks wither and fall off.

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 352 reads
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28 / 37

Not every West Coast city has a board with a thread dedicated to this topic.

phallacy 46 Reviews 406 reads
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29 / 37

Even worse in the Bay Area as long BBBeauties lists attest. My ATF recently cut a San Jose tour short when she encountered this BS and says she will never consider the SF area again. She claims it is fueled by an influx of North Korean girls.

trimix123 55 Reviews 533 reads
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30 / 37

of my regular this morning. After we were done with business, I told her about guys asking kgirls for BBFS, and she nearly exploded in anger.  Apparently, someone mentioned her name here that she offered this service and it was not true.  I have been seeing her regularly for several years and we always play safe with condom.  Just to let you all know that guys are making up stories that are hurting kgirl's business.

As.Good.as.It.Gets 564 reads
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31 / 37

creampie eaters (fresh or overnight). I think that's pretty gross so I am out. I am not seeing any more K-girls. I don't know how anyone can enjoy themselves if they do not know who is offering BBFS but know it's not rare.

LLPeter 16 Reviews 482 reads
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32 / 37

This a tough gig. There are jerks on both ends. I have seen a few. Use common sense, take precautions, Let the girls BL the hard heads. This can't be a new issue. Strange issues. Alternative facts. I am going to see my favorites, and I hope they can handle there end.

teonada 23 Reviews 374 reads
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33 / 37
BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 420 reads
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34 / 37

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or booker or some other time. We are the change that we seek. Let's discuss this with any Kgirl we like:

a) be careful doing BBFS because guy will tell everyone
b) call booker if guy won't take no for an answer (if the people cannot trust the agency to do the job for which it exists - to protect them and to promote their common welfare - all else is lost, j/k?)
c) ask booker to BL guy who demands unwanted BBFS, or at least not to let him see you again
d) repeated hobbyists tend to avoid girls who offer BBFS (a little FUD?)
e) the law pays more attention to girls who offer BBFS (a little FUD?)

Gentlemen may want to review more so those BBFS guys won't influence with fake BBFS reviews or low scores just to get back at a girl. Comrades, today is a big step in our march toward safe sex.

The shift to a cleaner hobby won't happen overnight, and it will require tough choices along the way, like buying expensive Skinless condoms.

But the debate is settled. BBFS has always existed, why is it a big problem now?

woody01200 189 Reviews 418 reads
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35 / 37

Heard several times, even from providers themselves that they get pissed off and tell bookers to bl dudes demand bbfs. If they are pissed enough, they'd quit and take off. Not a unknown fact at all.

mufftime 270 Reviews 352 reads
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36 / 37
taquitoguy 265 Reviews 365 reads
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37 / 37

Agree with this. Recently saw one of my ATF's with a horrible review and low score. Saw her a couple of days later ad she asked me if I saw the review. She told me the client wreaked of marijuana and insisted he had seen her before and she had smoked with him. She said he smelled also of bad body odor and didn't want to shower. She tried to service him with a BJ/HJ but he couldn't get hard and finally got semi hard got on top and tried to bang her w/o a condom. She told him she wasn't comfortable and he should leave and he basically threw a couple of bills at her. Guys like that just kill it for others.

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