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misterohlala1 4 Reviews 1096 reads
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but some people feel that its offensive,maybe because it takes away from the experience/fantasy.  I personally would rather have them count it to make sure they feel safe that I won't stiff them.

randomvr301 1014 reads
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2 / 33

Recently I saw this provider who was visiting and staying in a hotel in Orlando.    She mentioned that the previous customer had left the envelope with $100 less.    She checked after he had left but by the time she put her clothes back and went down he was log gone.   When she called him several times later and daily for a week, he never answered the phone.    After paying for her agency (they did not help her) she made $25.

I check my pay stub every other Friday although I get it by direct deposit.   It is just human and you worked for it.

Go ahead and do it.   You will not offend anyone, if anyone does he can leave.

xxldog24 126 Reviews 1408 reads
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3 / 33

I would consider it rude. Put it in your purse, excuse yourself to the restroom to freshen up and count it there.

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 981 reads
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4 / 33

have them leave it in the bathroom, and after they have gone there, you go in, count, and freshen up yourself.

Swim

shammer29 9 Reviews 1087 reads
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5 / 33

I've not had a lady count $$ in front of me. There are numerous ways to avoid that. I know that there are all kinds on both sides of the hobby. I like to think that I do enough homework to not select a ride that is other than a Caddy. Hopefully the ladies that allow my presence have done similar homework and feel the same. Likely a very rose glass view but this is a fantasy--right?

sajer1 13 Reviews 913 reads
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6 / 33

The envelope in the bathroom is the best way. However if someone hands your the envelope directly, simply say thank you,let me put this in a safe place , take your purse or whatever head to the bathroom, count it and your done.

Posted By: tampajessicalee
That's always been acceptable, but the cash was just handed it to me. I'm expected not to count it?  It really kind of darkened what should have been a great review.    
   
 I like to know before the session how long I'm being kept for, if there's a tip for an extra, I'm not accused of pocketing if there was a mistake in counting, and I've had friends that were handed empty envelopes by people who were whitelisted.

HotCougarMilf See my TER Reviews 1222 reads
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7 / 33

homework and proper screening on the gentleman, you wouldn't have done that. Also, do you not worry about LE?

I never touch the envelope until my client leaves. That is standard practice.

2Magician 81 Reviews 973 reads
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8 / 33

My take is entrapment by LEO. Money is never discussed BEFORE meeting, something about prostitution, LOL! Most guys don't mind, I don't, I like to take care of business then get to the fun!
Some guys feel offended that you don't trust them! WTF? You just met a stranger and are handing them 2-5 huskies?
 

Posted By: shammer29
I've not had a lady count $$ in front of me. There are numerous ways to avoid that. I know that there are all kinds on both sides of the hobby. I like to think that I do enough homework to not select a ride that is other than a Caddy. Hopefully the ladies that allow my presence have done similar homework and feel the same. Likely a very rose glass view but this is a fantasy--right?

fldream 16 Reviews 851 reads
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9 / 33

don't count it in front of the client, it's tacky.

bushyannette See my TER Reviews 956 reads
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10 / 33

I have a few ways depending on how things play out.. if I am covering the room I use part of the donation. So i count it there. Other times I glace at the bills N count with my figure tips while I keep eye contact with the client as we talk.

SimpleTruth 964 reads
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11 / 33

Personally, I have not been offended the few times a provider has counted the money in front of me.

On the contrary, I HAVE been in a situation when a provider counted it after taking the envelope into the bathroom at the end of the session and she claimed I shorted her $40. Now, I am hype aware of counting the donation prior to the appointment, I always re-count it at least twice to confirm.  I have always had the correct donation on hand.

I could only conclude that this provider decided to get a little more out of me.  I gave her extra money that I had brought with me as a tip if the experience warranted it.  It hadn't, but I may have repeated at some future time.

Unfortunately, by the way she handled the situation, I have chosen to never call her again.  No big deal either way, but it was a frustratingly uncomfortable position to be in.

Also, I have had providers tell me that they have even had repeat clients whom had always been gentlemen in previous appointments later try to short them either a little or a lot.  The"gentlemen" relied on the assumption that the provider felt comfortable enough that the donation wouldn't be counted until after the client was out the door.

To each their own.  Do I prefer not having the money blatantly counted? Of course. Do I blame a provider for trying to be upfront about it?  Not in the least.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 1019 reads
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12 / 33

the guy putting the cash in an envelope.  Not a good thing.

Providers need instructions on their website to indicate something like--"Upon arriving at my incall, please go to the restroom to freshen up and place your ENVELOPE on the restroom counter."  Once the guy leaves the restroom, the provider goes into the restroom to freshen up, change, etc. and quickly counts the envelope.  Assuming both have done their homework re. screening, there should not be an envelope with $40 less than expected.

Only once in over 11 years has a provider counted the money in front of me.  She did not receive the KK seal of approval and she did not get a 2nd request for an encounter.

HarryWotton 11 Reviews 877 reads
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14 / 33

by just handing you the money that way.  Sure, you could have then gone into the bathroom to count it, but what would be the point, he had just handed you the wad anyway?

This summer I had the opposite happen twice, with each lady being half way out of the hotel room to then realize that they had not taken the envelope.    I must be so hideous that they were really in a hurry to get out of there! :)
Posted By: tampajessicalee
I just was called tacky for counting money someone gave me in front of him. I honestly dont ever see doing business any other way. Any suggestions for confirming in front of the client things are/n't right?  It's important that everyone feels good, and I'm bummed that something I saw as standard procedure broke the mood of what I thought was a good meeting.

-- Modified on 11/6/2014 3:48:34 AM

HarryWotton 11 Reviews 1034 reads
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15 / 33

You are right about the envelope, I think people have a misperception about it, but oh well, as long as we try to stick to TER and the verification sites, we should all be reasonably safe on both sides [knocks on wood].  

Posted By: tampajessicalee
Ya...It was a wad of smaller bills, and if it was in the bathroom I would've just done it there....  
   
 I'm not quite sure why anyone things envelopes or handing the money directly or leaving it on a counter has anything to do with law enforcement, but it changes NOTHING on either side legally speaking.  I always just prefer it for the politeness of an envelope.

Tabu See my TER Reviews 1024 reads
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16 / 33

all the supposed "good guys" were actually stand-up guys.

Unfortunately, in the past couple of years I've had 5 or 6 fellows-- all who came highly recommended-- try to short me or otherwise steal my time and effort. They all were coasting on their good references, and just waiting to take advantage of a lady who trusted them.

This business is not what it used to be, and if I didn't get my gift and then count it discreetly before every date, I'd be crying like some other lovely ladies who trusted a fellow to hold up his end of the deal.

Next month, I'll be celebrating 12 years in this business. I'd have exited long ago if I didn't genuinely enjoy meeting nice guys and having fun. But given my recent experience, I'm very glad that I established my protocols from the very start. As it is, no one can rip me off without my consent.  

You should do whatever you feel is right for you... but just for the record, the vast majority of providers I know disagree with your stance. And for good reason, as I've learned.  
 
Posted By: hotcougarmilf
homework and proper screening on the gentleman, you wouldn't have done that. Also, do you not worry about LE?  
   
 I never touch the envelope until my client leaves. That is standard practice.

Icanttakeitwithme 1017 reads
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17 / 33

It's hard for me to imagine it happens even rarely  
given what I see on most provider sites  
with respect to the requirement for references.

MakenzieRae See my TER Reviews 1083 reads
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18 / 33

While each of us do things the way we want to....I agree 110% with Tabu.

I make it very clear on my website that I wish for the funds to be in an envelope and put
down on the counter within the 1st 5 mins along with their id.  I do check the id right away
and then hand it back to them immediately so they don't feel I am doing anything shady. This is
always done in front of them. Sometimes its not in an envelope, however all gents will excuse  
themselves to the restroom and that is my opportunity to count it and put it away...hence nothing  
uncomfortable and I can continue with a great date. Being around for now 8 years I have been  
very blessed not to be 100% ripped off and I sure don't want it to ever happen.  I have though been  
shorted, a few times. One was an outcall and I didn't check it before I left(this was years ago). However, when I called him  
within a day it was sent to me via Greendot. Hence he avoided being blacklisted.

Most of the gents that come and see me do "their" homework and follow my website
to how I like things done.  Rarely have I had it handed to me and if it is I will NOT accept
it in my hands.  However, I will just pull my hands away and not say a word. Then they
know to just put it down somewhere.  

One thing I won't do and don't think I ever have done is count it in front of a gent.  While
it may be tacky to some people and not to others. I just prefer to not make things  
uncomfortable from the start.

The fact is we cannot 100% prevent LE or the bad guys.  Screening is not 100% fool proof
and if someone believes that then they are sadden mistaken and its on them.  

Again, we have the right to do things the way we want to. However to state things are  
"standard practice" is not a good idea. I believe that with those who have already commented
you have found this to be true.

This is all IMHO...

Makenzie Rae

Tabu See my TER Reviews 907 reads
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USGrantlover 225 Reviews 829 reads
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20 / 33

Posted By: xxldog24
I would consider it rude. Put it in your purse, excuse yourself to the restroom to freshen up and count it there.

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 836 reads
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21 / 33

I screwed up an envelope once. Second appointment with a highly rated gal. My bad. She slipped into the bath, counted it, came out and said "we have a failure to communicate." We did and it was all mine. We fixed it, moved on and she became an ATF. Now retired. Its often not what happened/s but how its handled. A lady counts the money in my face I'll never see her again.  

Posted By: tampajessicalee
I ALWAYS screen, and screening has nothing to do with weather or not I take precaution and care that I give my money's worth ...I've been paid for more time that I didn't realize, and ended up leaving after not realizing I shorted him on time...Since then, I don't consider NOT counting a viable option no matter how much screening is done.  What if someone gave me a tip for Greek and I didn't know it until after the session? That's happened before, too.  
   
 The OTHER scenario I worry about was already mentioned where there is a discrepancy after the girl takes an envelope into the other room.  I've had that happen before, as well, where I think the hobbyist actually made an honest mistake and then questioned my integrity afterwards.  
   
 I know when I read about the girls getting ripped off or shorted on NBL by verified clients, I always wonder why they didn't count their money first.    
   
 I really haven't seen any viable options on this thread, so I'm just going to have to accept that some hobbyists are more sensitive than others and concentrate on ways I can make up for that...

HotCougarMilf See my TER Reviews 862 reads
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Pickledpeter 981 reads
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Hope you are not on pornhub.

DGL17 9 Reviews 1064 reads
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24 / 33

You never count your money.... when you are sitting at the table....... there'll be time enough for counting..... when the dealings done... :) Sorry.. Had to inject a little humor and could not resist.. I understand the need to check for accuracy but I'd not like it done in front of me..

and for you youngsters who don't know the song... link below... David.. :)

AlexisSweetP 1042 reads
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27 / 33

Technically you can touch the envelope after the session ends but before they leave to make sure that you haven't been shorted. Since the "activity" has been completed there is no concern about LE at that time.  But I understand you are just being extra cautious.  I say that because I had a client that shorted me 20 bucks on accident the other day and I didn't cat it until he was gone. It was a real accident because he was very apologetic and stopped by the next day and not only gave me the 2o but added another 20 bucks for the inconvenience. I was taught to always operate by your method but I decided after that incident 6545to start checking just before they leave.

HotCougarMilf See my TER Reviews 1001 reads
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And take your fucking snotty ass attitude somewhere else because I don't need your shit.  I've been a provider now for 6 years and never had trouble with my envelopes.  They pay my bills just fine.

Now please I don't need to hear anymore of your condescending tone so don't respond.  It's better for you that way, it doesn't make you look like you are looking now, pathetic.

Oh, and everyone doesn't go to church.  I'm Jewish, but good one.

bushyannette See my TER Reviews 851 reads
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29 / 33

never shorted. but that why things r worked out be4 meeting. Now robbed after the fact a few times. over 8yrs 3 times..

inthepink257 109 Reviews 908 reads
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30 / 33

And another old gambler famously said " you just have to pay your money and take your chances " ...thats what we gents are doing everytime we fill the envelope !

USGrantlover 225 Reviews 945 reads
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Well I guess I agree with that but if I were a provider and someone offered me a "wad of cash," I'd of probably bolted.  

Posted By: tampajessicalee
If someone would have handed me an envelope or had it ready in the bathroom, it would have gone that way...I guess this entire situation was just awkward to begin with.    
   
Posted By: USGrantlover
I screwed up an envelope once. Second appointment with a highly rated gal. My bad. She slipped into the bath, counted it, came out and said "we have a failure to communicate." We did and it was all mine. We fixed it, moved on and she became an ATF. Now retired. Its often not what happened/s but how its handled. A lady counts the money in my face I'll never see her again.    
     
Posted By: tampajessicalee
I ALWAYS screen, and screening has nothing to do with weather or not I take precaution and care that I give my money's worth ...I've been paid for more time that I didn't realize, and ended up leaving after not realizing I shorted him on time...Since then, I don't consider NOT counting a viable option no matter how much screening is done.  What if someone gave me a tip for Greek and I didn't know it until after the session? That's happened before, too.    
       
   The OTHER scenario I worry about was already mentioned where there is a discrepancy after the girl takes an envelope into the other room.  I've had that happen before, as well, where I think the hobbyist actually made an honest mistake and then questioned my integrity afterwards.    
       
   I know when I read about the girls getting ripped off or shorted on NBL by verified clients, I always wonder why they didn't count their money first.      
       
   I really haven't seen any viable options on this thread, so I'm just going to have to accept that some hobbyists are more sensitive than others and concentrate on ways I can make up for that...

CassieSutton 947 reads
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That is what I am running into. Guys who I have already come across before trying to jipp me. I dont understand it. So now I treat every client like he is the first client of the day. Never trust another with your money or your life choices

RaeMonroe See my TER Reviews 900 reads
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If they don't immediately set the donation down in plain site I ask if they have anything for me. Then I say this, "My one request before we get started is that you take your time washing your hands."

That is a subtle way of ensuring they are out of the room while you do a quick count, and honestly, I really do want them to wash their hands. I always wash my hands immediately before a date, and don't want dirty hands touching me.  

Continue doing what makes you feel comfortable and if the guys don't like it they should stick to their SO's.  

Rae

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