Hi everyone,

I am planning a trip to Germany in August to visit the legendary FKK clubs.  I have read through the forum and know reasonably which clubs are well known, which areas, etc.  However, i still wanted to get your advice.  I am unfamiliar with Germany and therefore do not plan to visit multiple cities.  Therefore it seems Frankfurt is the best place for me to go.  However, i have a total of 6 days there, and i would like to visit a different FKK club each day.  I have noted the famous ones near Frankfurt are Palace, Oase and World, and also Mainhattan which is new?  What about Shark?  If you guys had six days and will be located in Frankfurt, what would your recommendation be?  Or should i stay 3 days in Frankfurt and then go to Dusseldorf?  How long will it take to get there?  My only concern is the clubs around Dusseldorf seem more difficult to reach for someone who is new to Germany. Thanks a lot!

I don't think Mainhattan opens until July 1st, so you're going to have to wait for the scouting report on that one...

All in all, with a week in Germany and sufficient time to do the traveling, I'd hit more than the "Hessen Three" (even if that's four with FKK Mainhattan)- but whether or not you venture out of the Frankfurt area depends on your comfort level with driving/taking a train/cab/extensive traveling in a foreign country.

The NRW clubs like Living Room, Golden Time and Villa Vertigo are about 40-60 km (25-40 miles) out of Düsseldorf, which is itself about 90 minutes out of Frankfurt by train. This is something you could easily visit using a 10 Euro (!) Smart Car rental from Sixti (warning, German language website) while staying in Düsseldorf:

http://www.sixti.de/

(Alternately, you could use a SmartCar in Frankfurt to hit places like Oase and World that are a bit out of the city. While Oase's easy to hit via regional train + cab, World is less so.)

Granted, you won't be cruising down the autobahn at 200 kph with the Audi TTs and M5s in one of those, and the GPS (highly recommended) is extra- but the 100 kilometers per day should cover you hitting an FKK from the correct central location.

There are also clubs in the Köln-Bonn area (Bernd's, Samya), also not too far away from Dusseldorf (30 minute train ride), or Frankfurt (60 minutes or so by train).

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Thank you for your reply, it is very helpful. I did review the Top 10 list and that is where i got my initial plan for which FKKs to visit in Frankfurt.  With 6 days in Germany i think i agree with you, i could do 3 days in Frankfurt and 3 days in Dusseldorf, and from Dusseldorf visit the 3 clubs you mentioned.  However, can those 3 NRW clubs be reached by train too, or do i HAVE to rent a car?  I've never driven in Germany and i can't really read German so i don't know how challenging that is.

Basically...I usually arrive midweek, and take in Oase, that's the most reliable club of the FRA "Big Three". Thursday is Bernd's, near Cologne, it's pretty Milfy, but usually a high performance lineup. It's also one of the oldest existing FKKs, a true FKK, a smaller, more intimate club, and not an uberbrothel like World.

Friday is reserved for my current fave club, Golden Time and later on, it's sister club Living Room...GT is in Brueggen, near the NL border, and LR is in Kaarst, 30 min away.

Saturday, I'd head back to Frankfurt, stopping off at Finca Erotica, a medium sized club owned by the World folks with decent talent, and then maybe World.

Sunday would be Palace. Now, I really don't care that much for Palace, but I've had great luck there on Sundays, late evening is pretty mellow time for hobbying, lots of quality girls. Just remember Palace has a higher % of hustlers and processors there, you have to bring in a stopwatch into the room literally.

There are other great choices, but these have been my longtime favorites, so I stick to them.

Now if we can only get a few people to start talking about Macau .

Thanks for the great info. To get to Golden time, living room and villa vertigo from one city, should it be cologne or dusseldorf? And how do you get to each club from that city that is most convenient? Thanks!

Hey...I'm in a very similar situation..traveling for 5-6 days and wanted to take in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf...very concerned about the driving issues..rental cars..etc...no German language...maybe we can compare notes!

Ok here is my current plan:
Tues: Land in Frankfurt in morning, take a break then visit Oase by train
Wed: Visit World by train
Thurs: Take a train to Dusseldorf or Cologne (I have no idea which city is more convenient for the clubs in that area), then visit Golden Time
Fri: Visit Living Room
Sat: Visit Villa Vertigo
Sun: Take a train back to Frankfurt, and since its my last night there visit an FKK in the city either Palace or Mainhattan whichever is better
Mon: Flight out of Germany

Now for the experts here, my question is should i be staying in Dusseldorf or Cologne for the NRW clubs?  Or, is it even possible to visit all these places while still staying in Frankfurt?  I think up to a 1 hr train ride is acceptable, its better than switching hotels.  But then i dont know how late these places are open till and how i would leave if i don't have a car, as some of these places sound really remote.  Perhaps i HAVE to rent a car?  Any advice would be much appreciated thanks!

I am planing to be in FRA from July 31st to Aug 3rd,

I would like to visit Villa Vertigo and Golden Time,  not sure what will be the best plan to go
Dusseldorf or Cologne ??

Here is the info I received from Villa Vertigo by email...

If you can choose next time Düsseldorf airport you are only 30 km away from us.


You can take the train directly from the airport. I have attached a plan of the train.


You can find additional information here: www.bahn.de

Thanks.  I had not thought about car pickup service but that is a viable option too, although more expensive it saves me time and no hassle about how to get to the club.  I could do that for Frankfurt, however do all clubs offer that?  If i stayed in Dusseldorf, can i get them to pick me up or should i rent a car to visit all 3 clubs (Golden Time, Living Room and Villa Vertigo)

That sounds reasonable, but some things to keep in mind:

- Getting to World from Frankfurt (City Center) is going to take a 45 minute regional train AND a €20 cab ride each way (call it about 65 Euros both ways)- it's considerably further out than Oase is (Oase's about a 30 minute train ride on a less expensive train plus a less expensive cab ride- probably about 25-30 Euros both ways). The Frankfurt-Giessen train also stops running before midnight, so realistically, you'll need to leave the club by 11 pm or earlier.

Given this, I would have to say a one-day car+GPS rental is likely more economical for World. Alternately, World has a car service- 65 euros each way if you use the one recommended by them (check their site). Less economical, but less hassle than a train.

- For the clubs you've selected in the NRW, I'd pick Düsseldorf. Theoretically, any major city in the Rhein-Ruhr region would do, like Duisburg, Bochum, Mönchengladbach, etc:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine-Ruhr

However, Düsseldorf is central and on the main train line for the region, and about 90 minutes away from Frankfurt by high-speed ICE train (I believe DB is selling advance one way tickets a few weeks out for €29). I don't think GT is really convenient to get to by local train, so I'd probably rent a car for that one; I know VV is from previous reports here.

-  You might try searching for some reports on the Internet: specifically, ignatzmice.com's bulletin board and internationalsexguide.info have some useful information. I believe these sites have detailed reports on nearby accomodations AND train/bus directions.

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http://villavertigo.de/index.php?id=55

http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/eng/index.htm

http://www.goldentime.de/engl/

Plenty of information on how to contact them. Again, I'd also consult some of the boards I mentioned in the previous posts. Not to deride TER, but they really are good sources of information, having covered the FKK scene for years longer than TER has.

Longish cab rides aren't likely to be too cheap (in the 100+ euro range, so $120 US and up). Renting a car is almost certainly going to be cheaper, though VV is near a train station, I believe.

The three issues to be aware of are 1) you need to drive a stick, or pay the extra for one with an auto tranny (not always avaiable), 2) rent or bring a GPS with Europe maps, 3) snow tires during the winter especially if you are unfamiliar with driving in snow.

The three issues to be aware of are 1) you need to drive a stick, or pay the extra for one with an auto tranny (not always avaiable), 2) rent or bring a GPS with Europe maps, 3) snow tires during the winter especially if you are unfamiliar with driving in snow.

Yes thanks.  Manual is no problem for me but i would definitely need a GPS and a place to park the car back in my hotel at Dusseldorf.  Is it safe to assume that if i rent a GPS, it will be fairly easy for me to find and locate the FKK club?  I dont really read any German.  Thanks!

Hi Everyone,

Thanks all for your responses.  After extensive consideration, i think i am leaning towards staying in Frankfurt this time, even though i have a week in Germany...the main reason is 1)i don't think i could fuck 3 girls a day continuously for 6 days and i know i will want to pick more than one at each FKK; 2)in order to get to Dusseldorf and around that area i'd have to take a train, get another hotel there, rent a car and figure out my way around all in a day, a little stressful it seems; 3)seems like Frankfurt has enough to offer in the area.  So here's my intended schedule, what do you guys think?

Tues:  Arrive early morning, rest for a bit then head to Oase early afternoon by train or rental car.  Seems like this is a good place to start out, everyone raves about Oase
Wed: Head over to World by train or rental car
Thurs: Hit one of the FKKS in the city, either Mainhattan or Palace whichever is better?  Anyone know?
Fri: Rest day, sightseeing in Frankfurt
Sat: Go to Oase again
Sun: Go to World again

Sure, this means i have to repeat 2 FKKs at the end but i assume there are plenty of women to pick on a second visit?  Btw, do you guys know what hours are best at each club, i.e. have the most women working?  Some clubs are open till 4am but i dont know if perhaps most girls leave work at a different time?  Thanks!

Hi All,

I have a few follow up questions given my proposed itinerary.  Can anyone recommend any 5-star hotels (cost is not an issue) that would be most convenient to get to both Palace and Mainhattan?   I will most likely take a taxi but don't want to stay too far away.  I have no idea where Mainhattan is.

Secondly, can anyone shed any details on how easy or difficult it would be to drive to Oase and World from Frankfurt?  I intend to rent a car with GPS, but i don't read or speak German.  Is it easy to just enter the address and follow the GPS?

Lastly, are there any issues with the race of the customer in these clubs?  I am Chinese, 32 yrs old.  Will i encounter any girls who won't serve me?

Thanks

Darkelf,

So you'll be in Germany by yourself and doing these on your own? I considered that path as well, but as you can see from my posts under Woolfox's "Reflections on 3 clubs visited," decided to do the FKK Tour this time around.

I'll be curious how you make out. The FKK Tour typically visits two FKKs/day: one from ~1pm-5pm, and the other from ~7pm-midnight - something like that. They take in the good ones in the Frankfurt and surrounding areas. At my age (49) however, I'm not sure whether I'll be able to indulge multiple times/day over a 6-day period. But then again, many of the girls look so fantastic, perhaps I'll find previously unknown strength reserves. Also, I've never used Viagra or anything similar, but may start while there.

Good luck...

Yes, it is a little daunting to do all this alone in a foreign country but its exciting as well.  I'm pretty comfortable travelling alone and have done mongering trips in other places as well such as Thailand, London, China, Taiwan, Macau and HK.  While the FKK trips are certainly convenient and take the hassle out of getting to these places, my main concern is i dont want to be restricted in my time there.  If i like the club, i want to be able to stay till 4am if i wish.  Also, i don't enjojy the company of other "hobbyists", so i rather go it alone...

I agree with the going at it alone bit.....I tried contacting fkk tour to set something up and never from them. I have solid dates in sept...just wish there were private/ chauffeured tours available.
I've heard some good things about atlantik ...anyone else hear anything?