so rude of him and frustrating!
A hobbyist scheduled to see me for a 2 hour session 3 weeks ago for my tour here to Chicago. During my 3 weeks I had MULTIPLE conversations with this hobbyist. Some lasting almost an hour. Now I know this was really dumb on my part, but being new in the business I prefer to really get to know the hobbyist I that schedule appts with me, in hope that will help us to have a wonderful session. I see some, like the one I'm discussing, clearly will take advantage of someone like me.
Anyway, this hobbyist scheduled to see me on Monday @ 10pm for a 2 hour session. I was calling him on Monday to make sure he was still coming at 10pm. He intentionally ignored my calls. Finally he calls at 6pm saying he went out with a friend, ate something that did not agree with him and was too sick to have his scheduled appt with me and wanted to schedule for the next day.
Fine! He said he would call and me the next day to let me know what time we would meet. He did, with another BS story about the cable guy coming to his home. Again, he BS'd me, said he would meet with me this morning at 9am. I received the text from him saying " Good Morning Jordan I am on my way. What is your rate"?
WHAT IS MY RATE??!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME???!!!
Chatting damn nearly every other day for 3 weeks. emailing back and forth, not to mention he booked the damn appt through my website, so I know he saw what my rates were.
I kindly responded back to him through text telling him to check my rate page again. He responds back stating he thought it was a cheaper rate per our conversations and TER. First of all, I would NEVER discuss rates over the phone with someone I don't know or met.
I even told him the price he thought it was we could have worked something out. He refused to pick up the phone to work this out, and just continued to text "well thought the rate was this......." " That rate is a little out of my league."
I know, I know! I was a little to nice, but providers admit it. We all have met hobbyist who we have dinner with and talk to OTC. My dumb behind thought I was making a new friend.
Some hobbyist may not know it takes A LOT of time and money for a provider to tour. For a hobbyist to BS a provider about what they thought there rates were or are, and to reschedule appts back to back to not show up is really disrespectful!
This definitely taught me a lesson. I will not be a little less friendly when meeting potential clients. Definitely see why providers use screeners.
That's what I'll be doing from this point on.
Lesson definitely learned!!!
Jordan, I'm sorry that happened to you.
I would say it's out of the norm, but I'm hearing more often.
I hope you reported his info appropriately...... This is not the way we do it in Chicago. on the Contrary.....
We can't allow Asshats wasting your time and in turn clogging up the system when others would like to see you at that same time...It trickles down to untrustworthy attitudes and takes the provider out of the system all for naught. he ruined it for you, other guys you might have been able to book, those hobbyists, and the Reputation of Chicago Community.
Guys we have a responsibility to communicate as quickly as possible, and honor our commitments.
If not, you should play else where.
Be Respectful please
Sounds to me like a planned passive aggressive attempt to get you to lower your rates for him. Kudos to you for standing your ground. Be sure to alert others as to that particular client's unscrupulous behavior. Your lesson was learned once. His could become an ongoing lesson.
NEVER...I repeat NEVER go to see a guy even for a ride, until he has booked and paid for an appt. He is a total jackass to act like he did not know the fkin rate, make you go to dinner OTC, then claim he had the shits because his dumb ass drank some milk KNOWING he was lactose intolerant. He played you, and will try this with more new women to see what he can get out of them. I hope he is reading this, so he can read FK OFF DOUCHE BAG!
Photos and rates are the first thing guys look at before booking, and someone with a history on TER knows damn well he is not a newbie. That is a rookie or a con artist move, what he did. BFD, you got to go eat with him and get a ride from the airport, but you're out 700 bucks for the TIME HE BOOKED 3 WEEKS IN ADVANCE!
Blacklist his ass...period! Watch your reviews because many times guys like him will try and dog you out when you don't kiss their ass. Should be rather easy to spot and you should make TER aware if the handle, because only they will know his alias.
Here is my rule for OTC time...they PAY FOR 2 HOURS at least, and if I have nothing pending, I will go to dinner AFTER we have play time. Don't EVER do anything OTC on a date other than the appt. date. They will always take advantage of you...well ok, not all of them but what's the point? If I wanted to go to dinner on a day I am not being paid, I will go with my family!
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And he is reading this because he just emailed me with more BS. SMH!
It is obvious he is Married or has a SO. The least a guy can do is clear his schedule when making an appointment. Heck, back when I was "hobbying" I would take a full vacation day to see a lady. OR hobby while on Vacation.
Respect for another human is something lacking in today's world.
There are many time wasters and losers that simply enjoy being assholes. There also those guys that simply want to be penpals. They don't have any intention of booking an appointment. The assclown you described seems to be a perennial time waster. I'm sure he has done this many times.
In this biz, you will encounter many asswipes. Don't expect it to be stress free.
I am definitely going to report what he did and who he is on the provider's board, as well as other sites.
Thanks for being so kind fellas.
OMG! I have had 2 time wasters here while visiting Chicago too! I don't want to give my rant here on your post, but I am experiencing some of this time wasting behavior as well! Urrgh! And this is my very FIRST visit!
Sorry it happened to you girl and I wish you the best on your next visit here to Chicago.
Michelle Rene
but the "location" is not the point here. There are flakes and assholes from Chitown to the UK, so don't give up just because of a one time tour that went bad...we have all had those. Jordan admitted to making a rookie mistake, and that is easily prevented by not doing what she did to begin with.
As far as this being a fantasy and us having to literally coddle someone for weeks on end, I call bs. I've had no shortage of of success being a bitch.
.......my time is paid for but I DO NOT have hour long conversations with ANYBODY....not even my mama (lol). Little pm's/texts/QUICK emphasis on QUICK (like 5-10 TOPS) chat on phone every now and then leading to an appt is okay but anything more than just "every now and then" is too much.....I have s**t to do too lol. We can be friendly without allowing to take advantage.
"Chatting damn nearly every other day for 3 weeks. emailing back and forth" ..... *slow motion NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO (lol)* you gave him the impression you were way too available sweetie-sugar pie-honey bunch. I don't need a screener (control freak also but besides the point lol)...just put more space in when you communicate unless absolutely necessary especially if the appt is set. 3 wks of all kinds of banter and he didn't know your rate....he was messing with you from the beginning. He got all that free time from you and then things got real every time playtime was coming close he kept playing his own games.
The moment you say "see you on june *** at *** for ****" via phone/email/pm however you communicate also include in that very same communication if they are not familiar with the rate to do so. I'm almost thinking of that b-word when it comes to him (and not the one that rhymes with witch).
the proper phrase would be called Mitch as in Man bitch...
Geez, I am sorry you had to go through that. What a pain in the ass.
I totally support your foremost decision to screen. But I don't believe too much in the version of the rate being out of his league because three weeks is enough to save up. Three weeks talking to a girl IS a commitment. It could be that an emotional connection that you helped him to develop during the conversations you had (probably with flirting and you being nice and sweet) and his anxiety to not disappoint you could have taken a place. Business is business, but there is an element of fantasy for the gentlemen here and sometimes, the fantasy grows and becomes too strong to want to break it with reality. Have anyone met anyone let's say online, talked to each other for a while and finally decided to meet, did you feel nervous? Of coarse! And for a man, he knows he has to 'perform' almost instantly, that could be waaay to much pressure to handle. Men might look stronger than us, but they can be easily influenced with their own fears. One thing for sure is that you will remain his fantasy-girl for a while.
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so rude of him and frustrating!
...he wasn't in your room jacking you around with a partially filled gift card.
And I concur and will reiterate -- it takes A LOT of TIME, MONEY, PLANNING & SCREENING so it really does sting when someone cancels last minute. No better are the "old friends" who tell us to get in touch when we get in town to put something together. 3 nights and 3 days go by and nothing!
I don't know about you but if I'm staying in a nice hotel I'm not into a lot of foot traffic --- not to mention it's nice to be able to enjoy the city I've traveled 2000 miles to get to so I'm LOW volume. I prefer 90 minutes or more and these day I'll only book two appointments on my full days, one on my half day and none to zero on my departure day. If even one of those appointments goes MIA it's nearly impossible to recover the lost time. We can spend 200 bucks for a VIP visiting ad that we're only going to use for 3 days and then hope and pray it pays off. And meanwhile, on his side of things it's pretty much like he got a freebie out of you. Not cool but some will do it until you figure them out -- albeit sometimes way too late.
Guys aren't really into to deposits so it's up to us to ever diligent about screening, asking important questions and managing our time. On a side note - pre-meeting novels can be a bit of a let down when it comes to the actual meeting. Sometimes when they feel they already know you or if they look the liberty of pleasuring themselves during your email exchange it's almost like they suffer a pre-mature ejaculation and then decide they don't want to see you.
List on every blacklist and DNS (do not serve) site you can google. It will make you feel a little better.
Sisterly Support!!!
Love Laney
Everything you touched on, are the reasons I no longer tour. If a guy wants to see me in HIS city, he can PAY to fly me there, but the days of me spending money to go globe trotting for clients, are long gone.
I especially love the guys who are like, "Can you let me know when you will be in x city?" Sure, when you PAY ME TO BE THERE lol.
Again.... this is why I love you London.
.... is unforgivingly seasonable and the demographic here still isn't dense enough to stay local all summer. Booooo!!! Hiss!!! I've got it double stacked against me because I live in Tampa and some say it's part of the bible belt. I couldn't imagine and wouldn't believe that there's a place on earth where men don't flock to hookers but trust me when I tell you that in the simple little town of Tampa they truly don't!!!!
And well --- I have to admit that getting out of slow town TPA is pretty invigorating. I walk around the city with a giant smile on my face. I'm secretly patting myself on the back for being independent enough to break away and travel on my own. There's a "Stepford Wives" element in Tampa that I tend to rebuke. lol!!!
Cheers London!!
L
I feel you on that! I live in New Orleans, and NO ONE is hiring us in the summer. I literally might get 2 clients a MONTH as London, and my agency has to carry me through the summer months. If you ever want to tour Nola, come in October and I would be happy to Pimp, ahem, help you out bwahahaa.
and you're too cheap to turn on the A/C.
For someone who's not coming here you're sure spending a lot of time on our board. Not that we mind, lol.
Damn. So Memphis it'll have to be.
I especially love the guys who are like, "Can you let me know when you will be in x city?" Sure, when you PAY ME TO BE THERE lol.
We live & learn!!! It happens ..... Some of them are so bored with their lives they think we need to entertain them... And waste our time like we nothing better to do that we just sit twiddling our thumbs all day!!! Don't let this experience make u bitter... Cuz their are true respectable hobbyists out there who aren't like that guy!!!
