Hi,

The ugly side of this hobby has , again, risen It's head!!! :o((

and the guys that patronize such places should be shot as well.  It is beyond my imagination how anybody can spend time with a 12 year old and not suspect something is not right!

After a stay in general population at a maximum security prison!  They have a way seeing that justice is served.

They are out there. We don't think or want to think they are a part of our community but they are. They are predators. They watch and wait. They stalk their victims and they stalk potential clients. If your verbiage isn't clear, if you leave any wiggle room, they pounce!

I'm sure the OP was NOT a pedophile but we want no windows, no door cracks opening up in our tight knit community. No opportunity for slim to ooz in. I hope you all agree.

You have a wealth of information that most of us don't have access to. Speak up Andrea, you pointed out a couple of signs here but how about starting a new thread with the signs you've learned? Agencies are always suspect but how do we see the signs in indies? Not so easy especially with the proliferation of fake IDs assuming these girls would even show an ID. A scared girl might be obvious but some are good actresses and can hide the truth.

and thanks for jumping on my request

I've never been in the position of wondering about this during a visit but would any of these girls indicate things weren't OK in a whisper if we asked? Let's say we arrived and noticed she was behaving in an unusual manner. Is it even worth asking her quietly if she's OK or should we just leave? What I'm getting at is a snap decision we'd have to make if we walked into a situation that didn't seem right. It's easy to leave and forget about her but not so easy to report the situation unless we're absolutely sure she is being trafficked. Advice for not so obvious situations would be very helpful.

Ending up in a bad situation is easy to avoid for those guys willing to take the time to do research. Better to exchange a few emails with her than having to make a snap judgement once we arrive.