A good friend of mine that is touring the Chicago area just got robbed!! He is an RS2K member. The crazy thing is she saw the client during the first day of her tour. It is during his second request for a 2HR appointment to see her he robbed her by saying he would contact the police if she did not give him all her money! She was staying in an upscale hotel ( not that this means anything).  

fucking asshole!

.......have her contact roomservice.  seems to me that something like this ought be in their database so no other ladies get taken advantage of.

No he was screened!!! Until now other reputable providers where scheduled to see him this week who also screened him. He just saw a well know Chicago provider this Monday. RS2K has been notified of the issue. When he was screened the did say he had negative history of NCNS. That's it!! VH as no prior incidents other then one NCNS complaint.  

Thank you for all of your information about him. It is nice to know others are looking out for us. I have heard horror stories about this person even though he has been verified. We all need to be careful. Thanks again for the heads up.
Love
Zana

What was he going to say if he went to the police, I just paid for sex with a prostitute? She could simply deny it. The police aren't going to arrest her on the complaint of a john, it would be his word against hers. Plus, why would he out himself to the police? Why didn't she tell him to fuck off, and then simply check out of her hotel? Did he physically threaten her? Maybe I'm obtuse, but I'm not understanding this.

Zana, can you provide a little more details on the horror stories? I suppose there might be more details on the providers-only forum, but a few providers can't access that. (Because a client used the provider's computer to log into his TER account.) Maybe these horror stories will be more helpful than the NSNC in predicting this type of behavior.

I will answer you on the board and not PM. Do not contact me if you doubt what I am saying. You have the reviewers board for that. I DO NOT WANT ANYONE PM'ING WHO THINKS THIS IS A BULLSHIT STORY.  I have the information and for those of you who has it know this is not something that is unlike him.  

I guess it just show that references should be the main substance in the verification process. What makes this story even scarier is that he was from RS2k and not some guy off of backpage.

Outing him here would serve nothing but to get the OP banned. Please keep your dumb advice to yourself, lest someone actually follow it someday and get themselves into a shit load of trouble.

I asked and said the same to her. I cannot and will not dispute why she did not contact the police. It's easy for US to say " why didn't she contact the police" " the police would not have done anything. "  You're right, I was not there, but for all who knows this lady personally know she would not lie about something like this.  

Yet when I've asked you for any reliable information on which to corroborate your little story you defer to "just trust you".

Did you even bother to read my post before your insipid response? Please show me I ever advised her to contact the police? That may have been your ridiculous advice, but it would never have come from me because it would have been pointless. The police would have laughed at the scenario you painted in your OP: a hooker claiming she was robbed by a john because she gave him all of her money when he threatened to turn her in to the police.  

Here is what Zana said, " I have heard horror stories about this person even though he has been verified."

ferences did not come from Zana. All the other providers said he was " safe" "clean" "polite." The provider he robbed would have said the same thing from there first meet.  

I did not say references came from Zana. She indicated that it was well known the guy was dangerous. How did no one else know?  

I should not have said " robbing them" but definitely having the intentions of robbing them or using them for references to see other ladies to possibly rob them.  

doesn't entitle a Client to Rob a Provider!  Any Client that Robs a Provider is a Total Fucking Jerk! All these girls are doing is trying to survive. Pay Bills, Rent, Food. These girls put their Safety on the line for us. Even taking a chance on getting Arrested. The last thing they need is a Fucking Asshole robbing them.

As I stated earlier, for those who want his info contact me.  

That is supposed to validate your story?

And you have a very different story there.  Now I see you've changed your OP story here, and the other email stories are also different.

Before you become mr. white knight to the rescue, you should be sure this is a true story. The OP has changed her story at least once. This might be a little fishy.

What a stupid post, it's like posting "hey, murder is just wrong you guys"...duh.  You pathetic prick, how many times have you bragged about paying "your provider" much lower than her rate, now you're the crusader for provider rights?  There is so much nonsense on this board that I just ignore but hypocrisy and rank idiocy I can't abide.  OP might be something serious so just stay in your mom's basement and wank it you liar, everyone knows you've never actually seen a provider and probably never will.

Now how about coming up with a few more versions to this story.

I would love to give you more information. There are a few providers that know the situation and have PM'd me in regards to the violent situation that happened. I couldn't tell anyone else. Who? Just warn other girls that there is someone out there and get suggestions from them. I appreciate all of the help that the other girls gave me. They were truly sweet.
I think that most of the gentlemen that have fun in this Hobby do it for fun not violence and it is just the select few that give it a bad rap. The best thing we can do as Providers is do the best at screening and to let each other know (including the great hobbyists out there) of the bad ones.
Love
Zana

First off Morecoffee.... please do not do that... everyone can go back and look at my posts.... I have said ... and I quote from an earlier post... by the way.. I do not even know Cathy... I speak to someone else. Whom you may not know.  
This is what I said in an earlier post ~~~
Thank you for all of your information about him. It is nice to know others are looking out for us. I have heard horror stories about this person even though he has been verified. We all need to be careful. Thanks again for the heads up.  
Love  
Zana  
You can look it up if you like. No mention of what he says... nothing like that. I have heard  horror stories and would love to share them with gentlemen and ladies who actually care what is going on in this "what is supposed to be fun" area.  
If you are going to Quote someone you should probably get it right!
Love (still)
Zana

That is not what I said... I said that I have heard stories from others even though he was verified (after the fact).... not before. I would NEVER, ever put any woman (or man in that fact) in any harms way. I think what this person is doing is completely wrong and should be called out. The fact that some (no names) are wanting to protect the hobbyist and not the providers (whom you see) is disturbing to me. I have never had this issue when I was in Porn. At least we all knew why we were there. Whether it was for fun or for pay. No meanness, or stabbing in the back like right now. If you are going to throw my name around please use it correctly.... Oh and by the way.... I don't mind being thrown around (as long as it is fun!!! ) LOL
Love
Zana

This what I said you said in my post: "Here is what Zana said, 'I have heard horror stories about this person even though he has been verified.'

what happened happened! Nothing in it for for I or the lady it happened to to lie. I posted it to advise the LADIES of what is going on with this guy.  

And not sure why their story would be doubted!  Both the OP and the lady robbed are very reputable ladies and with absolutely no reason to fabricate the story!

Stop posting 10 times a week about your sweet and adorable $100 BBFS girl that's "too good for us" and everyone will lose interest very quickly, I assure you.

There have been plenty of gals who understand how to put up a PSA of this nature.  

Posted By: AngelinaDDD

And not sure why their story would be doubted!  Both the OP and the lady robbed are very reputable ladies and with absolutely no reason to fabricate the story!  
   
 The guy is a creep, bottom line!  Robbed a lady, despite previous good references and RS2K verification!  
   
 I think all the op wanted to do was warn the ladies in Chicago that do not have access to the PO board!  Not sure why all the nastiness came about! Everyone needs to chill out and stay safe and have fun!  
   
 Peace.  
   
 Angelina

-- Modified on 7/20/2014 11:16:39 PM

Now you've done it, expect a barrage of posts about your rude, denigrating, bullying description of poor ROGM. lol. Let's see how many of the "kumbaya" innocents rush to the troll's defense on this one.

I know I sound like a broken record, but do people ever read a post before sending their ridiculous, asinine responses? thehumanist clearly, and quite unequivocally stated "everyone knows you've never actually seen a provider and probably never will." How do you even remotely deduce he wants to see the girl you are seeing from that? Are you really that fucking dense and clueless?  

First, the OP was anonymous, disorganized,hysterical, and quite unbelievable. Why you feel free to castigate those of us who openly questioned the veracity of the mess she disseminated, we had no idea who she was. So while you claim to personally know her and vouch for her bona fides, we did not have that luxury.

Sending you a pm

Did the guy have a gun or what? It just says he stated he would call the police. I would have told him to call the police. I mean this doesn't sound like a real robbery. It sounds like he just scared her into giving her his money. I think there is more to the story.

The guy irks me no end...if "his girl" is real it makes him a sadist wrapping himself in the "she's so sweet and adorable" bit, if she's not he's potentially giving newbies very bad expectations.  There is nothing good about this fool's presence on this or any other board.

Just what does common sense have to do with anything posted here?

but yes, very valid question. I have to agree that there has to be a LOT more to the story. Somehow the idea of a guy having a session with a lady, busting his nut (sorry for the graphic), and then after putting his clothes on saying to her, "Oh BTW if you don't give me all your money I am going to call the police" just doesn't sound like it could possily be the full story, does it?

Thanks for proving that a woman can have doubts about a story that seems to be missing something, just like the men here. It seems like we are expected to believe every story posted here, even ones cryptically posted by an alias poster, making his/her very first post under that name, which means the OP has ZERO credibility,and if we don't we are immediately branded misogynists. I am glad it's not just the non mangina men that have a problem accepting this at face value.

It is high time you prove to us that she does not have a Cock ! ass clown.

It is one thing to ask questions about the story, and quite another to announce that the OP has zero credibility because your questions haven't been answered. There can be many reasons why this provider didn't want the cops called. It could be that the client/thief appeared to be on the verge of violence without making any specific threat. Or maybe the provider was aware that many vice cops join the vice squad just for the opportunity to extort freebies out of providers that they have the opportunity to arrest. Such a cop would likely arrest the provider even though the case could never be prosecuted, and the provider would probably end up losing all her money (and more) in the process. Or it could be that she has previous legal problems that would make another encounter with the cops into a serious problem for her.  

This is what you said... I did not say references came from Zana. She indicated that it was well known the guy was dangerous. How did no one else know?  
 
~~~ The point I was trying to make and I tried to make before was that I had not known before the fact. If I had then I would have tried to help if I could have. So, please do not put my name out there like that. That is all I ask.

Thanks Angelina!!! You ROCK!!! Lets Make Love Not WAR!!!!

My point about his/her lack of credibility is posting this from behind an alias, an alias without a single other post to boot.

If a man were to make a post blasting some unknown provider from behind an alias that had never been heard from even once, everyone here would say that person had ZERO credibility. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't have a clue whether the OP is telling the truth, but why does the OP get a pass for calling out a client when we all know a guy claiming a woman stole from him would get nothing but abuse for his trouble. and for the record I have called out LOTS of guys for the very same thing, Making accusations without naming names, and without making the announcement under their "real" fake name so we can decide who has credibility and who does not.

Since when is "equal" treatment misogyny? and if I am a misogynist than so is Leeza.

or any combination of three adjectives in conjunction with misogynist....

Well, that's pretty amusing, GaGambler, that you don't see any difference between your posts and Leeza's. She just asked some questions that many of us have been thinking about. She didn't accuse anyone of lying or demand that her curiosity be satisfied in order to avoid your abuse.  

You had to throw the old "if a gal might pass" bullshit.  That's always sign of an illogical argument.

Yes, that is actually the guy did put his clothes on first, after showering and then threatened to call the police had she not given him her money. She he have fucked her and then run out with the money with no clothes on?

and if anyone wanted more details they could have PM"D for it. I did state at the end of my OP

If indeed this is true, and I am willing to concede that despite the kind of "out there" nature of your post, and the fact that if you were a man posting this under an alias you would be given ZERO credibility, but I also concede there is a double standard, but I digress. What's important here is that the ladies believe you and stay away from this predator.

Truth of the matter is, I actually do believe that you are at least by and large telling the truth, I am just trying to hold you to the same standards that we would hold a man to, and you know quite well that not only would I question a man, but I would be much quicker to "bash him" for making unsubstantiated claims from behind the safety of an alias. Of course in all fairness I do realize that a man can "out" a woman for ROB activities under her "hooker name" while a man cannot be outed her under any circumstances. Is that fair? Probably not, but it is the way things are here.

I will confess to enjoying "stirring the pot" but I think I will find another thread in which to do so. It's not like there is any shortage of them on this board. Assuming you are telling the truth, and I will grant that you most likely are, the matter is a serious one, and I won't detract from the seriousness of it any more. Well not in this thread at least. lol Fair enough?

Wow! I came so close to my dream of having my post approved by you!!

It's nice to see you backing off on this. The providers already bear the lions share of the risk in this business, and I think that the clients should give them the benefit of the doubt regarding safety issues like this. I, for one, am glad that there are so many wonderful providers available. Let's not make it difficult for them to raise important safety issues.

YOU are still a douche bag mangina in my book, and the last thing I am worried about is my ability to book with any escort I choose, any woman who thinks we would not be a good fit because of anything I say on these boards is absolutely right, Uber sensitive hookers are not what I look for in a date, paid for or not.

What I will agree on is that the safety issue that was brought up here is more important that me having fun pointing out the double standard here, but don't worry, on this board I will have PLENTY of opportunities to point out double standards, BSC hookers, and pathetic manginas, So don't think I am going soft here, or that you have a thing to do with it, because it was the OP herself that got me to reconsider, certainly not you. Let me repeat, you are still a douche bag mangina IMO, that has not changed. The OP however has convinced me that her post has enough merit for me to move on to another thread to have my fun. Got it?

And still you felt that you had to assert the "providers might want to pass on the likes of you and GaGa"  LOL  (Hint...if you say it 3 times there is a Judaic meaning to it...look it up).

I'm new to this board and have never had a discussion with you before. To tell the truth, I have a hard time understanding the pleasure some of you get from insulting others on this board. You've already seen my feeble attempt at this, and I'm already bored.  

In fact, I was thinking of bringing that very point up of how gentlemen " out" other providers for ripping them or others off, but it's not okay for the providers to "out" the guys off?  

and then you have the gall to call others insulting? You haven't seen insulting yet, but it's coming.

Not because anything I have to say about it, but because it's against TER rules, you can't post "personal information" about anyone here, and that includes deadbeat or even dangerous clients.

You can of course do so by PM and in the case of a dangerous client, surprise, surprise, I support you doing so.

FWIW although the term misogynist is thrown around rather loosely here, one of the things about posting under your "real" fake name is that after a while you get a history, and my posting history will prove that I am at least as likely to call out a guy for bad behavior as I am a woman, but somehow that fact gets lost as every time I have a disagreement with a woman the "M" word get thrown at me.

Did I post the assholes name? No I did not. I post his description, but gave detailed info to those who PM'd. And yes, I can post whatever I want on TER that they will allow to be posted. I won't have you or anybody else tell me any differently.  

I'm a douche bag "mangina", huh. I can't say I've seen that word before, and it just makes me laugh. I haven't had a conversation like this since high school.

I just wondered if they would reconsider. As far as I know, you haven't done anything that would warrant any recommendation from me. Insult me all you want, if that's fun for you.

There are some sick opportunists out there

I guess I didn't realize that you are more narcissistic than most on these boards.

but no one will hear you.