1) Why so many last-minute bookings in Chicago?
2) Why do so many refuse to be screened?
3) Why do so many not read ads and websites prior to reaching out?

Since putting my phone number on my eros ad and responding to Chicago ISO's I've been plagued with the above issues. It's a non-stop stream of fuckery. Someone help me understand these behaviors.

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Badly written ISO posts are mostly written by time wasters and lazy guys. The fact that the same set of ladies reply to these type of ISO posts makes me think you ladies are desperate for business.  

This is not a new phenomena. Every city has guys that don't want to be screened or do not read the ads or websites.

Was taking my number offline and having new and potential clients reach out by email booking.  What a lifesaver!  I now never have problems or irritation with people. I no longer have to deal with the guy who wants to talk for an hour just so 'I can feel comfortable'  or Mr. Now that we know each other do I get a discount or Best yet.... the 'woman' a high class super model who wants to keep me for personal use and spa outings... damn the list keeps going.  

Sticking to email was sanity key.

Good luck I hope you find something that works for you.

Hey Ana,

Screening shouldn't be a problem as long you're not delving too much giving you overwhelming access to his personal life. Especially if you are starting out and don't have a history of reviews to stand on. I don't think you are, but i will say it's about building trust for me. The only access I as a hobbyist have to somewhat get to know you is your reviews which can be very subjective, your website, and your presence here on TER. There are those that follow girls on social media, but i don't so I can't really say anything about that. I personally like to feel like I'm opening the door knowing something about her so that I've built up some excitement into meeting her. That's may just be me though.  

I recently put up an ISO after another lady cancelled on me. I was hoping to fill in the time slot in my busy schedule for that day. I got a response the day after from a lady, chatted a little bit before making a future date and keeping it. It was an amazing memorable experience.  

Ads are great. It gets your foot in the door to make me wanna know more about you. I think to some degree the success of the ad has a direct effect on your target audience. I mean how many times do we read that old line "you've had the rest, now come experience the best". I'm looking for authenticity before I will look past the face of the ad, then p411, then reviews and website.

You're not doing anything wrong. There's a lot of low hanging fruit out there on both sides. Because there's such an abundance of potential, you've gotta sometimes go through the bad to get to the good. When you find a good one, hang on to him or her.

I'm more asking what is the logic behind calling someone and expecting them to show up within 30 minutes, what is the logic behind contacting women who require screening and then refusing to screen, etc. I'm not a new provider and I actually write ads and websites for other successful providers so ad copy is not the issue. The vast majority of men I've encountered on TER do nothing but try to push my boundaries and violate my safety standards.  

Some ladies increase their rates to hopefully avoid some of the riff raff that comes with certain rates. There may be a challenge with even being available to accommodate last minute clients if you're gonna do that because there's an added expectation of a girl with higher rates. It also places you in a different category with girls who are asking for that comparable rate.

Ultimately the rate is not negotiable, nor is the screeniby. You've gotta do what works best for your business.

I had to totally change the way I do business.  

For one, I had to take my phone number down due to the insane amount of fantasy bookers, repetitious inquiries and one worded texts from time wasters and tire kickers. Responding to menial texts is something that I just don't entertain anymore. Even after taking my number down, I don't even respond to emails of the same manner.  

Going on, requiring a deposit before taking time out of my day to get ready has saved my life. I was literally stressing over appointments that fell through and by the time I actually got a serious client who could commit - I would get anxious and my whole demeanor would change. I would waste so much energy before actually seeing a client!  

Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure that my stringent booking protocol has turned many clients away and guess what? I'm totally fine with it. I'd rather put my energy into reading a book than dealing with the unnecessary stress. Furthermore, whatever energy I have reserved, I'd totally put that all over the face/body of the man who truly desires it.  

There is nothing more assuring than when a client thoroughly reads my ads, reviews, and my website before contacting me!  

*Disclaimer* I used to preach from a mountain regarding the importance of putting a phone number in an ad. Those things have changed not just due to the "last minute" Chicago men, but the lack of respectful communication. Ease of technology has made it so simple for anyone and anybody to click on an ad and dial.  *Hangs Up*

Email only is the way to go.

IMHO:

1. Last minute bookings are due to busy professionals with packed calendars.  How do you expect us to enjoy your services if we aren't TCB?  When an unexpected block of time, usually 3-4 hours, frees up it's time to HOBBY, LOL!

2. Oh NO, no screening, no party, period!  Who refuses to be screened?  How do they expect to develop some level of trust?  Screening protects both parties!

3. Not all ads are concise, I do read them, for example, sometimes locations are in correct.  I've seen ads/posts stating located NW burbs, make contact and they are in DuPage county, or O'Hare, but located in Chicago, etc.  Lastly, email takes forever when you only have 3-4 hours to enjoy a lady's company.

Again, IMHO.  Make it a great day, lets enjoy each other!

When I visited, I did have a couple of prebooks and got many, many last minute requests. I, too, listed my phone # in my eros ad (and saw two gents who called/texted for an appt). Since I was on tour, I didn't mind. I rather enjoyed the guys I saw there and found them to be genuinely sweet, interesting, and respectful. I loved it so much it's on my short list of places to tour. I'll be back in the fall!

I think maybe taking some time to revisit your ad, website, etc. If you're finding phone calls are not yielding fruitful results- take your number down! It may also feel far less invasive if you do that, thereby causing you less frustration. (I do find that people who call/text seem to be more needy. And I usually have to redirect them to my website for booking anyway)
The last minute efforts are probably just from busy working professionals who suddenly discovered time in their day to indulge. Eek!
I didn't have any issues with screening- but I have 3 screening options and at least one will suit any gentleman. I'm not sure your personal method but depending on the information you collect and the language you use in your screening instructions, it may make people wary. (Of course, there are always those difficult people who refuse to be screened in any city.)

I'm sorry you've found much to be desired from the people who have expressed interest in seeing you there. That really sucks!
Your post reads critically of the Chicago audience and I don't know if you'll get much constructive feedback from Clients themselves.

-- Modified on 8/10/2017 12:05:16 PM

If a provider looks at my P411 profile and decides to contact N number of my 50 OKs, no problem.

If a provider asks for my name, DOB, SSN or any of that other nonsense, I thank them for their time and get steppin'.

Exactly. Sometimes the screening information gives too much access to my personal life. I don't expect it, but without that same access into yours like your real name, address, confirmed picture of a photo I'd sent to me by email, it's a little one sided and makes me feel uncomfortable. Join a verification site like TER, RSAVS, P411 and see clients that use those services if you need to feel comfortable. Or use a verification form. But understand discretion kinda goes both ways; there's a such thing as TMI.  

I need to say Ana does not ask for those levels of verification, but those are examples of what I've been asked for in the past.

Yes there is "gentle" screening and "hard" screening. I'm not trying to create a debate but there are reasons for both. No matter what, you are receiving unsupervised access to a person's body. They are allowed to ask for whatever information they feel is necessary; and if it's too much, you are allowed to politely bow out and keep it moving. However, in a place like Cook County, I would expect a bit of tough screening. I'm not from Chicago, but even I am aware of the higher threat LE poses there.  

 
This past year, there has been a consistent issue with verification sites. Let's be honest,  LE has been known to fake reviews and/or handles, and/or create providers. There was a review board infiltrated by LE in the Pacific Northwest. Last Fall, there were two gents in the Southeast that gave up their P411 accounts to LE. There were some clients on P411 sharing accounts; so you think Person A is showing up and it's really Person B.. Now, put yourself in the providers shoes; those are ridiculous stories to be on the listening end of or to be the protagonist of. Unfortunately, verification sites don't hold the same weight as they used to and many go so far as emailing a potential client's last couple of "okays" (because an "okay" is relative", asking for follow up information if necessary (DOB/city of residence/ giving you the option to send a photo if you're comfortable), or doing screening in person (paid social hour).  

 
Yes, screening is never 100% full proof; it's a matter of odds. Can this be limiting to those a person sees? Yes. Is there more peace of mind? I would imagine so. In addition, I would think if you're seeing a highly reputable provider there wouldn't be an issue with offering a bit more information; especially if that provider has never had a security breach/issue. And if this provider his highly reputable, why would they interfere with your personal life?  

Just my .02.  

 
LJ, xx

without a name, solid no from me.  I want to make sure with a provider you have seen before including reaching out to P411 providers that your name/number/email matches what they have for you.  P411 has been manipulated and compromised for many of us to accept it on it's own.  For me personally, P411 is only a way to pick the provider I want to ask for reference, otherwise it is worthless.  But hey, that is just me.  I will not base my safety on a company who has had so many breeches and busts come from it as my sole verifier.

Again, this is just me though and yes I turn down alot who reach out because if I am not comfy then we are not going to have a good time, and heck, I just don't need the $ that badly

There's what if's on both sides of the coin. Screening ultimately makes things safer for all of us. The screening methods one Lady uses versus another seem to be inconsistent. Unless we all agree to accept the same methods of screening then there will always be inconsistencies. If one Lady accepts the screening from a client another rejects then who's to say he/she is a legit client or not???

Now I contradict myself here. Screening is for her safely and your own. If I asked to a date and she DIDN'T ask for some type of screening info, that would make me feel more wary than the one who asked for what i thought was too much.

Now I contradict myself again we can all offer the same consistent screening process for everyone across the board. Create a process that we all can agree with that keeps a tight culture of those who are in and those who are out. But then we'd depend on the same groups of clients and providers and we'd make it harder for us all to meet new people because their not a part of the secret society.  

We gotta be lenient on both sides everyone. If she's asking for screening info it's for your safety and her own. And it'd be nice to have a couple different screening methods to make you Ladies comfortable cuz there's an exchange of trust the gets established on both sides.  

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An independent provider talked me into giving her my employment information this year. She agreed to be my reference; made screening much easier. I watched her delete our emails, put me at ease.