Has anybody spent $800 or more on a provider during a single 1 hour session?  Seems to me that these girls are very proud of themselves, and don't always offer greek or cim.  I take reviews with a grain of salt because I know some providers pride themselves on stellar reviews and bet most clients feel obligated to do so.  Also, some clients seem to be full of themselves when writing reviews.  My question is for the guy who hasn't posted reviews.  How often do you get what you pay for and what made it so great or not so great?

When the lady chooses to lower volume, she adjusts her rates accordingly.  The rates that are now that majority of the ladies have are too low for the amount of stress and humiliation they have to go through. You don't get to dictate their rates. This is not a whole sale, it's a HOBBY.

There is something to be said of a lady who carries herself like a lady. I would expect and think you will find the higher priced lady should stand out. She may appreciate the "finer things in life". Should be well dressed, hair and makeup pretty much flawless, clean location, educated, and zero drama. Keep in mind she probably expects the same in her suitors. This is not to say that you cannot or will not find all these qualities in women with lower rates. There is nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance and carrying yourself with class. IMHO I would agree that she should back that up with phenomenal services too.

I totally understand that volume factors into the service, you don't want someone who's run themselves ragged or might be too distracted to deliver a quality service.  I read babes_only question to be about "value".  When ever I pay more for something that's exactly what I consider.  For instance if I'm going to buy a Rolls Royce instead of a Mercedes, it hoping that it's a pretty terrific car and I would expect it to have some pretty neat and unique luxury features.

I've always wondered how that translated to the high end of this hobby as well.  It certainly seems like most of these ladies have spectacular looks, if the performance matches their looks would seem to justify the cost!  I think babe_only brought up a great question and I look forward to hearing from the group.

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but never for 1 single minute think that a lower or regularly priced provider spends every second on her back, or that a higher priced one doesn't.  It is all about ladies getting the types of leads that she wants in regards to the types od guests she wants to see.

You will even see this in cars, the higher priced are also great cars and they all drive.  However by paying more $ most expect that they will get some type of exclusivity, but that is not always the case.  However it does give those ladies the right to be more choosy which is never a bad thing for the lady that is.

If she is charging it, someone is paying it.  If you can't afford her(to the Original poster) then move on.  No one should be able to set another's rates and it certainly has no dictation on basis of services.  What one man desires another does not, as well many would be put off by ladies offering certain services, while others need that in order to book.  As with anything and the beauty of this hobby is that beauty and service quality is in the eye of the beholder.

GL, Sage

i have never-ever gone over 400. There's absolutely no need, in my opinion, for me to ever spend more than that for an hour session. This isn't to say that I'm right, its only my opinion.
I'm not judging those that pay more than that, nor am i judging those that charge more than that for their service

Why is it that when people ask simple questions in these forums, there is always somebody with a accusatory attitude?  Certain people are always trying to read between the lines instead of taking things at face value.  WTF!

Lawrence nailed it. I think it's about controlling volume.  
A phenomenal rate may only provide you with a "good" or "not bad" performance.  
It's no guarantee of a "once in a lifetime" experience.  
Granted, there are many providers with phenomenal rates who are 10's across the board.
But, there are just as many with more reasonable rates with 10's

Thanks for the support.  It's not looking good after more than 160 reads.

Did I say anything about dictating rates?  You failed to understand the simplicity of the question!

How embarrassing.

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...I wanted the person bad enough.
I've wasted a lot of money on other things not as fun as sex.

(Lawrence, this isn't aimed at you, you have some valid points. Except that not all of us feel humiliated. I sure don't. I'm proud, I'm horny, and I'm ready for more. My men treat me WELL. But you raised some more thoughts on rates.)

Raising rates, not entertaining guys who completely ignore our requests and instructions, and treat us like cum dumpsters are weeded out by being ignored. At least with me.

I no longer answer dudes who don't regard my needs for screening, time minimums, notice requirements, etc. If he can't read what my needs are before even meeting me, he's not going to listen to my needs (boundaries) during the session.  

The minimum payment guys pay, at least with me, is more than $900/$1,000 for 2 hours. That is just the cash part. They also pay with respect, dignity, and character. They say nice things, they don't say mean things. They don't touch me in ways I asked them not to. They treat me like a human being. The minute that stops, is the minute I stop paying them my physical affection & my love.

We have a choice as to who we see, and who we even talk to via email. My friend said something totally awesome to me today. "I am NOT a customer service center. That's not what you're here for."

Believe me, the day I stopped answering degrading emails, and emails that told me I was "less than" was the day I stepped up my game with the guys who pay in FULL. (Cash AND character.) They don't take away from me, they don't try to "justify" OTC time. And my rates coincide with my love.

Some dudes just want to judge an Escort on her customer service from start to finish, and hang the reviews over her head. "I have a two hour date, so I should get 3 pops."

I had that said to me the other day, and I thought in my head, "Ok, if that's the number in your head... I was gonna' try for six, but.." It's not pops for money, buddy. If you're looking for someone to dump your cum into, go dump your cum elsewhere, while I fuck the dudes who "get me"'s minds. I want a man to leave and wonder why I haunt him and seduce him at night while he's trying to sleep. Why he's in the shower, and "poof" there I am, fondling him invisibly.

Needless to say, that was our last date with the "number of pops" guy. I put a LOT into that date. I have way too much to offer to waste my energy on someone who doesn't pay in FULL. Cash & Character.

You guys don't even see what some of us put into ourselves and into our dates, and a lot of times we don't tell you what we put into it. Shit, you should see my face right now. I had three layers burned off for you guys to see fresh and vibrant, and I bathed in oil.. You have no idea.  

I'm done fucking around. And when I came back last July, I thought to myself, "I am going to do this differently." And I have. And we do have a choice on who we see. Any dude who has complained about rates and time minimums back in the day have never turned out well. And they could never be satisfied.

While I usually grandfather guys, (if they are good to me and don't go bad,) eventually, I will have an even higher minimum. If the dudes take advantage of their grandfathered rate, however, they get pushed into the new rates.

I'd rather keep my expenses low so I never have to say yes to someone I don't want to say yes to, than live large, showing off to my friends and family how rich I am with all of my possessions. BUT. What I have learned through this, is if I'm respected, treated well, and happy, in the end I get both. Finances and freedom to choose whom I want.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

I had the money, but it wasn't worth it to me. And I felt embarrassed, even though I could have bought it... but I couldn't be a regular there, that's for sure! LOL!


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Courtney -- You sound exactly like someone I'd hope to meet.  It doesn't seem like it's about routine for you -- you make it seem like your planning an adventure!

And the rate is cash AND character. Who goes to a store just to tell the owner he doesn't like their rates? How embarrassing.

I think that's the basic question.  7% of all communication is the words that are used -- The rest is tone, body language, volume, expression, etc.   (and hopefully the character of a person) So much is missed on a website.  I think the intent of this thread is pretty simple...Have guys who have paid I value felt is was worthwhile?  It seems like a pretty reasonable, straight forward and legitimate question.  It seems even more legitimate if you've been toying with the idea of trying to find a different level of provider.

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... Since I have read something that is to the point with grace and style.

Well done Courtney, I appreciate your words.

People can discuss what they want. It's all about what a person* is looking for. If he/she* wants it, and its worth it, then he/she* should get it.

Many people buy shoes, purses, and watches for 2-15 grand. How do they know it's worth it? By reviews? Or by trying it on and wearing it for a while?

Edited to include female lovers as well.

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I've had cold, impersonal, mediocre sessions with $800+ escorts. I've had excellent, friendly and fun sessions with $300 escorts. And vice versa. One of the highest-rated and most popular escorts in Chicago has had her rate at $350 for years. Paying more doesn't mean you'll automatically have a better time. Do your research.

See Courtney is kinda a perfect example of what I was trying to say. Yes she may have a premium rate, but she's putting a lot of effort into making not only herself, but her experiences special between her and her gentleman suitors. That's getting what you pay for in every sense.  

There are women that enjoy what they do and want you to enjoy their company just as much. She's experienced, clean, smart, respectful, passionate,  and very sexy. She expects the same in return. There's nothing wrong with the price if everything all lines up.  

Like she said she he was set on 3 pops, she was thinking 6. If you limit yourself before even seeing what a woman has to offer, then you'll never let her show you all she has to offer. Some people focus too much on the destination that they forget to enjoy the journey.

Muah @ Courtney

That's the fundamental point of this thread!  I can walk into Neiman Marcus, try on a pair of shoes -- If I like them I can buy them.  And since I'm buying at an upscale store and paying a premium I even have the option of returning them after I wore them.   NOTE: I AM NOT SUGGESTING WE NEED THAT OPTION HERE OR IN ANY WAY WOULD THAT BE REASONABLE.  But it is the fundamental difference -- We are looking at words and pictures on a computer to make a decision on a luxury item -- The original author for this thread was simply asking those who pay for the luxury services often if they believe it's worth it.

I have never paid $1k for an hour of time together, but if the overwhelming response to this thread was "hell yes!  you have no idea what what a different experience it is" I'd probably go for it.

and the experience was worth it because I saw the Lady I wanted to see. That being said, there was nothing greater nor was there anything worse about the date compared to a more moderately-priced provider. I simply paid more to see a particular woman "I" chose to see.  

With experience, I've found that the best dates involve some chemistry - and chemistry has very little to do with price. Sooo, the risk of a sub-par date is the same with a higher priced gal as with a more moderately priced gal. Also, for me, there appears to be a point of diminishing returns above a certain price point.  

I stick mostly with gals that have more moderate rates these days.

Either way, there's also prices women charge not only for time, but market. Some women are looking for dudes who don't question it too much. They want the guy who say "I want that." And then buy that, no hesitation in mind.

Wanting that in a client is not a bad thing either. It's less stressful.

I personally hate when a dude talks about his financial difficulties and that I am  "over his head financially, but I guess I'll try..". I usually don't see him again. Last thing I want is to feel like I'm emptying someone's pockets like a bully. To some dudes, my rates is pocket change.

I also don't like when he suggests he is making a sacrifice for me financially. That to me is a guilt trip. I never force anyone to see me. In fact, I encourage them NOT to see me, unless they're ready. I'm not out to prove to anyone either. I simply want people who want me to book me.

But it's like my office suits when I was 20, making 25k a year. $35 bucks tops. That was expensive to me. Now I won't say what an ensemble of clothing costs lol. But it's all in what is worth it.  

There are certain things we buy at no limit of cost. For me, hair skin and nails, looks, and presentation. And computers. Shoes and purses, I have a max.. That is also changing as i evolve. With some men, they get the less expensive car so they can spend that money on women.

If they want the girl, they just get the girl, no questions asked. So - again - the women are marketing themselves for that kind of guy. No pain involved on either end. There is less of a market for those guys, but her volume is lower too... Works out.

P.S. I always feel like, if I feel it too hard, and have to "gulp" before I buy something I want, I shouldn't be buying it, and I can't afford it. Sure, I could drop the cash, but if it makes me sweat, I can't afford it.

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Once again the price topic that has been discussed here ad nauseam!!!!!  Let this horse die already!!  I think of it like the housing market, some houses are priced fairly and that's why the sell, others are over inflated shacks and that's why they sit and sit without even a nibble.  Pick your max budget and stick with it, there are tremendous providers out there who are fairly priced.

a lady will exceed some expectations you didn't even know you had!
Taking you to a place you maybe either had never been or hadn't been in a long time.  
There's a synaptic connection when that happens. On the cellular level. And wham!  
You're toast! You'll be haunted for a very long time. It ain't the number of pops for some guys.  
It's the quality of the journey. It's not the ejaculative event that you remember....it's everything
that came before it.

And yes, I don't think a test drive will go over too well here lol! Maybe in the Splenda Daddy world... lol.

Some ladies hire professionals to do their writing, but some - you can tell they are writing their own ads. I write everything that represents me. My website, my blog, my tweets, my ads, my emails, everything...  

When I get an email from a guy, I use that email as his ad. I can usually tell by the first correspondence if the guy is going to book with me. If he fills out the form, I can tell if he is going to follow through and show up for the date. I can also tell if he's going to respect me, if he's a dominant alpha-male or more soft submissive, or more mutual exchange. What his needs are, and if i can fulfill them. If he has the potential to be a returner, or not. I can tell if we'll get along/have chemistry, if I'll like him, or if I think it'll just be "meh". For 900 bucks, I can deal with "Meh" if he'll still feel "wow". But there are times I can tell someone is going to be "wow" for me, which is the majority of people I see nowadays, if not all. Because I've taught myself to look for patterns.  

If I'm not 100% sure, I'll test it out with a couple more emails.  

In the job, I'm sure many of you guys and gals can tell when someone is just wasting time (yours or their own), is inefficient, is careless or arrogant, is detail-oriented, is too detail oriented, lol, creative, uses too much cliché jargon to sound like they know what the fuck they're talking about, lol or whatever.  

There are lots of guys who do a lot of hiring and firing here, and their ass is on the line as they're making sure their new hires will not only be able to do the job, but also be able to fit in with the company culture. To some people, it's not important, but to many, it's very important. (I'm one of those.)

The first way of determining if someone is even worth calling for an interview, is the resume. (Their "ad" or portfolio.) Mine is pretty fucking awesome, and I get some nice interviews with sexy CEO's and bosses. Meow, meow. lol.

Companies take a risk when hiring people, and even take a risk in the resume selection process. They ARE spending money by bringing someone into an interview even if they don't hire them... with resources such as employee salary dollars, time, office resources, parking validation, sometimes a nice lunch, depending on the job... etc. etc. So they are spending money and time, even though you don't see cash on the table. There is always a risk. They have to decide if that risk is worth taking of not. Part of that is whether or not they can afford the risk.

Even the applicant is taking a risk going to the interview. He/she's done as much as he/she can to study the company, but it's a different story when you actually walk in and interview the company. The person is spending money, time, and possibly other lost opportunities to fulfill the requirements of that interview.

After the first interview, there's still the risk vs profit. Some risk can bring hella more return with a prospect, but if it doesn't, there's a higher loss. But they may need to take that risk to gain the potential they're looking for.  

Many times, guys are paying those high rates so they're not caught in a line up and rotation in and out of the doors of a hotel.

We get a lot of guys who tell us to lower our rates, who boycott the rates by seeing us and writing bad reviews because they're pissed off about the rates, (I try to avoid that risk nowadays via first contact, as that's not too happy a spirit to be influenced by,) so when a guy contacts me, I think based on his resume, is this guy going to risk the service I'm giving to my 10K/20K/30K per year clientele? If it's a yes, the answer is no, if I haven't determined his profit could potentially bring in even more than each of my highest dollar clients. And a lot of that can be told by the first, second and third email to a trained eye. So - guys need to train their eye and do some trial and error for themselves. MOST people they're asking don't know what the fuck they're talking about, so find the few who actually do and weed out the rest of the advice givers.

Ok, I gotta' go, but hope that helps. I rambled a LOT. LOL.

See, you can tell that I sometimes have a tough time getting to the point. LOL.  

And based on my accuracy in the recent past "reading resumes" of potential clientele, the first impression I got from the OP was to bash higher priced providers. I challenge you to break apart each sentence and try to find what kind of reaction the OP is trying to get. Also notice, it is posted under an alias. There are undertones to the OP that suggest something, and suggest a certain response. I.e. attract posters who will agree.

There's a strategy, many people can see right through it.

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And no train wrecks yet. Lol

I raised my rates not because I wanted 'respectable" clients but rather that I had attracted some very wealthy men who were willing to pay any price for my time.  So I HAD to raise my rates, to take advantage of my new market opportunity.  I will only be a provider and do this for another 6 months or so, and I would like to make the best of it. Make money when you can. Wouldn't anyone?

However if providers think that increasing their rates will bring in guys with "character" or more respectable guys they are wrong.  Some of my favorite guys in the business, I met on BP, when I was "low rate" when I did massages.  They were very sweet, respectable and thoughtful. Great clients.  By the same token, some very, very rich men can be demanding and thoughtless at times, and they know it, so they shower you with cash and diamonds so you keep your mouth shut, but then some are absolute gentlemen. And I love them.
So there are nice guys everywhere on BP and in the Millionaire set. Its how you treat a man and that's how he will treat you. If the guy likes you he will pay what you want for your time.  Rates have nothing to do with the kind of guys a provider will get. Only how much money she will make.  

At least that is what I have experienced.
Kisses  
Frederica

Funny thing the very best ladies would not even enter this pissing match and avoid this type  
 of drama and the only thing they post on TER is there ads. With that being said it is up to you
to research the ladies you want to see.

 I can tell you from personal experience some of the top ladies are worth their rate and some I felt  were overpriced and not as skilled as you would think. Like everything you buy in life some things you are thrilled with and somethings you regret but then again you can't go to Vegas and bitch about what you lost at the tables when you chose to go there

This week I was chatting it up with another provider and she said that rates are more about the man than the lady. That got me thinking and one line in your post simplifies it, "she probably expects the same from her suitors." Its taken me a couple of days to piece together how that is true, but now that I think about it my own experiences demonstrate such.

For example,
Whenever I feel the men whom contact me are making the pre-date steps cumbersome (i.e. observing how much notice I need, excluding what they are seeking such as session length in/out etc from their inquiry, one liners asking for information that is in bold and large font on my site)....I reduce the frequency of time spent being a secretary by my raising the rate for the session length I'm getting the most problems from - or - make it unavailable.

That usually happens because its the only thing I can do to reduce what can begin to feel overbearing.
I've re-organized my website numerous times to prevent this, but have learned through experience that the solution is almost always in the rates. Evidence that the rate structure and dollar amount is reflective of who the woman attracts to her.

Courtney said in her post that a friend said, "I am not a Customer Service department. That is not what you are here for." That was me who said that. It sounds harsh without more "filler," but our point is that this is exciting for both parties. When we are spending 3x as much time being a secretary for a man that is 3x less fun than guys we've known and loved for years, guys who brighten our life up...we aren't best for those guys due to expensing energy into men that we may never ever meet.  

I could go on and on, but it looks like both men and women have already summarized varying aspects to the "higher rates" and what they represent.

I think you missed the original point of the post.  Its about the value of the rate not the rate of the services.  If the service is overvalued there is a concern in my opinion.  However, if a client is willing paid for those prices, then it is market, however, similarity to the current housing market similar, there are some overvalued property on the market which can cause trickle effect once the market burst.  To me, this city as most recently is notorious for having some ladies overvalue there service, to a point, where I see them lowering back their rate to normalcy after or post special.  I think the issue is the service is in questions, not the rate.  On the other hand, I am willing to travel out of state or fly in a lady to receive quality services and ladies I want to see.  I wish, there was a local lady with the same desire and qualities, but they few in between.

About Chicago - economically the city is booming. New roads, Versace is coming back to Walton street after a decade hiatus, new jobs, new small businesses, new hotels, the Peninsula is rennovated and so are others seated on Michigan Ave. What you have critiqued regarding the Chicago based women's rates might have to do with other income opportunities that make them less available even if its temporary.  

Regarding the point of the original post, his question was specific to those who don't write reviews and see ladies $800/hr or more (i.e. men who prefer not to publicize who they are boning or the rate they pay for fun).  Psychologically, thats a completely different man than the guys who have left such ladies a review. Thats a man that is invisible to him so he posted here.  His question asked how often do they get what they pay for what what makes it good? Or as you said, the value of the rate.  I don't fit into his criteria of "a man who doesn't write reviews and sees ladies $800/hr or more" so I couldn't include myself in a direct answer to him. That doesn't mean I don't get the point. I just respect the OP's time enough not to make him read something from me when he was clear that he didn't want to hear from those outside of the criteria.

I was not speaking of the economic of Chicago, but the quality of service for some ladies.  I definitely understand his point, but I do wish both side of parties understand and respect each other point view.  It not about the price, it is about the market and service.  During the Tech boom in the '90, ladies were charging higher rate along with providing quality services.  All I am saying service is important to me.  In regards to affordability, I agree if a client cannot afford a lady at her stated rate, then he should fine someone in his price range.  However, if her rate is $800 per hour and provide, I call "backpage" services, then that where I have problem.  As I stated before both have a point and this has been discussed some many times and no one is right.  I just want both the client and providers to understand each point of view on the issue and stop jumping to conclusion.

I hope I am one of those clients!  Good luck in your future endeavors!

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There are many generous men out there...they appreciate the unconditional attention of lovely ladies.  You get what you pay for by valuing the total expereince and making sure you are really present and invested.

I sure hope no one books with me for specific services. I started as a backpage girl, and my "services" were great! A rich wall Street guy booked me at $250 the same time he was booking $1,200 LA and New York girls on a regular basis for multi-hours. Why? Because he wanted to book "me". And he obviously spent hella lot more on me as he learned we were compatible lol.

How about booking because you want a lady? (And emailing them pretending to book just for a pen-pal doesn't count.)

Like. Someone sees Courtney Ova. He says, "I want that girl. I'm going to book HER. I like HER." Much better than, "I want that girl's services. I'm going to book her services. I like her services."

Total lack of intimacy. And if you come in looking for something exact, you're probably going to miss out on a lot, simply by micro managing her.

If I get the feeling someone wants to book me to make me prove my "services" are worth the price, that's going to be a boring date, and he will be disappointed.

I guess I can swing from chandaleirs as you walk in, and blow fire out of my mouth lol! That would be a bucket list checkoff lmao!


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and I LIKE it.

There are many beautiful ladies in this city whom provide terrible or "backpage" services and so called unattractive we provide excellent service in this city.  I book a lady based on service, not just look alone, it just me.  Yes you have to prove your service with me.  It not just a date, it is business as well, as most ladies in this hobby can contest to.  Returning and satisfied clients/customers are important to any business.  It's all about preference and chemistry, mostly as well.

That is a fact and needs to be acknowledged and accepted.  

Every man has their own selection criteria.  

I could be wrong, but I think this is the type of man the OP wanted a response from.
We get so many emails and have to read between the lines as we are deciding if the man is someone we want to spend time with. The OP didn't flat out say what he was seeking (because as you've experienced men who will only see women with higher donations are not always assholes)...so OP likely didn't want to offend anyone (hence the alias).

For starters, if you have to see yourself as a customer to feel like you are getting your money's worth - you're doing it wrong. Justification is not what you are here for.  You're are here to get blown, bounced on and have a loyal friend with a hush agreement attached. I see that by reading between the lines. No one is forcing you to do anything. Lets be clear.  

You don't want the lady to be thinking about service while she is blowing you, you want her to be thinking about YOU! If she's blowing you and thinking about service, she's going to be thinking "OK I'm an equal opportunity Gal and I gotta make sure I do this to every dick that has the funds" and yes the sad part is that is what she will be thinking while she is blowing you. Not after or before. The mind doesn't work that way. Now if she is blowing YOU she's thinking YOU love it slow and sloppy so I'm going to work on doing it this way, but even better next time. You want the latter, admit it.  

You know those pictures where to one eye it looks like a butterfly and to another eye it looks like 2 people kissing? That's the theme here.

Fix how you view yourself and you won't feel that there's such a lack of service options available.
The same way ladies fix how they view themselves so they can make it to date #4 over and over again with their lovers.

If I had a dick, I would let you blow me. In fact, if I had a dick, I would PAY you to blow me. (but we would also have a nice dinner, and work up to these mindful ways over regular dates...)

Yeah, I wish I could explain it, but there is something about having to prove yourself that makes the sex different. Once I have to prove myself, the relationship is over, because it becomes staged. Some guys thrive on making a girl continually prove herself, while showing her she's further and further from the mark. And that's ok. If that's what they want, then that's ok. But I think that should be charged as a fetish, if you ask me.  

I just am compatible with a different type of guy. I definitely don't get along with the Alpha Male type.

I think what some guys are looking for are little perks, like... "Thank you for being an Honors member. Here is your free water bottle!" lol. But that's just not what I'm looking for, because that's not something I can service without becoming a cunt. I would rather give little perks of "extra special" over time as I specifically learn a guy over little hints and vibes I pick up from him.

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where scientists are trying figure out why these tiny pieces of matter act differently when there's a camera watching them... they say "The electron decided to act differently, as though it was aware that it was being watched." And they've been doing experiments on this over and over and over again, and from what I gather, are still mind-boggled. It coincides with my theory on Micro-management vs Macro Management. Even while using the brain, too much conscious thought can micro-manage the unconscious parts of the brain, and it changes how the rest of the brain processes, even up to the ways the body heals itself.  

We've had people trying to figure out why things and people act in different ways under different circumstances for YEARS. Hell, even the DSM is updated regularly! (Did you know foot fetish is now a diagnosable mental health disorder? lol!)

So for this OP, it is a "why do people do what they do?" i.e. "why does this girl act like this with me, and like that with someone else?" or girls ask "why with this guy did I feel like a goddess, but the next guy, I felt like a lost soul?" or "Why does this girl charge this much, and that girl charge that much?" We even had the quick judgment in this thread... "Women who are worth something wouldn't be posting on this thread." lol. So why is Courtney Ová even posting on this thread? lol!

The easy way to solve these problems is to make a quick judgment and move on. Or just not engage at all. But some of us actually want to know "why"?

In the end, if you want to look deeper into something, you're touching on questions that even people who have studied their whole lives still scratch their heads. But the people who don't scratch their heads are usually the like-minded people with similar outlooks. Or people who have spent a great deal of time really considering what they want to offer to the sex world, and what they want to charge, and why. Trying to explain that to someone who has put a total of 20 minutes of thought into it on a TER discussion board, just isn't going to happen. Though it will plant some seeds, and will provide information to draw from at a later time...

Over time, we just have to agree to disagree, or we have to accept that we don't know all the answers. (Or even accept that we don't want to take the time and thought it takes to really understand the questions we ask. Part of understanding is being put in a similar situation for a good length of time.)  

When it becomes a matter of worth, or an expectation of something I do not offer, (such as the service of being micro managed and analyzed/directed in my intimate affairs,) then we have to not only agree to disagree, but also agree to move on and find happiness elsewhere.

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When I was doing more porn in LA, I raised my rate. I didn't like the type of clientele I got with that. I like being at a more accessible rate for guys who are reasonable and straightforward.

When you go over $800 it seems there can be pretension on either side. I've heard girls just act as though you should be pleased with their presence - and on the flip side the guys like to act like you owe them the world for the $800+

I think you should go off of what you think of the girl in conversation, pics,  and how she presents herself. I do keep myself above a certain rate at all times to keep the riff-raff off my plate, but going super high causes its own problems. I took my rate back down also because I didn't want to seem like i NEED to be paid that much to do my job, insinuating maybe I need a grand to feel ok with it, which is not the case

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I usually see providers in the 400-500 range. However, just once, I did see a provider whose donation was much more than $800...she was from one of those "elite" agencies that bring models to tour.  This provider was a PB model I had dreamed of meeting so I jumped at the opportunity and it was fantastic, if only for 1 hr. I do not regret it at all and would see her again in a second (but it appears she has retired)!  Her skills were good, but not extraordinary. She did not offer greek or cim, but that did not bother me. She was absolutely beautiful, amazing face and perfect body; and surprisingly very easy going, not full of her self.  I justified it mainly because of her exclusivity. How often can a guy say he has been with a hott model who you see in pages of a top magazine?? To me, if a provider is beautiful AND offers some elite exclusivity like this, then it is worth extra $$$.

I disagree with this.  I think i am customer, because I am.  This is not "match.com", this hobby is to relieve stress and drama from everyday life for me.  It's all about fantasy, if you feeding your clients the vision relationship/friendship you missing the point of the hobby, in my opinion.  The service is important, because it will make me come back for more not because of the conversation or drinks/dinner.