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Oh, Alyson...
Tdalex 1222 reads
posted
1 / 34
How do you determine the extent of a date

So if I asked a provider to join me for a cubs game this weekend, would I expect to pay for a four hour date?  

I'd like to have a lovely young girl join me for the cubs-sox game, but I dont know that I want to pay $1600. How is this viewed?  

Is this just a standard 4 hour date or however long it is. Maybe I'm not thinking about it clearly. This would be different from other dates for me.

Your experience would be helpful
Thank

Jack Bauer 378 Reviews 818 reads
posted
2 / 34
You are paying for her time

Couple of questions:

1) Have you seen this provider before? If so, how many times?
2) Are you expecting her to simply go to the game? Or are you expecting pre-game or post game fun?

GaGambler 627 reads
posted
3 / 34
I bet you it would depend a lot on whether or not she was a Cubs fan

A woman might consider taking less money to do something she really likes, and it would help a LOT if she liked you as well.  

Personally I wouldn't dream of paying a woman the same rate to take her to a game as I would for a four hour BDC date, but that's just me. One thing to consider as well, a woman who INSISTS on her full rate to go to the game with you is most likely doing it ONLY for the money, and equally likely won't really be having that great a time with you. OTOH, a woman who responds "I would LOVE to go to the game with you, here is what I am willing to do rate wise" is likely to be the lady that you would have a lot more fun with.  

I think all sports fans have brought people to a ball game who really weren't into the game, don't you think it's more fun to bring someone who genuinely is having a good time and can actually relate to the game?

Tdalex 819 reads
posted
4 / 34
Re: You are paying for her time

Good points. I'd prefer someone I've seen multiple times. Unfortunately since one of my favorites moved I've only seen girls occasionally. Which might explain why I miss hanging out. True when you see someone over a period of time, it is a bit different. I don't expect a girl to ask me to spend the night (off the clock) that I don't know well, but this has happened before.  

I wasn't expecting any extras necessarily. Just a game, laughs, drinks, and cubs win, and maybe I win too or not.  
Posted By: Jack Bauer
Couple of questions:  
   
 1) Have you seen this provider before? If so, how many times?  
 2) Are you expecting her to simply go to the game? Or are you expecting pre-game or post game fun?

Sage of Chicago See my TER Reviews 791 reads
posted
5 / 34
If you have a provider you have an established relationship and/or

that is a Cubs/Sox fan she might offer you a discounted "out" rate but keep in mind "out" rates just get you time out with them, not lovey dovey trying to give you a handjob or even touching or kissing at that discounted gifting.  They would also want some BCD time either before or after to make it more fully worth their while.  Posting an ISO here might get you a responce.  Just keep in mind that many ladies will not want to trade anything for the ticket price, it is just an added price to your date(much like you pay for dinner if taking a provider out to eat), if in fact you are planning to stay there with her.  As long as you are there it is an appt and up to each individual lady if the out time will be discounted or not.  

Another thing you could look for is a provider who offers a Clock Free date, they are usually for people who want to goto concerts/plays/sports games/movies/event with a provider spending alone time with her for a couple hours at the end.  That might suit what you are looking for and generally are capped at 6-8hrs and run 1100-2000 depending on the lady from what I have seen.

Jack Bauer 378 Reviews 723 reads
posted
6 / 34
Well then

If you have tons of money to throw away, then pay someone to attend the game with you. Personally I would go with a "real" friend to enjoy the game. You can then use the money for BCD fun with providers

Bowman1138 30 Reviews 675 reads
posted
7 / 34
Depends

If you have a LONG established relationship with a provider, and she says something like "I really LOVE the Cubs but haven't been to a game in a while", then maybe you could offer to take her, and she might give you a good discount (or even OTC free), because she really wants to go to the Cubs.  But if just choosing a lady at random, be expected to pay her going rate for the time.

It's the similar for traveling. If the lady in question knows you well, and likes you well enough to feel very comfortable, she might give you a very good deal if you took her on that next business trip to Italy, because she's REALLY always wanted to go to Italy. But you'd be expected to pay for EVERYTHING...tickets, food AND whatever rate she comes up with.  She might even share your hotel room with you!

Sy

Gemma Coreana See my TER Reviews 644 reads
posted
8 / 34
Most providers have....

Packages that includes all that..   Time outside & inside her.... Do your research... Outing to me isn't  with just anyone, I have to have chemistry with them cuz I don't want to run into "reality friends" and have to explain whom I'm with....

Tdalex 552 reads
posted
9 / 34
Re: Well then

Thanks,   I have season tickets and go To lots of games. But after going with the same people you want to mix it up.  And since there are a lot of nice looking girls at wrigley it reminds me of some providers.

But as ap said below, why should I expect a different price structure, as this entire legitimate industry in the U.S. Is for time only.  

Also, ap, the national is not playing today, but fitz and the tantrums are playing post game

And when the Cubs win the World Series, I'll be there.

MasterOfTheObvious 487 reads
posted
10 / 34
Don't some escorts have "just hanging out" rates?

I would imagine based on some price structures, that the private rate is different from the public one.

Wait - there is no order or pattern with rate structures in this business. Nevermind.

You just have to ask

MasterOfTheObvious 453 reads
posted
11 / 34
If there is a possibility of you winning then you pay the rate for the date plus private time.

If you want to go home and shower then have fun she may ask for more for the private time. Otherwise she may be nice and do it but she may be bitter about it later. Best to just pay the price unless she has perks for regulars

MasterOfTheObvious 537 reads
posted
12 / 34
Or if her team is the opposing team. That would work too


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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 551 reads
posted
13 / 34
Re: I bet you it would depend a lot on whether or not she was a Cubs fan

Very true. If it is something she would enjoy, she might be willing to only charge him for the private time and the game is a bonus. I have a friend who does some work with the CMA awards and I was able to go twice... not a huge country music fan but live is a whole new world, plus the VIP allowed me to meet a lot of celebs like Nicole Kidman, Kid Rock, Reba, Kenny Chesney, etc. The event was about 5 hours in total and we spent 2 hours beforehand... I only charged for the 'before' activities.  

Posted By: GaGambler
A woman might consider taking less money to do something she really likes, and it would help a LOT if she liked you as well.  
   
 Personally I wouldn't dream of paying a woman the same rate to take her to a game as I would for a four hour BDC date, but that's just me. One thing to consider as well, a woman who INSISTS on her full rate to go to the game with you is most likely doing it ONLY for the money, and equally likely won't really be having that great a time with you. OTOH, a woman who responds "I would LOVE to go to the game with you, here is what I am willing to do rate wise" is likely to be the lady that you would have a lot more fun with.  
   
 I think all sports fans have brought people to a ball game who really weren't into the game, don't you think it's more fun to bring someone who genuinely is having a good time and can actually relate to the game?

1718324 46 Reviews 346 reads
posted
14 / 34
Oh, Alyson...

I though your final sentence would say, "I wanna go with Cubs17."

EveAlexander See my TER Reviews 735 reads
posted
15 / 34
Many of us do-compare a lady's 1-2 hour rate with her 4, 6, clockfree rate...

Ladies who enjoy and prefer a more complete date with social time will usually have substantial cuts in their longer date options to both reward and incentivize the interested gentlemen.

Posted By: MasterOfTheObvious
I would imagine based on some price structures, that the private rate is different from the public one.  
   
 Wait - there is no order or pattern with rate structures in this business. Nevermind.  
   
 You just have to ask

Tdalex 542 reads
posted
16 / 34
Re: I bet you it would depend a lot on whether or not she was a Cubs fan

London are you a baseball fan. Or a Cubs fan. Maybe you should come to Chicago early and go with me Saturday or Sunday will be there today also  

Posted By: London Rayne
Very true. If it is something she would enjoy, she might be willing to only charge him for the private time and the game is a bonus. I have a friend who does some work with the CMA awards and I was able to go twice... not a huge country music fan but live is a whole new world, plus the VIP allowed me to meet a lot of celebs like Nicole Kidman, Kid Rock, Reba, Kenny Chesney, etc. The event was about 5 hours in total and we spent 2 hours beforehand... I only charged for the 'before' activities.  
   
Posted By: GaGambler
A woman might consider taking less money to do something she really likes, and it would help a LOT if she liked you as well.    
     
  Personally I wouldn't dream of paying a woman the same rate to take her to a game as I would for a four hour BDC date, but that's just me. One thing to consider as well, a woman who INSISTS on her full rate to go to the game with you is most likely doing it ONLY for the money, and equally likely won't really be having that great a time with you. OTOH, a woman who responds "I would LOVE to go to the game with you, here is what I am willing to do rate wise" is likely to be the lady that you would have a lot more fun with.    
     
  I think all sports fans have brought people to a ball game who really weren't into the game, don't you think it's more fun to bring someone who genuinely is having a good time and can actually relate to the game?

Don_Juan__ 722 reads
posted
17 / 34
Most ladies will give you off the clock time if...

you are a gentleman and buy them drinks/dinner.  A girl's gotta eat.

The great ones that keep me coming back to them are not clock watchers, they don't set up one appt right after another.  They make you feel valued and I do the same with them.  

I have never been charged to take a provider to a sporting event or dinner or 'public' time.  I always pay for the tickets and all that of course.  There are plenty of hot women who will do it for free on match or eharmony or tinder, so why would I ever pay for it????

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 619 reads
posted
18 / 34
Hahahahaa, not a HUGE fan but do like it more than football...

My passion is music and my favorite band (Breaking Benjamin) is not going anywhere near Chicago this year, or I would totally blow for those VIP passes again. 13 concerts and never bought a ticket ha ha ha. I also want to see Volbeat, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica and Five Finger Death Punch again... Psst, I did give a guy a BJ in Fway Park once, but that was just my fetish at the time. Wanted to do Yankee Stadium, then I saw Derrick crying his ass off because the original one was closing to rebuild. Boooooooo.

I_run_the_table 518 reads
posted
19 / 34
hahahahahahaha. You're freaking hilarious.

I have been at this a long time. I have never and will never spend any free time in public with a client. There's no benefit to me. Zero. When I want to date, I go to Tinder, OKC, JDate, wherever and find a man to whom I'm attracted, who is young and with whom I have things in common. This is not a dating service. This is a business.  

The smartest women in this business are here to make as much money as possible. For me, that includes clock watching and charging for all time. I make my clients feel quite valued. They make me feel valued by not asking me to give away something very valuable for which I charge - time

GramParsons 602 reads
posted
20 / 34
Re: hahahahahahaha. You're freaking hilarious.

Well said

Tdalex 405 reads
posted
21 / 34
Re: Hahahahaa, not a HUGE fan but do like it more than football...

Well Metallica will be at lalapolooza in chicago this year. Fitz and the tantrums were at today's game, which was a crazy day btw. My head is pounding. A bj at Fenway, u know wrigley field opened in 1914, I bet it's time for a little extra fun in the fridndly confines. How about i take care of you ar wrigley field.

Posted By: London Rayne
My passion is music and my favorite band (Breaking Benjamin) is not going anywhere near Chicago this year, or I would totally blow for those VIP passes again. 13 concerts and never bought a ticket ha ha ha. I also want to see Volbeat, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica and Five Finger Death Punch again... Psst, I did give a guy a BJ in Fway Park once, but that was just my fetish at the time. Wanted to do Yankee Stadium, then I saw Derrick crying his ass off because the original one was closing to rebuild. Boooooooo.

Don_Juan__ 588 reads
posted
22 / 34
Thanks. And that's your prerogative.

For you, it is all about time.  How much dick can fill your holes and get paid for it.  I'm glad that works for you as we all must have something true in this life.

The best providers are not clock watchers.  They build relationships and have their clients lining up to see them.  They don't need to advertise as they have a genuine connection with their clients.  They last a long time, are treated very well and are truly cared for by their johns.  They are true courtesans.  

Others are just holes waiting for a dick to fill them.  They are always seeing new guys because no dicks want the same hole twice.  After all, it is just a hole.  Once in a blue moon they will find a stupid brain attached to that dick eager to pay them to watch them eat a meal or watch them walk in public.  Most days though the holes are just waiting for the next, newest dick.  For when no connection is made, a new dick must be sought often.  Luckily for all the holes out there, there are many dicks waiting to fill them.

JamesDeenXXX 31 Reviews 462 reads
posted
23 / 34
Absolutely correct, this is a business and I agree with you [e]


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chicagojoe32 97 Reviews 484 reads
posted
24 / 34
1-0 Good guys!

Why are you limiting yourself to cubs fans??  Let's hear it from the beautiful Sox girls out there!!!!!  Go go white sox!

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 584 reads
posted
25 / 34
Is there no middle ground between these viewpoints?

Posted By: Don_Juan__
The best providers are not clock watchers.  They build relationships and have their clients lining up to see them.  They don't need to advertise as they have a genuine connection with their clients.  They last a long time, are treated very well and are truly cared for by their johns.  They are true courtesans.
 
If I expect my callers to respect my time, and not deliberately overstay their allotted time, does that make me a clock-watcher?

Personally, I don't think it does.  If we're talking or still playing and run over our designated time a bit... no big deal.   But if you're still in my place, yakking it up, after I've repeatedly hinted that our time is long since over... well, that's just not very respectful, in my opinion.  
 It should not matter whether I just want to leave so I can go home, have plans to meet a friend afterwards, or (heaven forbid!) really do need you out of there so I can shower and straighten up the place for my next visitor.  
Our time is up and unless we both agree to extend our P4P time, you really ought to respect that and take your leave.

Yes, I  advertise..... AND I have friends who've been clients for over a decade.      

Does that make me a hole to fill, who's just waiting for one more dick after the other?  
If this is your definition of such, then so be it.  

Again, I don't see myself this way.   I get new clients, who will hopefully become long-term friends, largely by advertising.  If there are never any new clients, then I cannot establish relationships with any clients, now can I??  

 
Oh.... and from my experience, the BEST providers (in terms of finding the right balance between providing personalized encounters/relationships while remaining professional) will maintain her own boundaries (perhaps even watching the clock!) without overtly making her friends/clients aware of it.  

 
But again... these are just my opinions.  Which I will always freely express, popular or not, sans-alias.

 

xoxoxoxox

Tdalex 466 reads
posted
26 / 34
Re: 1-0 Good guys!

I didn't see many beautiful sox fans at the game yesterday. Where are they. But yes I'm equal opportunity.  

The game was so so, sox played great. Cubs didn't hit. But before and after the game was great.

I just went with a friend, and we had a good time. Although he might be considered attractive by some, he is a he, and not my type. And he's a sox fan.  
 
Posted By: chicagojoe32
Why are you limiting yourself to cubs fans??  Let's hear it from the beautiful Sox girls out there!!!!!  Go go white sox!

chicagojoe32 97 Reviews 419 reads
posted
27 / 34
Re: 1-0 Good guys!

Was there as well and saw a few hotties wearing black, alas though it is trendy to be a Cub's fan and hang out at the worlds biggest outdoor bar that happens to have a baseball game going on but that's a topic for another time.  Will be there Sunday as well hope I can bring my broom!

MasterZen 34 Reviews 520 reads
posted
28 / 34
Debbie, I've found that there is a lot of ground in the middle...

and that the extremes also exist. Personally, I prefer not to play at the extremes, because the risk seems to be pretty high that someone feels like they "lost" something - and I don't see much of life as being a zero-sum game.

That being said, neither Don Juan nor I Run The Table is wrong, per se... whatever two people agree to, for whatever their own reasons. I do think it is irritating when such statements are expressed as absolutes and entitlements - whether from the guys or the gals (and I'm not saying they were in this case).  

I've had many dates where we had fun and just spent more time together, regardless of the clock. I'd never expect it, and thus when it happens it is special. I've also had many dates where the bell rang and I left right away; a basic transaction.

Tjjamison2 102 Reviews 382 reads
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29 / 34
Re: 2-0 Good guys!


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posted
30 / 34
Aren't you the a-hole

in love with Rachel from Rockford?

Jordan_Carter See my TER Reviews 522 reads
posted
31 / 34
Another way to look at it

Assuming the provider of interest is local and is not a lady who has revealed her real name to you, there is a privacy risk associated with a public date. Each lady, naturally has a different risk level (some women are married, some are well known models, etc etc)

In business school they teach: The higher the risk, the higher the reward.

We discuss that we are paid for time, which can make a lengthy date pricey....but I think that the risk of bumping into people we know is worth realizing as well. By default, the gent initiating the invite has covered his bases, the lady may not have as much control (or experience).

Just some food for thought :
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Don_Juan__ 444 reads
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32 / 34
Re: Aren't you the a-hole

hunh?  never seen her, assclown.

OhCharlie See my TER Reviews 523 reads
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33 / 34
Well that's a little dramatic.

If you really have a problem paying for an experience where this is how you talk to a lady or feel about what you're doing, then maybe it's not for you. This isn't the first time you've expressed this sentiment and I gotta say it's sad. Not you, just that that's the impression you've gotten so far. There is a lot of in between and it's unfortunate that you have not seen that.

GaGambler 461 reads
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34 / 34
I think Dumb Juan and I run my Mouth deserve each other

They are both EXACTLY what everyone on the other side of the equation wants to avoid in a date.

Personally I would never see a MHB like "Irunmymouth", nor would I wish DumbJuan on any hooker that I actually like, although I think DJ is just "funnin with us" while I think "IRunmymouth" is telling it exactly as she sees it from her POV. What a miserable human being she must be

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