:::::sigh:::: here we go again. I've had to have at least 3 fake reviews pulled in the last 6 months.

My latest one from a mr. Ghostfacetony gives glowing scores (9/9) which is really lovely, but lists all kinds of things I don't offer. Now I have to deflect inquiries from gents about things I dont provide. And...I'm hoping no one shows up at my door and expects treatment like this and when they don't get it, gives a bad review. It takes weeks to get the powers that be to pull something like this and can wreak havoc on my reputation in the meantime.

The entire review is fake and I know I never saw this gent. For one he says our date took place as an oc to ohare and I haven't done that in at least 6 months. He then states that I gave him Greek (no! I don't provide this, ever), cim (again never!), and gave him extra hours of OTC time, (sadly, this is never the case either).

Now, clearly I ruffled this gents feathers by not making a date due to screening, or not responding to him at all, or...he wanted free VIP. Who knows. But his calculated move to put up what seems like a glowing review, clearly has a hidden adjenda.

Ladies...how often does this happen to you? And how do you deal with it?

Gents...if you read a review that clearly lists services that is inconsistent with a girl's profile and previous reviews, do you assume or hope for those things for your date with her?

Tired and confused,

Veronica Sweets

or maybe the correct term is punished. The popular girls also seem to have more free-VIP fake review problems.

Not sure how to answer your question because my reaction to reviews depends on how many "don't knows" there are in the list of services. Profiles not having those fields filled in are subject to interpretation - maybe she does offer those services, who knows? It's a lot easier when the fields indicate NO for services not offered. The TER reviewers probably have a tough time sorting through the various fields when they conflict in different reviews. I can't see most of your profile right now but if you have fields with don't know and you don't offer those services, contact TER and ask them to put NO in those fields. I don't know for a fact that they'll do this but I don't see why they'd have a problem with it.

Ugggg, that happened to me too. The scores were okay but he said I did something I didn't normally do. I sent him a PM with no response. I pretty much just let it go after that.

~Bexy in Seattle~

VS...I read the review from ghostfacetony and am either not reading the same one you are, or there is a definite problem in how I am interpreting his words.

You highlight that he got Greek..and he does not state that at all.  He did comment that he "hit that ass from the back", but honestly many guys write that to discuss doggy style.  That was my initial reaction when I read this, and certainly Greek never crossed MY mind.

You then suggest the reviewer states that he got extra hours of OTC.  And again, he only commented that he "had gone over time".  That was it...not suggesting by more than, in my interpretation, a few minutes.  And again, many will write that if they got an extra few minutes.

The only item that you are concerned about that he did comment on is CIM.  And again, many guys will write something like this (even though you don't "allow" it) if they start to pop in the mouth, and you finish him off with your hand.  

That's how I'm reading the review.  Whether you did or didn't see this guy, only you and GFT know the real story.  Did you do an outcal...I don't know and really it shouldn't be all that terribly important.

If indeed it is a "fake" it certainly seems like he enjoyed the session (that supposedly didn't happen).  And why wouldn't you want to try and correspond with GFT and ask him to remove this? Like I said, most of the time it is fairly easy to spot the "fakes".  This one seemed fairly genuine (with the exception of the CIM).

And to tell you the truth, many of the gals I have seen do indeed offer up things that are not necessarily in prior reviews.  It is farily common, perhaps not with you, but with many others.

based on your profile or previous reviews, I put little stock in the validity of them.

There is always the chance that YMMV and that you did do some different activities with a particular client, but I would never assume that just because he may have had that type of session with you it is one that I can expect.

I look at several recent reviews and then determine what is off limits and what is not.  And my guess is that most experience guys in this game do the same thing.

She never saw the guy, never did an outcall to the airport, and we should take her at her word. She also said it was just the latest of 3 fake reviews. It makes no difference how good or bad the review is, it's fake. The session never happened and the information presented in the fake review is causing her problems with other clients.

CPA, look at her list of services and identify which ones are "don't knows". I can't do it right now.

I'll give you credit for being consistently stupid ChiTownz.  Guess you're not able to read.  Outcall and CIM were mentioned in the review.  Guess TER needs to come up with a coloring book version so you can follow along next time.

If you read my post I am only questioning why a prospect would think that this reviewer got something that she doesn't normally offer.  It certainly didn't read that way in the review.  And VS made comments on things that were written, but I read the review as well, and certainly didn't see those services being discussed (the way VS posted initially).

Typically "fake" reviews are written with a particular connotation.  I didn't see that in this review, but as VS suggests that this never happened, then so be it.  As I said, my only question is what services did the "reviewer" get that she doesn't offer?  And I just don't see it, let alone why a prospect would think anything other than what all her other reviews state.

And as I suggested, this issue should be taken up with TER and the reviewer.  None of us can change what is written other than the provider and reviewer.

Umm...I did read the review several times. I have not seen this guy. Yes, the review does seem wonderful. You might want to ask yourself: Why in the heck would I complain about a glowing review and say it was a fake if it isn't? Hmm...I don't think any lady would.

The review is a fake- thru and thru. You should read my post more carefully. I did say that I haven't done an OC to O'Hare in over 6 months and listed all the things that are cause for issue with it. Of course I could go on with the falseness of the review because it's all false.

But honestly, you miss the point completely. The questions for the ladies and gents was clearly stated in my post. This was not meant to be a back and forth about weather anyone thinks it's a real review or not. I know it's not. ghostfacetony knows it's not.

Regardless, I"m glad he had a lovely time in his head (the big one).

Veronica Sweets

PP, there's no "don't knows" on my profile. Which also means that TER shouldn't have approved the review because it lists all kinds of things that are inconsistent with my profile.

:::sigh::::

Thanks for your faith in the fact that I am a truthful person. I appreciate it, even if others disagree.

Kisses,

Veronica Sweets

It is an honest question to gents and ladies about how often this happens and how much weight is placed on things like this.

Of course if you want to debate it's validity, by all means, but it's a waste of time, IMHO.

Veronica Sweets

Thanks for sharing your experience. It's always frustrating in the very least

XoXo,

Veronica Sweets

Sorry VS...your first FOUR paragraphs speak only to the review and it's "falsenss".  Not until you get to your last TWO paragraphs do you ask the "age old question" of WHY?

There was no reason to hightlight the review if indeed you didn't want to bring this to everyones attention.  You could have left all of that out, and simply asked the questions in your last two paragraphs.

And to answer your questions, I will spend my time reading enough reviews to determine if the lady is consistent with what she provides.  There is the occassional "embellishment" review..well maybe more often than not, that I always take into consideration.  For a guy who has spent at least a few dates out there, he has learned to read a review and get a pretty good idea of how things are going to transpire.  The comments on all of the boards discussing "embellishment of reviews" is an everyday occurence.  And if a guy can't learn (very quickly) to understand how this game is played..well!

And I suspect that is the "guy" you are concerned about.

And as I said in my prior posts, there was nothing in GFT review that would have thrown me for a loop...whatsoever.

This happens all the time sadly.  I honestly think it's a 50/50 of free VIP and you  being a popular girl and your tough screening.

Don't worry my Sweets.  Hopefully, anyone with half a brain would also view your website to see all of your do's and don't's and will not just book off of one review.

Kisses My Sweet Vivi,

Giselle a.k.a. Gigi

He's right.  Your first 4 paragraphs complain that the man lied about things you'll do...

...but the review, as ChgoCPA points out, does NOT state what you claim.

I have no reason to believe you're making any of it up, I don't know you, but you're asking to be believed over the reviewer - and yet your claims are clearly not consistent with what is in the actual review.

I know women who do things, and then say, "but please don't put that in a review!  I don't do it with everybody"

Could this whole story be an attempt to cover the truth that you did some of these things for him?  Don't know, and frankly, don't care.

TER should not allow girls to have reviews pulled that they claim are "fake", without input directly from the guy who wrote the review.  Or God forbid a well-known girl gets a "7", and claims that's impossible!!  Only after hearing BOTH sides should any review be pulled.  

In this case honey, there are unfortunately holes in your story.  

"Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." -- Sherlock Holmes

Nope.

Reviews with 3 sentences and no detail get posted and other reviews with a lot of detail don't. It's a complete crap shoot and it depends on who's approving the review. Some approvers are thorough and others appear to be button pushers.

Perhaps TER could come up with pop-ups for your dumb ass.

The issues are the inconsistencies between what she claims and the actual review.  So for you to "accept" the Outcall and CIM as absolute lies - when you weren't even there - makes you as stupid as you are ignorant.

I take it you were not in the room.  I take it you have not spoken with the man who wrote the review.  I honestly state that I do not know the truth, only what is claimed by both.

If you have an opinion you wish to debate, feel free to state it.

Otherwise, take your personal attacks off this Board and shove them up your fat ass.

"I have no reason to believe you're making any of it up"

What part of my post did you not read?

Just so you know MC, I have not seen VS for a session.  The fact is that you are a board troll that likes to start crap for no reason.  Under your real handle, you like to kiss ass of a number of providers.  Then you use your alias to ridicule them or mock them.  Pretty brave little man.

You say that you want to debate the facts.  But the fact is that you are going to side with the reviewer anyway, so why bother discussing anything with you.  A few weeks back, you cried like a little girl because SouthSideIrish's revenge review of Ashley Marie was taken down.  You were in his corner only  because you were called out on trying to haggle her rates [offering to refer clients to her...LOL].  You then ridiculed Veronica Sweets recently on asking for references.  You were made a fool by a number of posters.  Once you are spurned, you try to exact revenge with your 'ChiTownz' alias.

Please spare us with an attempt to debate the facts.  Debating with fucktards like yourself is a waste of time.

Who are you talking about??   I now can add paranoia and delusions to your list of psychological problems...

I never kiss a provider's ass and then re-post ridiculing them.  Nor have I mocked anyone.  My comments are always based upon facts.

I don't call people names, nor did I stick my nose into other people's opinions like you always do.  I agreed with ChgoCPA on his points, so back the fuck off and worry about your own business.

In your eyes, everyone is out for revenge, or to post fake reviews, or out to get you or your friends.  The whole world is against poor little ChiTown and his friends.  

People who lose arguments on the facts usually resort to name calling.  Interesting that you haven't attacked ChgoCPA personally based on his views here - afraid of him?

You can't take it and then try to pit me with another poster.  What a loser.  BTW - ChgoCPA does make valid points about certain review comments and the perception they create.  His comment about the perceived Greek due to the review statement was right on.  Anything else you want me to comment on little man?

BTW - why don't you re-read your alias comments and the posts under your real handle.  Use the search engine and you'll see a major difference in the tone.

Too bad I have a flight to catch.  I wanted to see what silly retorts you'll come up with.

You should be banned from this site for your language.

Try acting like an adult without name calling.   Has TER verified your age?  I know 12 year olds who write nonsense like this.

If your opinion is so important and your insight so keen, why are you posting with an alias? No need to answer, we already know.

Notice that the review in question is gone and it's gone because it was fake. VS could have said nothing and let a glowing 9/9 fake review stand. Why would a provider complain about a good review? Because it wasn't about the review, it was about the content of the review misleading perspective clients into believing certain services were available that aren't. You're attacking someone who is trying to be honest rather than deceptive. In the future, reserve your alias attacks for providers who really have something to hide and are known for being deceptive. Feel free to go after providers with 7/7 reviews trying to get them pulled but realize that in many cases, they really are fake reviews and you're just plain wrong.

Kinda sucks being wrong doesn't it?

Enough said

Very objective advice for the rest of the guys.  Go back to your click

It really sucks to go into an appt and think that certain things are on the menu, when they never ever were. I don't know about you, but the hobby is really a luxury to me, and I like to know as much beforehand as possible. Cuts down on the disappointments for us hobbyists, and for the awkward moments for the providers. VS post was basically a win/win

I just think reviews are too easily removed by providors sometimes

Its good to read all the reviews, as there often seems to be one or two that don't fit the pattern.  I also notice some say covered bj, while others say BBBJ --  and I assume there's a reason why a girl will do something for one guy and maybe not the next.  Dont blame them.  Just as some I know have things on the menu in certain cases, but don't want it made public knowledge.

BTW, in no way did I intend a personal attack on Veronica, just giving an objective blunt opinion.  Like I said, i wasn't there.  

But thank you for your professional, thoughtful response.  Its nice to have an adult conversation with someone and exchange viewpoints, without being called a name like a 12 year old.

Thanks SOjourner7. That is my point exactly. There is a real problem for both parties if the facts have been misled and a gent thinks a lady provides what he wants and she does not. I have heard that ladies have in the past done things for their Favs which aren't on the menu. The only time that is the case with me is submission. I must trust someone before entering into a situation like that. Beyond that....my menu never changes...not even when I'm drunk at a bar and find some cute civie to take home...lol!

I for one do not want someone to waste their time and money to see me and have less than they expected because of misleading info. I feel saddened that there is so much mistrust around this hobby. Warranted or not....we should all play fair and just have fun!

Kisses,

Veronica sweets