What makes you assume that this community is just straight oriented in preference? Many of the ladies are bisexual, and most guys that are bisexual are still in the closet. For all any of these ladies know, they've been with many bi men and don't know it. Hence the need to be safe..... I'm not implying you're wrong about your safe practices, you have to do what you feel is right. IMHO this community is much safer that the plain street Hooker scene or in some instances... the bar scene
I'm wondering if there are any Chicago area providers that would do a session with two bisexual guys. Both guys are 40, in decent shape (average) and accomplished professionals. The idea would be for all participants to enjoy each other....so PSE, vs GFE....I guess.
Physical preference in women, thin.
Just getting an idea at the moment if this is something that is even possible to arrange.
Do a lot of providers see gay/bi guys? That's super risky when gay/bi guys cross back into the straight world. I know that sounds bad, but gay sex carries way more risk, it's a fact, so obviously they are at higher risk of transmission.
I would probably check providers like that off my list for sure. Just to be clear, it has nothing to do with morals or ethics, it's 100% a risk assessment issue
Wow. This is super homophobic. As long as people are safe, risk is always mitigated. Let's not hate on people for their sexual preferences. We are supposed to be sex-positive here; not just sex positive until we are squicked out.
I love MMF/MFM sessions, but don't fit the profile asked for. Ice always assumed the difference between Gfe and pse to be anal, but could be wrong.
...for those who protect bi-sexual men. I didn't see any hate for sexual preference or homophobia in Desk's reply. On the contrary, he specifically made the point that he was not doing so. Our Chicago board used to be much more easy going without all the knee-jerk reactions.
I understand nobody knows me here personally, if they did they would realize I am not homophobic. In fact, I'm probably as far from that as you can be.
As to the facts. Every health department and virtually every doctor, as well as the CDC has set guidelines for "High Risk" groups when it comes to the transmission of HIV. Gay men and bi-men are considered high risk. Go look it up, I don't have time to do it here.
Just because I call something high risk doesn't mean I have moral, ethical, or personal feelings in a negative way about it. Skydiving is high risk, does that mean I am skydiver-phobic? If I am hiring a lawyer for a long court case and I find out he likes to skydive off of buildings, that's high risk and I may not want to have him involved in my legal team because he may not be around. That's just dealing with risk.
If I know a provider sees gay men, that puts her in a high risk category for HIV transmission (according to the CDC, not just me), so I choose to manage my risk by not seeing her. How is that homophobic
You're assuming that clients are actually telling providers their sexual orientations and histories, first off. I personally don't ask my clients about their sexual history; I'm safe in my service and therefore don't feel it's my business to ask. If I did, I'd offend a lot of people. I've never had a client ask in depth about my sexual history, and if one were to do so, I would shut it down.
While you're discussing high-risk behavior among men who engage in same-gender same-sex intercourse, your comment is queer/homophobic in nature because it's passing judgement on providers who may see men who don't identify as straight. It seems that you may be assuming that providers who do see non-straight identifying clients aren't as safe or as concerned about risk reduction. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Your comment also assumes that providers ask clients their sexual orientation.; a client could be seeing a non-straight identifying client and not even know it.
Of course it's your prerogative to see whoever you want. Just remember that a provider could have seen a non-straight identifying client and not have known it.
I suppose I was a bit harsh in my assessment before... But just keep the above in mind, perhaps?
What makes you assume that this community is just straight oriented in preference? Many of the ladies are bisexual, and most guys that are bisexual are still in the closet. For all any of these ladies know, they've been with many bi men and don't know it. Hence the need to be safe..... I'm not implying you're wrong about your safe practices, you have to do what you feel is right. IMHO this community is much safer that the plain street Hooker scene or in some instances... the bar scene
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