On the white listing thing, that was my own add-on and not directed at you at all. Since you were the OP any reply is going to seem to be directed at you, but I was just adding on to what you said. In my own terms I was trying to remark how some hobbyists are very hard graders compared to others, which you know already, and that means those reviews won't always look good from a numbers perspective. But the guys who've been around can key on the text instead of the numbers, since TER only lets guys who can read the full review see the numbers. Fake reviews are a whole different scenario that I wasn't trying to key on, but just mentioned in passing as veteran hobbyists easily filter those right out and don't give them credence.
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I know similar topics have been discussed on here before but for the benefit of the newbies on here that haven't had the benefit of reading it and for those who have forgotten or just missed out.....here it is again.
Reviews in this business play a huge role and yet we still have such a small percentage of reviews being written! here are just a short list of reasons that many guys give for why they don't write reviews....
1) She already has a lot of reviews and I really can't ad anything to what anybody else has said.
2) I don't have the time.
3) I prefer to remain anonymous.
4) She is new and I want to keep her to myself.
Let me respond to these one at a time.....
1) Regardless of how many reviews a girl has, a new review is important. When a girl goes for a period of time without a new review, guys tend to think there is something wrong with her. It is a noticable affect by the number of new client calls a girl gets. Also, when a girl gets consistent good marks and then suddenly gets a "less than" review, it is like she suddenly got the plague or something. Perfect example is Angel recently got a couple of reviews where she received 6's for performance and her "new client" calls fell off the charts. Forget the fact that the previous 30 reviews were almost all 8's and 9's.
2) I can understand this excuse if you don't utilize the review database to decide on the girl you are going to visit. However, barring that, you owe it to your fellow hobbiests who came before and the ones that are coming after you to give to the community!
3) If you are reading this, you have already broken a much anonymity as you would in writing a review.
4) This is a rediculous reason because if she is new to the business and she does not make enough money to stay in the business, you and everybody else will miss out!
There are many reasons to write reviews. The new girls need them to make enough to stick around and the girls that have been around for a while need them so that they don't appear to have the plague. So......Write Reviews!.... :-0))
I only have three reviews so far... I am starting to think almost no one writes them!!!
You have fabulous reviews that only match your great body. I wish my budget would allow for me to see you. I know it would be a mind blowing experience seeing you.
5) If you cant say something nice, you shouldn't say anything at all
Reviews in this business play a huge role and yet we still have such a small percentage of reviews being written! here are just a short list of reasons that many guys give for why they don't write reviews....
1) She already has a lot of reviews and I really can't ad anything to what anybody else has said.
2) I don't have the time.
3) I prefer to remain anonymous.
4) She is new and I want to keep her to myself.
Let me respond to these one at a time.....
1) Regardless of how many reviews a girl has, a new review is important. When a girl goes for a period of time without a new review, guys tend to think there is something wrong with her. It is a noticable affect by the number of new client calls a girl gets. Also, when a girl gets consistent good marks and then suddenly gets a "less than" review, it is like she suddenly got the plague or something. Perfect example is Angel recently got a couple of reviews where she received 6's for performance and her "new client" calls fell off the charts. Forget the fact that the previous 30 reviews were almost all 8's and 9's.
2) I can understand this excuse if you don't utilize the review database to decide on the girl you are going to visit. However, barring that, you owe it to your fellow hobbiests who came before and the ones that are coming after you to give to the community!
3) If you are reading this, you have already broken a much anonymity as you would in writing a review.
4) This is a rediculous reason because if she is new to the business and she does not make enough money to stay in the business, you and everybody else will miss out!
There are many reasons to write reviews. The new girls need them to make enough to stick around and the girls that have been around for a while need them so that they don't appear to have the plague. So......Write Reviews!.... :-0))
Your post is a good reminder of the importance of reviews, however reviews are a double-edged sword. Providers can't count on certain numbers, as all hobbyists are different and see things in their own way. So I guess the "be careful what you wish for" cliche comes into play. Established hobbyists can spot trends, or phony reviews pretty quickly.
IMHO...some providers need to be much, much more liberal with how many white listings they distribute. Writing a review is much harder than pushing that button to white list a client. If a client was not a black list candidate, then a white listing is in order. If a provider disagrees, then she shouldn't expect reviews either. Tit for tat...so to speak.
This post was not directed at a person like you. You have obviously done your part to give back to the community.
I am not sure about who your statements regarding being careful what you wish for and "fake reviews" is directed to but I have to presume, since we were the author of this thread, it was towards us. If not, please be more specific because otherwise you leave it up to interpretation. For the record, we are wishing for more reviews. Also, for the record, we have never written a bad review period. In fact, all the girls are aware that if they are caught writing a fake review or suspected of it, they are done with us. Once again, if you were not directing those statements towards us, please be more specific.
Finally, regarding "white listing", I cannot speak for everyone on here but 99.9% of the clients I screen are not providing us with their handle here on TER. Not necessarily because they won't but mainly because we don't ask for it. So, unless they ask us to white list them, we don't! And, for the longest time, we had no idea how to whitelist someone! So, if you have used our service and are in good standing, feel free tp PM or email us a request! That goes for everybody!
On the white listing thing, that was my own add-on and not directed at you at all. Since you were the OP any reply is going to seem to be directed at you, but I was just adding on to what you said. In my own terms I was trying to remark how some hobbyists are very hard graders compared to others, which you know already, and that means those reviews won't always look good from a numbers perspective. But the guys who've been around can key on the text instead of the numbers, since TER only lets guys who can read the full review see the numbers. Fake reviews are a whole different scenario that I wasn't trying to key on, but just mentioned in passing as veteran hobbyists easily filter those right out and don't give them credence.
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what you need to realize is that on our side of the fence, we are marketing to everyone including the newbies and the veterans. You are right in that there are guys that are just very dificult reviewers and will consistently give girls who normally score 7,8,9's scores of 5,6's. then there are the ones that are obviously writing reviews jist to get VIP status. Finally, there are the ones that I may have upset somehow (dont know how that could happen) and write a horrible review on a girl to get back at me!
Dont know what category he falls into but a guy recently wrote a review of Angel where he gave her an 8 for performance. But if you read it and even though he states at the end that he would definitely repeat as often as possible, after reading it, I would probably think twice about seeing her if she did not have like 60/70 reviews!
Perhaps a thread explaining to the new guys how to didtinguish the BS from the legitimate would be something informative for this forum. You or one or two of the veterans or ten or twenty could share the vast knowledge you have!
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if a provider is going to whitelist a client...he has to be seen by her more than once! If every girl WL a client she seen only once, how can it be accurate!
Everyone is always on their best behavior at first meetings.
TER does not allow agents to WL clients anymore and I think that is a bad move since clients use agencies more than once and we do get a feel of what type he man he is.
This is my opinion, so whats your thoughts on that? do you think is it ok to whitelist a guy you meet one time for an hour?
re reviews, if clients wrote the reviews that they promised to write, because many men promise to write the girl a review but never do.
They will take the time out and call and say how hot she is and how happy and great she made them feel and when I ask them to write a review they say I will I'd want to help her, she really deserves it but I don't see a review in 80% of the promises.
I could certainly see a provider white listing a client after one date. I say that because they can also remove those white listings if they see fit. A white listing is only supposed to be what I said in my first post. It isn't meant to be a gushing tribute, it is meant to be an 'ok' much like you see on P411. I do understand your point on the promises of reviews, I would say that only white list those who write fair reviews and did not cause trouble. If someone doesn't give you their handle, then it would be hard for you to white list them of course. Same goes for them that don't write a review. But the hobbyists who do take the time to write a review, a fair review, those guys should at least get a white listing for their trouble. Otherwise in a tit for tat scenario, you might be looking at a hobbyist saying that he won't review a provider after only one date. Afterall...things can change from one date to the next in either direction(meaning provider or hobbyist attitudes). I have experienced that myself more than once. I can see where you're coming from Traci, and hopefully you can see what I mean as well. Just my opinion ![]()
yes anyone can change in the blink of the eye and you and I have seen and experienced that!
I suppose looking at it as you do, W.L. a person then removing it if he turns bad would work but me personally I would not WL a person after 1 date but it doesn't matter because I am not allowed to wl anyone even if they used us 50 x's because I'm an agency and they are not allowed to whitelist.
I would definitely write a review on 1 of your girls. I have not had the pleasure of meeting any 1 of them yet. but will definitely write a review.