Why is it that a lot of providers will not see African-American hobbyist? Aside from the provider possibly being prejudice and/or a racist, because a lot of African-American providers won't see African-American hobbyist - so that's not an answer that's unacceptable. I've heard different reasons from different providers, but I'm curious as to what the general reasoning is behind this restriction.

Doesn't the lady have the right to choose who to see as clients?  You make it sound like they shouldn't.  Each lady has their own comfort level and if you don't like it, too fucking bad.  I'm not sure why certain ladies have restrictions, but it is on them.  

If the lady didn't have the right to choose, they might as well be sex slaves.

cuz your dick is too big

well I am caucasian, but I have been asked if I am black, and when I ask why I was asked,, I was told, by independent providers, because did not want to be recruited by a pimp.  

Just my limited experience.

That they don't treat women very well.  I personally have never had that happen(the roughest persons I have ever been with have been white or from India but only a tiny % of those) so really can't comment on what happened.  These were experiences I have heard from past GF's who didn't see black men.  One per day, where are you darling....  Face down, a** up, that's the way we like to fu**!!

I am a Caucasian person, as they define it. What I have been putting down on various forms under "race" for almost 40 years is "human," because scientifically and morally, that is what we all are. Making judgment solely on  the basis of skin color is about as stupid as discriminating against people because they are left handed, have green eyes, or prefer strawberry ice cream to chocolate (deluded as those who prefer strawberry are, don't get me wrong).

Jeffrey Dahlmer was white, so is Charlie Manson, and a whole bunch of serial killers who have murdered sex workers. It is one thing not to see a particular person because of their behavior or negative information you have about them from a reliable source. It is another to judge and exclude a person automatically on the basis of skin color. I don't want to live in a world where that happens.

I have therefore, in the past, declined to make appointments with providers who openly state that they absolutely refuse to see African-American men (or those of other races, but exclusion of African-Americans seems to happen most often).

I can't control what anyone else, provider or hobbiest, chooses to do individually, but I do have control over my own behavior, and if a provider excludes all of my African-American, Hispanic, Arab, Asian, or Native American brothers, they can exclude me too.

I'm a landlord of a small building, and I've rented to African-American families, interracial families, and people of a variety of races. The worst tenant I ever had was a white DePaul graduate student (you really don't want to hear the details, but it would make for a frightening screenplay). Yet everytime I rent to African-Americans, I've gotten bullshit from bigoted neighbors, who make it cloear that they don't approve, make harassing calls, etc.

I am sick of racist bigotry.

Thanks for saying this as it needed to be said

I couldn't agree more with your comments.

Unfortunately I will not live long enough to see racial hatred and bigotry not be a part of the fabric of this world.  But I would find it interesting to be able to come back in say, 1,000 years and see if humanity has made any progress towards "tolerance" of all hatred (racial, religious, sexual).

Good for you???

Every man, woman, hobbiest, provider...still has their choice of who they get horizontal with.  

there are too many other ladies who recognize this as a business who will...so if one lady will not see you based upon her own ignorance or the rules her pimp has set for her....FUCK HER AND FUCK HIM TOOOOOO (Celo Green)....go find someone who will see you and don't sweat a dumb ass fucktard.

This is a topic that defies logic. Ladies wont see brothers because they don't want to...and too bad so sad.

I enjoy seeing people who are clean, ready to play, able to play, respectful, and don't give me a drama. Culture, race, age, socioeconomic status... ect has NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

People are generally under the assumption that all black men have____________ or all black men are__________.....the only thing all black men are........is genetically BLACK.....as a culture black people are as diverse as any other American group.

Your money is good with tons of ladies.....if a woman will not see you based on your race.....keep it moving and go see one of the many quality ladies in Chicago who will greet you with open legs.


...and the big dick myth is A MYTH TO THE MORON WHO SAID THAT!!!!

I am very interested in knowing how you know so much about ANOTHER MANS DICK?

This has nothing to about being a racist.  How ridiculous.

Maybe a girl just doesn't like sleeping with black guys.  Maybe for another its an Indian guy, or an asian.

If you're a black guy and the girl says no, move on and ask someone else who will say yes.  This is NOT the same as a business owner only serving white people.   The business owner isn't fucking you, the girl is, and to assume an escort should let anyone in the world fuck her just because she's in the business of being an escort is just plain stupid.

On the other hand, when a guy picks a girl to see, does he not choose someone on how they look or act?  Or do you just go to a site and start at the top?  

Kudos to the girls who choose to see anyone, and I likewise respect the decisions of those who choose to be selective.  Either way, let's stop the BS race card every time something comes up..  You're getting laid, not buying a car.

I am a white female, and My ex Maddam used to talk shit when any Black American potential client would inquire after me...
It always upset me that she reacted in such a way.

She had been in the business almost 20years, and said that via her experience black hobbyists or clients were generally looking for a less expensive experience, and often times more likely to flake-out on appointments.

I have heard similar stories via other providers, which sounds a little bit like old-timey prejudices to me.
IN MY EXPERIENCE I have always had very good experiences with Black American hobbyists, I also have a bit of a thing for the brothers tho!

Ummm.. ummm... grabbing my hitachi... where do I sign up for THAT roleplay! keep TALKING.. this wont take LONG! There WILL be clanky metal chains tho I hope??

I take her comment to mean, "ignore that "Jane" (ignorant slut), and move on to the next hottie with an open mind, open legs and an open mouth.

I agree. Ladies can see whomever they would like to please (or not). If a lady can't get past my hairy, pasty white butt enough to give me 100% then she should tell me before taking my (green) donation.

Oh stop it....There is no where in my post where I said the ladies do not have a choice.

We do have choices.......and I am supportive of everyone having the freedom of choice....just like I am supportive of the OP making a choice to go spend his money elsewhere.

However, I humbly submit to you these two facts:

1. I have never heard of a providers "choice" to say: I don't see white men.....which leads me to my second point.

2. Had the OP been............an extremely wealthy African American entertainment/sports/ or any other media celebrity.......he would have ZERO issues seeing anyone regardless of her "I don't see black men" claim.


It is what it is...........

From black providers who say no BM: they want to avoid as many thugs as possible, when they have or have heard of a provider being robbed or got violent it was a BM who did it.

Non-black providers: Dicks too big and/or they f*uck to rough.

Of course I disagree because for every story or bad encounter i've had w/ a BM  I've had it w/ a WM or Hispanic male etc

Dicks i've seen enough of them and for every BBD (big black dick) i've seen a BWD , same with the little ones.  

Only thing I can think of, is maybe the provider had a bad experience with a black guy.

*nods* if it is racism.....in the end what speaks the LOUDEST is GREEN (money) hahaha.

girls do have choice. however, most girls with these restrictions have based them on stereo types of men of that ethnicity they choose not to see. I am an african american make who has seen girls worth these restrictions. I am not the type of man they choose not to see. so they will arrange appointments with me. I have also had an african american scheduler let me know that the lady she works for would have cancelled th we appointment on my arrival had she not recognized in my vb voice that I was african american.  

I do not get upset when I see the warnings posted. if I  really want to see the lady, I give her the benefit off the fought that she really doesnt want to see african americans that I wouldnt want too hang outwith. but, sometimes its simply racism. although the lady does have choice. I trust we all believe stereotypes are wrong and most of us believe racism is extremly wrong.  I believe  very few of these ladies have these restrictions simply because they find african american men unattractive.

I have NEVER had a problem with seeing any hobbyist of any race as long as he passes my screening and is respectable which is what I expect out of anybody.  Of course its every womans choice, but I personally do not understand it but oh well.  

I look forward to seeing any respectable gentleman as I appreciate your interest in me.  

Yay We'll have to talk

don't discount smell.

I am not suggesting that Black people as a race smell bad, just  different.

Personal aroma is more important thant people choose to admit.  I have been with Caucasian women who smell "Just right" and turn me on just by nuzzling my face in their neck and breathing deeply. Some caucasian women smell bad to me even when they are wearing quality perfume. Others are less than clean.

Asian women tend to have little or no personal aroma, but in certain cases I find there are undelying pheremones that get the job done.

Women of Color tend to have a muskier aroma (and I would guess the men do too), that I find pleasant but I'm sure that some women may not like. Don't discount the possibility that a provider doesn't like the way you smell and she is avoiding dates that potentially have no chemistry for her.

Again, this is not about clenliness or perfume or deoderant, it's about that underlying personal smell
that none of us can really control.

On a different note. If a woman deosn't want to see you based on your race wouldn't you rather know upfront? The alternative is a less than first rate session for you and no real explanation.

I can't agree with you more.....as a matter of fact...........the time the OP took to write his gripe could have been time better allocated searching for another provider.

and we know what that makes you.

Rolls eyes...........I could list some sights and smells during sessions that were NIGHTMARISH!

So here is some enlightenment for you.........

Not all of any group or race of people smell like anything uniform....or specific to that race or group of people.

Outside of flat out not washing their ass.....how a person smells is directly caused by what they eat, and their overall health.

Anyone who eats everything smothered in garlic is going to smell like garlic.......anyone who drinks coffee all day is not going to have pleasant bo......anyone who does not have healthy working internal plumbing.....as in every time they eat they shit....and people who have no clue how their digestive system is supposed to work or how to get it to work as nature intended.....IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SMELL TO THEM. That has nothing to do with race or culture that has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH GETTING IT TO THE GYM AND NOT LIVING ON MEAT AND POTATOS.

Maybe  their pimps have a problem with them seeing black men. It would be nice if there was a list or the women are up front stating they don't see black men. I would respect that.

Posted By: tiacarter

I have NEVER had a problem with seeing any hobbyist of any race as long as he passes my screening and is respectable which is what I expect out of anybody.  Of course its every womans choice, but I personally do not understand it but oh well.  

I look forward to seeing any respectable gentleman as I appreciate your interest in me.  

Posted By: blackking60626

Why is it that a lot of providers will not see African-American hobbyist? Aside from the provider possibly being prejudice and/or a racist, because a lot of African-American providers won't see African-American hobbyist - so that's not an answer that's unacceptable. I've heard different reasons from different providers, but I'm curious as to what the general reasoning is behind this restriction.

Thank you so much for your well thought out and measured response to an honest opinion. I guess that personal experience is nothing compared to anothers scientific fact not in evidence.

I find that all I can say at this point is "I shall pray for you"

Your a consumer and they are providers. If they are put it out there that they don't want to do "business" with blacks, then take your business elsewhere. That's what I've done over the years. Whether it's a major retailer, firm, etc, If they dont respect your and your spending power, then go to someone who does. Dont get upset about it. Just "Boycott Sal's"   lol.

Ooo! I hope I know where the conversation will lead to!
be a darlin, send me an email, hmm??

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LMFBAO @ Hardwood469   LOL

My statement was not made to change any ladies choice. It was merely to demonstrate that for many ladies with these restrictions, the decision does spring from racism.  For me, I always move on.  If a woman doesn't want to see me.  I don't want to waste my time.

Also, just because an African American questions whether something is racism doesn't mean he / she is waving the "BS race card"

n my problem wth sum of the men of my race ,(just to name a few) is they always try to get u to lower ur prices.n they need to learn how to talk providers.