Client screening in Chicago seems more strict than other cities. Been using P411 for the last few years and it's always worked great with my profile and 10+ ok's from known providers but it doesn't seem good enough here. Is this market more dangerous so quality providers are extra cautious????

First try, provider requires full name. Surprised, I didn't send it in the email with other info but would disclose over the phone. She thought I was being difficult so we moved on. Next try, same thing but this time I just sent full name so screening continues. 4 days later/ day of date - nothing.  

Concerned about what's coming up in a search, I google my name with city/state and I also pay for "instant checkmate" - no arrests, no warrants, or even traffic violations (accurate). No red flags. Could I be blacklisted or have non-supportive references?? I always treated ladies with great respect and generosity (longer dates, gifts, even trips).

Also seems if doing a 4+ hour date, they could always leave if not comfortable during dinner and not go back to my hotel. It's hard to take a chance on strike 3 now and may just go to the ballpark instead then sadly back to the hotel with Mr. Hand. Maybe Eeyore will join me if his screening isn't too harsh. Is this common here

...and different providers ask for different things.

P411 has been compromised in the past, which is why most providers require additional info on top of P411 oks. Rs2k is the provider preferred method of screening, but that requires a full name and is not anonymous.

Not to mention LE is super active right now.

If a dude doesn't want to give me the info I ask for, cool. Just move on.  

I offer various methods for screening, for sure, and have been told my screening is fairly painless

Expect a food thread or someone asking for the best areas to stay post soon.

From a visitor's point of view Chicago seems different - Bring your own date or provide a credit report if full name and references won't do. It was a good exercise in knowing about my public information. Sorry to waste board space...

...i was under the impression that you DID NOT want to provide your full name, and were looking for providers that don't require one.

Now I'm just confused.  Full name and references that check out? Should be no problem.  But again, every lady requires different information.

If you hadn't posted under an alias, I'd have pm'd you this message.

Hover your mouse over the alias and it will change to underlined characters.  Click on it and it pops up a PM window.

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Many of them seem to have put their civility on the sidelines while playing their running game of who's the biggest asshole.

The short answer to your question is that yes, Chicago is quite a bit different from other areas. To get a leg up on some of the political foundations, start by googling "Tom Dart" and "Craigslist." It goes downhill from there.

Yes, different ladies do tend to have different screening requirements. And, it's also worth understanding that she may ask for more than whatever basic options are listed on her website, at any time, for any reason. Additionally, ladies do sometimes go AWOL from their email for a variety both legitimate and not-so-legitimate reasons. Granted, ladies tend to have a good heads up on when they will be disappearing (trips with gentlemen, visiting family, etc) and should be informing anyone they are in mid-correspondence with, but once in a blue moon, those disappearances aren't planned, and cannot be avoided.

My advice is to read both the words and the "vibe" of a potential companion very carefully-her ad, her, website, and her emails. Also read her reviews to see how other gentlemen talk about her; you often don't even need to read past the general section of a review to get a sense of a woman. Then reach out to those who seem to have their head square on their shoulders, and that act like the responsible adult you'd feel comfortable sharing any part of your information with (P411 or more). It's that simple.

Best of luck!
~E

...that there was a biggest asshole competition going on right now. I think CTP has that one on lock, though.

I didn't think i was being an asshole; I thought I was telling the truth in a succinct way.  

I might be a smart-ass, but generally my smart-assedness comes from a genuinely good place.  

What Eve offered is pretty accurate as far as screening and hobby history in Chicago

in which I talked on the phone to both but they both(out of towners) balked at giving me their last name even going so far as 1 to hang up on me when I asked for it and was steadfast(politely decline and move on don't hang up on me for goodness sake) 2 to say they had no idea why i would even ask for that information.  Sorry guys I have additional info I check for not just relying on references only or any form of screening on it's own.  Chicago is a hard screening area

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The 50 states... Chicago providers screening isn't any different then anywhere else.... I think it depends on the providers screening method... Most providers touring in chicago should screen very well with the recent stings & arrests...  

You as a hobbyists: have white listings, p411 okays, have a history of your hobby activities, multiple memberships on hobby sites, references... you shouldn't have a problem with screening to set up Playtime with a provider..

that my screening techniques are plainly written on my website.
If I ask for full name, and you're not willing to provide full name, then you should not contact me.
I thought you seemed like a nice guy, with great references, but I couldn't allow what you immediately wanted.
In addition, your email in response to my request started with questioning whether Delight was my last name.  You lost me there entirely.
It was also not clear that you would provide your full name over the phone.  That would've been fine.
I can't speak for other cities, but most of us here do require a positive identity.
I have more to lose than my information...and my life means more than that.
Each of us come to this with an idea of what we are willing to risk.
Maybe consider a direct approach without any games next time and I'll bet you'll find a great date.
Chicago ladies are some of the finest!
XO's

Why get all butt hurt over one reply from a provider? You're using an alias for Pete's sake. That's like having an extra set of balls and a free pass to spank her bottom real good. So do it! LOL.

Please know I was not going to mention any specifics about who in this post. I'm sure you're a great lady but we just got off on the wrong foot and I'll share some blame.  

I guess there's an expectation that if a provider advertises on P411 then they are comfortable using it as a verification service solely. I now know this to be false in some cases. Might be good practice for providers to mention something on their p411 profile. Seem "preferred 411" is not the case for many here.  

The resulting point of this thread is: For guys coming to Chicago, be prepared for full disclosure so ladies feel safe. For providers, please understand this maybe a different experience the clients (especially P411) are used to so there maybe some reservation at first.

Thanks for the education!

(Let me preface this by saying that I'm not based in Chicago, but I visit there frequently and my screening requirements are the same whether I'm home or staying in your fabulous city )

While P411 is an excellent tool to help with the screening process, it is most certainly not the only tool. Some ladies are perfectly fine with accepting it as a sole screening method, while some of us (myself included) require certain supplementary information (such as a full name, etc). The reason why is because screening sites (P411, Date-Check, etc) have been vulnerable to many undesirables using the services for nefarious purposes. There have been multiple instances of LE infiltrations, guys sharing handles, using it to dodge previous blacklist issues, etc. Furthermore, a P411 handle (even with a thousand Okays) is not going to show up on the sex offender registry.  

For those of us who don't rely on third-party screening (for me, it's just because I only trust myself to ensure my own safety), it's simply because we want to make sure that the person we will be meeting with is whom they claim to be, and will not put us in any danger legally, physically, or otherwise. There are many of us who are extremely diligent in our screening (and that's not limited to Chicago), while there are others whose verification requirements are much less strict. If you are not comfortable providing the information that a lady requires, just move on.  

Well said!  I just use my real info.  It is easier and like the Delight said...she has as much or more to lose than you.

Always good to be able to scratch another off the 'to do list' or in your case replace her with you!

...insults are much more acceptable when given from a real handle, not an alias. Please, feel free to insult me after I playfully explain myself after Eve called me out for what could have been perceived as asshole behavior.  

Just do it openly and honestly.