So, I have just recently moved back to Chicago and am looking to get back into the hobby.  I have been TER Whitelisted and have a couple Minnesota references but seems to me like no Agency and most independent girls want more than Whitelist.  Is it just me or are things more strict in chicago?  In MN if I told somebody I was TER Whitelisted that was good enough but not here.  Some agencies want to me text them pictures of my ID and business card.  This seems a little over kill to me but I guess I'm just not willing to send that kind of info. Any suggestions?

Ladies/agencies asking for pics of your ID and business card should be avoided in my opinion. Why not simply supply provider references or join P411?

I have supplied provider references then they still want ID and stuff.  I'm guessing I do need to join p411

I'm not sure why... But last time I asked about giving a whitelist I wasent allowed because I have a 'agency' acct.  

No reflection on our local providers or agencies but you need to draw a firm line regarding what you're willing to give up. P411 is your best option for ease of verification and you don't necessarily have to give up your real info. Stay away from RS2K, they demand your real info.

As I have said before, when (not if, WHEN) and agency gets raided and your ID is on their hard drive or in a file cabinet (true story, saw it happen to coworker) you are hit.

What could they possibly prove?  

Listen to these guys above.  Never do rs2k.  Never give any agency or escort your real name/address/phone/anything really.  You are dealing with strangers who you likely should not trust.  If you are willing to risk your reputation and your family's, then go for it.  Otherwise, stick to ter and p411.  Plenty of ladies will see you

Never, ever send a picture of your ID and/or a paycheck stub to a provider or agency. Did I say never, ever??

Most agencies demand work verification, a lot of independent high end providers do also.  Now I belong to RS2K, 411, and DC and have been a member of TER for a more than a few days.  Are you saying that I should delete my accounts with these verification sites, and just forget about seeing high end providers or is there some secret handshake that I need to learn to see them.

its game over, even if they can't prosecute you. You will be treated like garbage by civil society.

They had informants bust several girls, the girls have up the agency, the agency was searched and they went after a dozen clients in order to sweat them to cooperate against the agency.   It evidentially worked because the agency "owners" or whatever were prosecuted.  The guy DID lose his job and govt clearance over this very quickly.  

First of all, having your name on a rs2k list means nothing.  Secondly, Kathy has been keeping lists for close to or over 30 years now without a single glich.  Finally, if (and it will never ever....did I say never ever happen) the police were to confront you about your name being on theirs or any other list....simply claim identity theft and if your job tries.to punishyou, gey a good lawyer and thank them foe an early.retirement bonus!  End of story.  But like I said, it will never ever happen nor has it!!

If you had my name you can find my work info and a picture from Linked In.
My address is available from any number of places.
Phone number is my throw away phone.

ladies who screen dont want drama or problem clients and avoid them like the plague!  
IN MY OPINION - it is risky to see anyone who doesn't screen. The more difficult one
makes it for u to see them the more likely they dont wish u harm.  Makes sense....

I think the conversation would go like this: Officer: "We found your client's name on a list from an escort agency." It says that he saw Brenda TightSnatch on xxxx date.  

Not sure about that.  In other areas (Washington DC and New York State come to mind) LE has subpoenaed the mailing list and leaked it to the press.  The client can holler all he wants about identity theft, but guess what: everybody else will be saying their identity was stolen too.

I love the humor of, "dealing with strangers who likely should not trust," but yet your calling for "Hobbying." So you trust them enough for what that entitles?

considering how hot LE is out there.  If you were to offer that hot ass of yours for some pokin to $$ what info would you need to make sure there was not blow back on you and your family?  Le have and do use employment verification with local area businesses to get in and bust providers.  There are also providers who whitelist or give P411 ok's to whoever because they honestly can't remember who they have seen and freely admit to it in other avenues.  Nothing is fool proof 100%.  But ask yourself how much you would need to offer it up for cash knowing all of the things we do including that fact we(providers in general) are more likely to be robbed, beaten, or even killed by our potential guests then you are by any lady listed here with a history and reviews to prove herself.

Of course many ladies what guys that they can verify and of course many guys want to remain anonymous.

Would you be willing to share your real name and the city you live with a hobbyist? I guess not then why do you expect us to.

Screening is not the issue. It is how intrusive is acceptable. If you don't share real life info why should the guys.

Find someone who meets your comfort level. If a lady doesn't screen enough, find someone who screens harder. If she screens too much for you, find someone who doesn't.

well said

WARNING: I AM ON A TEAR THIS MORNING!!!!

You just need one out of tons of ladies to screw your life. Even her jealous BF can do that. There are several cases of guys being screwed over by ladies after getting personal info.
BTW I have been a long time RS member, but never share that info any more. Over and out.

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I'm one of the girls who require names, etc. If a guy can't give that to me, it's ok. He can see someone else. No sweat.

What a stupid thread.  Am I actually reading that the sellers are making demands on what the customers have to do?  Excuse me, but no.  If the customers walk, what are you lovely ladies going to do?  Get a real job?  We can go to a variety of sugar baby sites, AMPs, civvy ladies, porn, etc.   What are yall about to do?  Strip for $400 an hour?  

1. Generally speaking do most of the ladies respond when they are listed as a reference?
2. I always give the lady my TER name...do you read the reviews made by the client?
3. On the "first date" do you ask to see I.D

Absolutely to Question 1 and 3.  Possibly to 2 if my VIP membership is updated.......

It just is not worth the risk.  The term..."keep honest people honest" comes to mind.  If a guy is in a room with a lady and suddenly feels a little mischievous knowing he can't be identified, he is more likely to do something stupid.the only way I will ever consider a p411 or whitelist is if it is an out call to his home or 3 star hotel or above.It is like playing Russian roulette.You could spin the chamber 50 times and then once hit the bullet and its over....too late!

Used RS to schedule. When I arrived she checked my ID for a few minutes and then called you and said something about my address over the phone. My obvious inference was that you had my address from the googling my RS info. Very very scary.

And yes, you're the customer! So go be a customer to girls who will listen to your shitty attitude, pay them and stfu already lol! Jesus!

It's very scary, and kind of gross seeing and hearing the sick, twisted pleasure the guy gets from it. It shows the human soul a little too much.

Lots of providers monitor posts there and willingly give a helping hand.

Such an easy and simple solution Courtney. Not sure why this is always such an issue on ALL of the boards ALL of the time

Am truly offended at guys who try to give suggestions about how to run MY business.
It is my creation.  You are in MY world now and that means you play by MY rules...or else I am not gonna play.  
Each of us ladies is the boss and the CEO, so to speak, of our own business. Some of us have had bad experiences and you guys don't know the situation so it's no one else's place to tell us how to do shit!  No man and no other woman makes my decisions for me, but ME and that includes screening.  
Now let's all lighten up and have a lovely day, lol

Open up! Open up!! The customer is always right! Lol! Lol!

Mostly an issue on the Chicago board, since it's predominantly used in Chicago. Seriously. Every two weeks. Ugh lol

Speaking for myself.. Whitelist mean nothing to me because "good guys" can get crazy or mean at any point with that being said. I always ask for the full name of person and that is for my comfort level. I always want to know who Im dealing with. If the gentlemen does not feel comfortable giving that info then I respect that and wish him luck. I believe its a mutual compromise/respect that one should meet me in the middle and would like to meet individuals who are like minded. Otherwise we prob would not be a match anyway.

I know this one chick who didn't screen I got to her place and she wasn't the one I saw in the ad. She ripped me off but I wanted to see her anyway. I do think screening is a sign that they are authentic.

I have avoided everything you mentioned due to the fact that I know every one of my clients

That's because so many get scared by their tactics and fold, and forget the number 1 rule...STFU.  

So much yes!
This should be like duhhhhh right but .... lol

So should all girls provide their real names.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I, and all the other smart hobbyists out there, are going to go give our money and gifts to top quality talent that does not care about real names but only that we treat ladies well.  Ciao.

RS2K verified.  

You know the name on our site. If thats not good enough. Keep it moving..

How much more real life information do you need?  

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and P 411 will definitely make your life much easier where it comes to screening.

My advice is that if your life would be ruined by getting fired, divorced, disowned by family, etc if your whore mongering was to be made public, then do NOT give out your personal information to any agency or hooker.

The odds are not great of anything like this happening, but your odds aren't high that you are going to get in a car wreck today, but I bet you still wear your seatbelt. The potential damage for many of you guys is simply to great to take even a small risk IMO.

but I am the exception, and for most guys the very act of being questioned is where the real damage comes in. A misdemeanor conviction for solicitation is hardly as life altering as getting divorced, fired, etc once it becomes known that the average guy is a whoremonger.

That said, I am SO happy that the world already knows I am a whore mongering pig. That means no one can do so much as even embarrass me, well maybe if someone has evidence that I fucked a fat ugly chick, I would be a bit embarrassed, but that's the extent of it. lol

There are a few providers that hang out on the newbie board to indoctrinate the newbs into acting against their own self interest. Fortunately there are several guys that also monitor that board, myself included, to make sure the newbs get the straight scoop, and one of those things we look out for is to remind the newbs of the danger of giving out their personal info.

I don't tell anyone whether or not to give out their info, and I have no issue in giving out my own, but there is most definitely a risk in doing so, and despite all the hookers claims to the contrary, you can see hundreds of different ladies, quality ladies at that, without ever having to give out any information about yourself that you don't feel comfortable about.