I'll begin by qualifying this whole post promising that I really, truly, am not expecting any providers here to even consider doing this with me on this particular trip. I merely want to get some thoughts on this idea and *maybe* ask for tips as to how I might propose this elsewhere, in some sort of freestyle way or even to an SA girl.

I've been super busy with work and never bothered using my Hilton certificate (2 free weekend nights at ANY Hilton property in the world). Now, it's set to expire within a month. I was going to use it on the resort in the Maldives. My SO can't go. I've asked like 10+ friends (male and female), family members, and acquaintances, and nobody can take off work. I *could* go alone, but I'd rather not to the point where I'd be happy to cover all of a platonic friend's flight, food, entertainment etc expenses to go with me.

So of course the light bulb in my head said "What if a provider would come just for the travel? After I book a regular session with her or two to see if we get along?" Although my logical brain is almost 100% convinced no lady would go for it. EVEN if the whole thing is truly and wholly platonic, it's still the time that matters, and for this amount of time on a trip ladies would generally expect $10K+ or something from a gentleman.

Another kicker is that I'd be booking all flights with miles, meaning that first and last names would be revealed. D'oh.

Heck, any hobbyists here who might want to hop on a plane with this idiot? I might be a bunch younger than most of you, but if we're both here we at least have *one* thing in common.

Places I had in mind were Maldives, Ibiza, Tokyo, Amsterdam, hell even Hawaii.

Also, to address one possible reaction: I can already see providers reading this, thinking, "So he claims he *just* wants a platonic travel buddy, yet he's hoping it's going to be an attractive woman? Riiiiight..." To which I say, yeah I know it sounds like bullshit, but idk, I am a man, and yes we are pigs. Even among platonic friendships, I'm more likely to develop one with an attractive female rather than a less attractive one, even if I'm not trying to bang her at all. I can't really explain why. Maybe it's a status/pride thing, maybe it's thinking cute girls are more likely to have cute friends to hook up with, or maybe it's just that I like talking to a pretty face. Idk. All of my platonic female friends are considered attractive, and I've had a harder time befriending "less attractive" females unless we get along REALLY well.

So yeah idk. Unless I find a girl on SA like *tomorrow* and hit it off with her REALLY well, I'll probably just end up going somewhere alone. Or having a totally lame staycation at an unnecessarily luxurious Hilton property here with my SO/other friend.

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You have stranger danger written all over you.

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depending on how much she charges.  

What you are essentially asking the lady to do is not only go on a trip and spend time with someone she barely knows, but you are also asking her to leave opportunity for income that week by taking a vacation.

It's not responsible to leave work for a week every time someone offers a free vacation. And is it a vacation if she is emotionally supporting you throughout the week?

Another question to ask yourself is this. You are asking a sex worker to go along with you for a week - no sex. I don't know about anybody else, but being with a man for an entire week with no sex would be torture for me. And I don't "play" outside of P4P. So I personally would have a dilemma.

I've been offered free vacations even without the gentlemen. They say "I would like you to go here or there, because you need time away from work." BITCH! Who asked you to tell me where and when I need to take a vacation? lol!!

 
Just some things to think about - also - it's tax time is approaching, and a lot of ladies are hustling to prepare for that. A week "off" is going to affect the bank account.

When I think of a week away, especially pre-planned, I'm counting how much money I am not going to make. I see the person asking me as a cost - a dock in my pay. Someone who is taking food from my mouth, not paying for a free trip or free meals. Those are very expensive "free" meals. And that's a very expensive "free" trip. In essence, I'm paying the person I"m going on the trip from, they're not giving me anything - even though extra money is coming from their pocket for my expenses. (Which might result in last minute subway trips and $2 meal pancake houses. No thanks.)

Another thing to think about is emergencies. If you are taking a lady away for a week, do you have enough funds to pay those hidden expenses where emergencies happen? I assume you plan to keep her extremely comfortable on your trip.

I think you are taking a shot in the dark with this kind of a request. You are asking a lot. You are also risking that later she will realize she lost money on it, and might be pissed at you.

In order to pull this off, you will have to manipulate someone who is naive, and that does happen. It's very sad. You are looking in the wrong crowd for this. You're asking women to take a week vacation unpaid. Not good.

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Much appreciated.  

To clarify, it wouldn't be a week, it would be 4 days at most, as I'm literally going to fly out, do my two nights, and then come back home.  

But I understand your point remains the same. And pretty much the same as why almost everyone in my normal life can't go - they can't take the days off work.  

Although this is an alias, I still do feel the need to refute my question here being predatory in nature though, when you mention the only ladies considering this one are naive.  

I can't speak for ladies of course, but 4 days doesn't seem an unreasonable span of time for not having any bookings or just for taking a break. I mean, some ladies don't even work on their periods, and that's a whole 5 days on average. Was sort of wondering out loud if anyone might have a genuine interest in some of these destinations...to where they would have already wanted to go in the first place.  

I guess the ideal situation in my head was like an SA girl who's known nothing but poverty and might not have even gotten on a plane before.  

I do realize I look like an idiot asking about SA stuff here. It's just that since I have just a couple years of experience in this world and not with that one, I thought people chiming in here would be easier for me to contextualize.  

But yeah, point taken, and I really do appreciate the time you put into sharing this, I wouldn't expect any "premium"-priced ladies to even consider it, knowing, a small I mentioned in OP, that for this amount of time you'd usually get like 10-20k.

The "serious" in my title refers to being serious about the platonic part, not the earnest seriousness of the request....

I would NEVER contact a lady and just drop something like this on her.  

I'm mostly wondering aloud here and seeing if anyone has an idea or two I didn't think of about what I could do. I've NEVER asked someone for OTC time before. Was thinking more along the line s of, "Hey I get a chance to stay in one of the best Hilton properties in the world. Why waste it on just myself if I somehow manage to find someone to also enjoy it if they happen to get along with me?"

Some lady might be more open to the arrangement you are seeking

but you really should have started looking a lot earlier, getting a girl from SA to drop everything to run off with you on a moments notice is still "possible" but the less the notice, the less likely you are to find some SB to join you.

BTW your chances of finding a hooker to join you under the terms and conditions you have laid out are almost nonexistent. Your chances are MUCH better with an SB

I think this will be tough to make happen for the reasons already mentioned. I've only traveled with one provider and I've known her for a number of years. There were times when she said there was no fee involved but that's only because we had a long, fun relationship. I don't like the idea of traveling with someone I don't know. I don't see it as a relaxing time at all. Personally, I would go to Paris by myself.

I miss having the time to travel solo, highly recommend to anyone who has not.  Your on your own clock, your own plan or just daydream in the Luxembourg Gardens or Giverney.  Have a fun adventure whatever you choose you only live this life once!
Xoxo  
Alyssa

SA - i.e. a Sugar Baby who isn't traveling is an entirely different story.  

Finding a woman here, well, yes, she would be naive to accept it if she barely knows you - also, that's a lot of pressure on you to establish that kind of a trust and connection. Where there's pressure to establish a connection to get someone to take time off of work like that with you - there likely won't be a connection. It's "out of the blue". At least here. I just don't see it happening UNLESS you predatorily find someone naive and start manipulating them.

For the record, I am not saying YOU are that person. I'm saying that is what it would probably take, and that never ends well.

Definitely try the SB thing.

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LOL  

you hit the nail on the head when you said this:
"EVEN if the whole thing is truly and wholly platonic, it's still the time that matters, and for this amount of time on a trip ladies would generally expect $10K+ or something from a gentleman."

ding ding ding! it's all about the TIME.  just so i understand, you want a provider to join u  for 4 days and the ONLY thing you're paying for  flight, food, entertainment expenses? what about her time? everyone seems to forget that you are compensating a provider for her TIME... not activities. you asked what about when she's home on her period, well then she's doing her own thing (website updates, blogs, pictures, booking future appt., cleaning the house etc, or just relaxing) not providing YOU company, emotional support and stroking your ego.  

you are essentially asking for a discount by keeping it platonic. you remind me of this guy that wanted a discount for daty. (link below)
you need to compensate someone for their time  and if you want to keep that time platonic, then that's your prerogative.  

https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=211246&boardID=10&page=#211246

your chances are much better (IMO) with seekingarrangement dot com and/or sugardaddie dot com

let me put it another way... let's say i post an ISO on  here saying hey, let's meet that that fancy expensive new lounge for a few drinks for a couple  hours. drink are on me  (cuz i'm a baller) but that's it. no compensation for your time getting ready, traveling to meet, and sitting and listening to me talk about how much of a big shot i am at work.  i'd expect zero replies and possibly a couple of b-slaps .  

remember, these chicks don't "want" to hang out with you, they are "willing" to hang out with you if you make it worth their while. you girlfriend wants to hang out with you which is why she will make a better travel companion than a stranger you find here. people forget that this is a business for most ladies, not a "hobby".  

time is money and nothing is free. the "free nights" you are offering to a provider or even to one of your buddies isn't really free. the cost is what he/she could be doing instead of hanging with you.  this is the basic economic principle behind the saying "there's not such thing as a free lunch." pretty much any economist will tell you the same. google it yourself.  

i think the only way a provider would be willing to do what you are offering is if she is an ATF that you have been seeing for months and have developed a good rapport with each other.  if you've developed a friendship and you mutually respect and trust each other then MAYBE she would be jump at this opportunity. otherwise, making such an offer to a stranger on here is a real long shot.  

look, I'm not trying to bust your balls too much. after all, those cities you mentioned sound cool and  the idea sounds ok  "on paper" but  i'm just being realistic here. but hey, prove me wrong and report back here after you return, maybe write a review LOL

My best vacations have been alone.  New Orleans, with an overnight in Memphis. Met two ladies in the Quarter and one invited me to join them on the swamp tour, and the other said, "I think he CHOOSES to be alone" lol. After leaving family in Rome, alone for a few nights in Amsterdam. Only lonely trip alone was Toronto,everyone seemed to keep to themselves.   But try it,you may just like it, and pick up a copy of "How to be Your Own Best Friend." And as a male don't be looking to have sex every three hours, enjoy the vacation for what  it is, and things usually fall into place.

I totally feel you. I'm actually the guy who usually does almost everything solo. Maybe it's because I've been by myself unbearably much in the last 3 months, but for some reason this trip I'm just really feeling like not doing the solo thing.

For anyone interested, I'm talking to a few different SB's who seem to be interested. Have yet to meet them though, so that will have to get sorted out very fast.

Thank you, I really appreciate that. It really means something to me for you to take the time to clarify that (dammit why am I getting so sensitive all of a sudden!)