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X123456 2115 reads
posted
1 / 51

Today I saw a provider in Chicago who has about a dozen very good reviews (mostly 8+). The experience went from pretty good to bizarre (see below). But given her past glowing reviews, should I give her the benefit of doubt or write a review for her? I am also a bit scared of pissing her off because she has too much info about me. What should I do (hence my alias)? See below for details.

She has good reviews from some of the known members of this community, hence I decided to see her. It all started well enough - the emails, the phone calls, the first 20 minutes of the meeting - consistent with her reviews and my expectations. 20 minutes into the date, she seemed to be asleep (I hope I am not that boring!). I woke her up and she apologized, said something about how her cousin who's a cop will make sure everything was ok, went to the bathroom and did not come out for at least 20 mins. Since she took her phone with her to the bathroom, I am not sure if she was calling other customers or her cousin cop. She comes out, gives me a deep kiss and then we start going again, when she says that she just remembered that some of her friends were coming to visit her, so she needs to go down, talk to them and send them away, "dont go anywhere, sweetie, I'll be right back". She dresses up, asks me to button her dress, leaves with a DFK. I start wondering what if she comes back with cops, so I fully dress up, remove all incriminating evidence (including the donation that I had left on the mantel which she hadn't opened, the half used condom - what if there's DNA evidence?); I did not quite want to leave because she practices from her pretty upscale apartment and her complex has only one elevator and I did not want to bump into her with her cop cousin. She comes back, apologizes, gives me a deep kiss, asks "why are you dressed honey, I'll make it for you, dont worry about time", removes her clothes, opens my fly, starts a superb BJ"; Just as I am thinking that everything is OK, she asks, "what's your name again? My name is .... " (which is different from her stage name, so I assume that's her real name), extends her hand to shake mine; Amusing in retrospect - you are introducing yourself formally to a girl while she's giving you a bj - that's when I realized that I am probably dealing with someone who's deeply drugged, so I zipped up and told her that I need to go as I was way past my time. She said. "yeah, I need to get a good night's sleep (its early evening then) because I have so many clients, I need some rest." I decided to scoot.

So here are my questions:

- Should I write a review that could really hurt her? [she does not have a single bad review]
- Although I had sex (nothing to completion), I picked up my envelope in case she walked in with cops, so should I somehow reach out and pay her something?
- If she is in fact pissed (when she wakes up from her stupor), she has info about me. Although it's RS2K verification, if she googles my name, she'll find out everything including where I live, so she can seriously harass me. [by the way, in the world of facebook and google, what's the role of RS2k when I have to give the provider my full name?]
- given her past reviews, could it be anti-depressants or other medications rather than hard
- finally, if she's a druggie (which I am sure she is) what extra risk does she pose? Should I get tested?

[Before you ask, I am deliberately using an alias so neither me nor the provider is implicated]


morrisboy 1018 reads
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2 / 51
gentleandnaughty 6 Reviews 1647 reads
posted
3 / 51

I can guess who your talking about....  I had practically the exact same experience...  seemingly heavily drugged...  the whole time it was like she was in slow motion.

As for the review...  its a review... be honest.  it will help others. its ok to be negative if you had a negative experience.  you should pay her though... at least something.   my .02.

Posted By: X123456
Today I saw a provider in Chicago who has about a dozen very good reviews (mostly 8+). The experience went from pretty good to bizarre (see below). But given her past glowing reviews, should I give her the benefit of doubt or write a review for her? I am also a bit scared of pissing her off because she has too much info about me. What should I do (hence my alias)? See below for details.

She has good reviews from some of the known members of this community, hence I decided to see her. It all started well enough - the emails, the phone calls, the first 20 minutes of the meeting - consistent with her reviews and my expectations. 20 minutes into the date, she seemed to be asleep (I hope I am not that boring!). I woke her up and she apologized, said something about how her cousin who's a cop will make sure everything was ok, went to the bathroom and did not come out for at least 20 mins. Since she took her phone with her to the bathroom, I am not sure if she was calling other customers or her cousin cop. She comes out, gives me a deep kiss and then we start going again, when she says that she just remembered that some of her friends were coming to visit her, so she needs to go down, talk to them and send them away, "dont go anywhere, sweetie, I'll be right back". She dresses up, asks me to button her dress, leaves with a DFK. I start wondering what if she comes back with cops, so I fully dress up, remove all incriminating evidence (including the donation that I had left on the mantel which she hadn't opened, the half used condom - what if there's DNA evidence?); I did not quite want to leave because she practices from her pretty upscale apartment and her complex has only one elevator and I did not want to bump into her with her cop cousin. She comes back, apologizes, gives me a deep kiss, asks "why are you dressed honey, I'll make it for you, dont worry about time", removes her clothes, opens my fly, starts a superb BJ"; Just as I am thinking that everything is OK, she asks, "what's your name again? My name is .... " (which is different from her stage name, so I assume that's her real name), extends her hand to shake mine; Amusing in retrospect - you are introducing yourself formally to a girl while she's giving you a bj - that's when I realized that I am probably dealing with someone who's deeply drugged, so I zipped up and told her that I need to go as I was way past my time. She said. "yeah, I need to get a good night's sleep (its early evening then) because I have so many clients, I need some rest." I decided to scoot.

So here are my questions:

- Should I write a review that could really hurt her? [she does not have a single bad review]
- Although I had sex (nothing to completion), I picked up my envelope in case she walked in with cops, so should I somehow reach out and pay her something?
- If she is in fact pissed (when she wakes up from her stupor), she has info about me. Although it's RS2K verification, if she googles my name, she'll find out everything including where I live, so she can seriously harass me. [by the way, in the world of facebook and google, what's the role of RS2k when I have to give the provider my full name?]
- given her past reviews, could it be anti-depressants or other medications rather than hard
- finally, if she's a druggie (which I am sure she is) what extra risk does she pose? Should I get tested?

[Before you ask, I am deliberately using an alias so neither me nor the provider is implicated]


Captain_Obvious 1362 reads
posted
4 / 51

Then what exactly do you plan to review? Its only an appt if a service is rendered and compensated for, correct? From the sounds of it, you got your joint worked for free by some girl you just met. You have no reason to complain. Count your blessings

Axxel 15 Reviews 1344 reads
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5 / 51

I would wait a couple of weeks and post a rather generic version of your encounter.  Fill in enough of the details to warn and inform your fellow hobbiests and try to leave out the ones that may have been very unique to your encounter.  

   I had a very similar situation with VanessaSue many years ago when she had a legion of white knights and thats how I handled it.

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 1948 reads
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6 / 51
copulate69 12 Reviews 1524 reads
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7 / 51

Yes, please add me to the PM list as well. Thank you very, very much!!

X123456 1474 reads
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8 / 51

It looks like many are focusing on the payment part. I am happy to pay her (although there was very little sex - less than 10 mins during 1.5 hours and the girl was distracted the whole time) but I dont know how without revisiting her.

My bigger question is: a person like this, what dangers does she pose from an LE and STD standpoint? How can I fairly warn others without drawing her ire?

Mike_H 14 Reviews 1446 reads
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9 / 51

Writing reviews of providers is a personal choice.  The things to consider when making the write/no write decision are the same for your encounter as most others.  Its not a big deal one way or the other.  Your word is not gold and it will be taken with a grain of salt like the others (her previous reviews weren't much help to you, were they?) Thinking that there is cop behind every corner, Hyper-paranoia about catching something from someone who appears to be on drugs - perhaps you don't belong in the hobby.  BTW, when you met her, entered her room, and left the jinga, you made the decision to pay her.  When you voluntarily left with the bacon you committed theft.  The question isn't whether you should write a review or (lol) get tested, its "Do I pay her back?"  After all, you said you picked it up to conceal incriminating evidence (not because of dissatisfaction), you left voluntarily, and she did, or was about to, provide the services you paid for.

Dr Who revived 1015 reads
posted
10 / 51

I had a session with a well reviewed provider a while back that had some similar characteristics as you talk about...however falling asleep and leaving the incall was not part of this.  However, I do believe that the second half of the session she did change somewhat in her persona, but ultimately the session was mostly enjoyable with no significant problems.  I do suspect that some chemicals were in play, but I didn't feel it hampered the session enough to highlight this in a review, as this was only my take on the situation.

Had your situation happened to me, I may very well have left immediately as the circumstances you describe would appear to be dangerous.  You don't say whether she contacted you regarding the donation, so I assume she did not.  That begs the question as to whether you could even have a review posted as you did not actually pay for the session.  

As far as outing her here, it may behoove you to attempt a review as this could ultimately be a disaster for some hobbyist.  I for one would like to know who you are talking about so if I even had the urge to see her, I would undoubtedly avoid based on this set of facts (or at least be on notice of a problem).  If you prefer to keep this anonymous, send me a PM so at least one other hobbyist could avoid this situation.

Hardwood469 18 Reviews 903 reads
posted
11 / 51

Relieve your mind. Then contact the lady to pay her so you don't live in fear of getting your knees broken. Put it behind you. Tell me bc who you're talkin' about.

asiantantric 163 Reviews 2390 reads
posted
12 / 51

who it was. It would help out a lot.

movingrightalong 29 Reviews 1068 reads
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13 / 51

We would not be having this discussion if people weren't afraid to write reviews because they gave the girl their real named and villages. There's two, maybe three people who've seen this potential train wreck, but no potentially career ending review for fear of retaliation.

How old was her last review.

And I'd like a PM too

energizerHoney 3 Reviews 826 reads
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15 / 51
redhot See my TER Reviews 1061 reads
posted
16 / 51

It sounds like she has issues.  She is far from the only girl (or guy) out there that does...  

Heavy drug use is a risk factor for STI/HIV transmission for two reasons: diminished capacity at keeping boundaries/using protection, and if they are an IV drug user, shared needles increase risk of HIV.  I like Hardwood's advice-get tested just so you can put it behind you and not have the concern continually come up later.  

If you plan on writing an honest review, more then likely she will perceive that as being hurtful to her business.  More then likely it *will* effect it in some way, but it's also an easy thing for girls to blame a review on hurting their business instead of taking responsibility for how they are handling things...  

If you do not want to deal with potential fallout: don't write the review and just pass it bc.  

Re: paying her, I would actually contact her, tell her ~why~ you picked up the money in the first place, reiterate ~why~ you left early (her erratic behavior, concerns over safety and her seeming drug haze) and that you did not get the session you had planned on.  Apologize for not addressing it before you left in haste (given the situation) and ask her what she wants to do about the money you picked up.  She may apologize and tell you to keep it with no worries...she may say just send her part or half for her time, but not all because you didn't get a complete session, or she may demand full payment.  In any event, be prepared to pay full amount...there should be a discreet way for you to do this without having to see her directly...and then you can walk away with a clear conscience on that.  

Good luck~

xoM

nealml 4 Reviews 763 reads
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17 / 51
X123456 714 reads
posted
18 / 51

Megan - thanks for the advice. I do appreciate you pointing out the diminished capacity for decision making. In fact, she tried to put the condom on me, struggled a bit and then reversed it - inside out. Which means essentially the condom was now useless (though we did not do much with the condom on as she had fallen asleep)!

JackTripper 29 Reviews 723 reads
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19 / 51
VinnieChase 30 Reviews 741 reads
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20 / 51
joe_shabotz 1 Reviews 1874 reads
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21 / 51
Cuddles Fosdick 71 Reviews 846 reads
posted
24 / 51

You say she fell asleep, then woke up and said "her cousin who's a cop will make sure everything is ok." Either you left something out or she was still in a near dream state or was hallucinating. Which fits everything else you say, including not remembering your name.

The whole thing sounds surreal.

If she has a good reputation (and it's deserved) then why not give it a couple of days and reach out to her and explain your concern?  

At this point, you don't even know if the cousin exists or is a fantasy.

Kosmik26 667 reads
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26 / 51
Seeker717 24 Reviews 1085 reads
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27 / 51


Great advice all around (as usual), especially about how to handle payment.  That is the same advice I was going to give.

Seeker717 24 Reviews 850 reads
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28 / 51
Seeker717 24 Reviews 1227 reads
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29 / 51

Because of her somewhat disoriented, delusional state, I would suggest that you reach out to her, explain to her your concerns and try to find out what's going on with her.  Something doesn't seem quite right and she may need some professional help.  Make sure you work out the payment issue as well.

Sinful1 See my TER Reviews 1039 reads
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30 / 51

Why are you asking about STD''s?  Were there needle tracks on her arm?  Did she offer BBFS?  

You have a choice to make.  You can:

A) write the provider and tell her you were dissatisfied and why.  How she takes that is anyone's guess.  Give her aq chance to explain. Who knows?  She may have had a recent tragedy..

B) write a review.  Admin will decide if its worth adding based upon the fact that not payment was made.

C) offer the info via PM to gents who inquire.

D) do nothing and consider it a lesson learned.


In any event, be sure you. Can substamntiate your comments.  Not that thia is the case* but if her repitation has been solid, people might question your motivwsm



Illinois1962 18 Reviews 742 reads
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31 / 51
HangingwithBears 839 reads
posted
32 / 51

You'd think by now she'd realize she didn't get paid. Would any sane provider not be ranting about getting stiffed? If she hasn't gone off on you about not paying her, that says a lot about her state of mind.

Remember that past reviews are history. Things change in people's lives and it sounds like there has been a radical and disturbing change in this provider's life. Your description of her behavior leads me to only one conclusion and if so, any money you give her will not be put to good use.

Try contacting her and if she's lucid enough, you should reach some sort of agreement regarding partial payment. She doesn't sound dangerous but rather like she's left the planet. My guess is she doesn't even remember the appointment with you.

guysmiles 78 Reviews 1205 reads
posted
33 / 51

To address your main concern, You should get tested.  I would hope that all involved in this hobby are tested regularly.   Yes, I know everyone doesn't but, this is why things are covered as well.  Her altered state could be from what she took or not taken ( i.e. medicine).  So basicly, get tested.

Payment.  Your date happened, out of the ordinary and not completely, but it happened.  You should pay her something.  Like Megan said, be prepared to pay in full.  Write a honest review, it could be her wake-up call or just a bump in the road.  

PM those whom requested more info, I am one of them. You warned others.

I'm just guessing but she sounds like she is an indy.  If and when you recontact her for payment, she might have an explanation for the behavior.

billybuck 690 reads
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34 / 51
iwindsor 3 Reviews 716 reads
posted
35 / 51

my guess is, she won't even remember. Please add me to your extensive PM list.

massager1 1 Reviews 895 reads
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36 / 51

I understand the concern about her retaliating in some way but the point of this site is to share information. I would think a review that warns of poor performance, a possible health risk (if she indeed is a drug user) and a safety concern... since you don't know who she went to meet would be important. You can just state the facts without making your own conclusions and let the readers draw their own.

massager1 1 Reviews 803 reads
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37 / 51
lochnessmonster 1486 reads
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38 / 51

Based on what you have described I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about and I had a very similar experience. I think she was either drunk or maybe bipolar.

CallMeBooger 59 Reviews 624 reads
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39 / 51

I'm wondering the same thing as one of the previous posters.  Has she reached out to you about the missing payment?

If yes, figure out a discreet way to pay her and move along.

If no, as my old boss would say "don't wake a sleeping dog".  Since she has all your personal information, it's best not to do anything that might provoke her, especially if she is on some form of drug(s).  Now ladies don't jump on me for this, I do think he should have left the money, but I don't blame him for being nervous given the circumstances.

With that being said, if she does know your TER name and real life name, then I would suggest not writing a review.  Protect yourself first, then given out the name via PM.  And again please PM me the name.

onlyoneway 4 Reviews 621 reads
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40 / 51

PM info. if possible.  Thanks and good luck with all.

Posted By: X123456
Today I saw a provider in Chicago who has about a dozen very good reviews (mostly 8+). The experience went from pretty good to bizarre (see below). But given her past glowing reviews, should I give her the benefit of doubt or write a review for her? I am also a bit scared of pissing her off because she has too much info about me. What should I do (hence my alias)? See below for details.

She has good reviews from some of the known members of this community, hence I decided to see her. It all started well enough - the emails, the phone calls, the first 20 minutes of the meeting - consistent with her reviews and my expectations. 20 minutes into the date, she seemed to be asleep (I hope I am not that boring!). I woke her up and she apologized, said something about how her cousin who's a cop will make sure everything was ok, went to the bathroom and did not come out for at least 20 mins. Since she took her phone with her to the bathroom, I am not sure if she was calling other customers or her cousin cop. She comes out, gives me a deep kiss and then we start going again, when she says that she just remembered that some of her friends were coming to visit her, so she needs to go down, talk to them and send them away, "dont go anywhere, sweetie, I'll be right back". She dresses up, asks me to button her dress, leaves with a DFK. I start wondering what if she comes back with cops, so I fully dress up, remove all incriminating evidence (including the donation that I had left on the mantel which she hadn't opened, the half used condom - what if there's DNA evidence?); I did not quite want to leave because she practices from her pretty upscale apartment and her complex has only one elevator and I did not want to bump into her with her cop cousin. She comes back, apologizes, gives me a deep kiss, asks "why are you dressed honey, I'll make it for you, dont worry about time", removes her clothes, opens my fly, starts a superb BJ"; Just as I am thinking that everything is OK, she asks, "what's your name again? My name is .... " (which is different from her stage name, so I assume that's her real name), extends her hand to shake mine; Amusing in retrospect - you are introducing yourself formally to a girl while she's giving you a bj - that's when I realized that I am probably dealing with someone who's deeply drugged, so I zipped up and told her that I need to go as I was way past my time. She said. "yeah, I need to get a good night's sleep (its early evening then) because I have so many clients, I need some rest." I decided to scoot.

So here are my questions:

- Should I write a review that could really hurt her? [she does not have a single bad review]
- Although I had sex (nothing to completion), I picked up my envelope in case she walked in with cops, so should I somehow reach out and pay her something?
- If she is in fact pissed (when she wakes up from her stupor), she has info about me. Although it's RS2K verification, if she googles my name, she'll find out everything including where I live, so she can seriously harass me. [by the way, in the world of facebook and google, what's the role of RS2k when I have to give the provider my full name?]
- given her past reviews, could it be anti-depressants or other medications rather than hard
- finally, if she's a druggie (which I am sure she is) what extra risk does she pose? Should I get tested?

[Before you ask, I am deliberately using an alias so neither me nor the provider is implicated]


giselle69 See my TER Reviews 978 reads
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41 / 51

Good point Cuddles.  Is it also a possibility she was roophied (sp?)  That happened to me once awhile ago and it makes you really loopy.  I'm just saying...

XXX-Giselle

ziggy440 84 Reviews 709 reads
posted
42 / 51

I would appreciate a PM as well. As for the review, I agree that since you did not pay it is going to be hard to review, but I am not sure how much of a concern that is - either the poor lady in question was just having an awful day and will get her stuff together after that sleep, or the problems will continue and there will be other, bad reviews.

Thanks,
Zig

pkp869 7 Reviews 1294 reads
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43 / 51

If getting tested helps you get back in the right mind set, go get tested.  It's good practice anyway to get tested now and again.  Like others have said, she may have had a tragedy or a side effect of directed prescription drug use.  Hell, you see an add for a new insomnia medication and the list of side effects makes me think insomnia isn't so bad.  Try contacting her (if you haven't already) and explain how you felt.  She could make it up, demand partial compensation, or full compensation.  In respect to a review, that's your call.  Write how you feel, and let whatever happens, happens.

narcissus 13 Reviews 650 reads
posted
45 / 51

There are really only two possibilities given what you described: (1) she is on medication (legal), or (2) she was drunk, stoned, high, etc.    I don't think that merely being psycho would explain what you described (if she was just psycho, she would not have fallen asleep so at least something else was going on with her).

When you call her, I would apologize for leaving, but politely explain that you did not have a good time (not about the sex, see below), was unhappy that she left you in the middle of the date, and then she did not seem to be herself, and you did not want to go any further in case she was drunk or worse.  Say you wanted to talk to her about the situation, but given that she seemed out of it there really wasn't much you could do at the time so you are calling her now, etc.  I would suggest to her that the right thing to do would be to do the date over when she is able to be 100% present and that you would happily pay her, or she can just call it a wash since you wasted your time as well.

Personally, I wouldn't focus on the the sex or partial sex.  In my mind, if a girl shows up and is 100% there but elects not to have sex, you still pay for the date as sex is her decision not a right that you get for the money.  In your case, however, she wasn't even really with you since she was stoned or medicated.  I personally don't think you owe her, or at least not the full amount, but I do you think need to call her immediately and work out something so there are no hard feelings (or worse).

Edwaln 5 Reviews 872 reads
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46 / 51

Please PM infoto me too, please.

madman274 34 Reviews 645 reads
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47 / 51

You can't.  She has your information and could screw you over.  I've seen women here get all pissy over getting a '6' or '7' which when written rang true but was lower than she felt entitled to get.  Don't think some wouldn't play dirty especially a drug addicted one.  

Best bet is to let sleeping dogs lay  or wait a month or two and write a review with enough fudged details as to make it not you.

Posted By: X123456
It looks like many are focusing on the payment part. I am happy to pay her (although there was very little sex - less than 10 mins during 1.5 hours and the girl was distracted the whole time) but I dont know how without revisiting her.

My bigger question is: a person like this, what dangers does she pose from an LE and STD standpoint? How can I fairly warn others without drawing her ire?

NDIB 23 Reviews 676 reads
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48 / 51
jonathoon344 657 reads
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49 / 51

Please pm me also, thanks.

ralphieboy 6 Reviews 1145 reads
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50 / 51

If you can, I would appreciate a PM letting me know who the provider is.  I don't hobby very often (mostly great times,) but have had a couple real bad experiences that I have let go for the same reasons you stated.  If you could le tme know who it was, it would be appreciated.  ralph

wcostigan123 19 Reviews 763 reads
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51 / 51

i would like to know who the provider was to protect myself as well.  

also, i think its very positive you brought some attention toward your complex situation.  i hope things work out for the best!

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