Does anyone know if any of ladies from the agency that was One the best in NC, ncvipangels, are around anymore? Seems like NC has lost a lot of their top providers.  Any recommendations? Been out of the hobby for a couple of years.

Saw the 2 blonde ladies who went Indy after Steve closed the place down.  It has been over 2 years and I do not remember their names.  Best shot is Eros or Tryst.  Always like SBR better than VIP.  Steve was an Asshole.  Had better luck booking his babes once they went Indy.

Yes he was an ass at times.  I saw one lady right after he shut it down. Thank you for the advice

sbr was awesome!!!

Yes, Helen, as in Helen of Troy, is what I called her)  Shame she closed shop and escaped "North To Alaska", LOL If TER can come back, maybe SBR, also;P~~~

Shae is periodically active on Seeking Arrangement as Shae6969 or such. I have not seen her since she was with ncvip, but i can tell from her private photos on SA and her social media that whatever candy she partakes is taking a toll. She also has had a second child since she was with vip.

Janelle (asian african) relocated to Chicago, got implants, and charges 600 minimum. None of the other girls are active in the escort game, at least not publicly and in the greensboro/rdu radius in which ncvip operated. The ones like Kathryn, Ashton,  Ariana, Trixie and Mariah that were with vip when Steve shut it down and initially were active as independents following vip closure were all in reality still being booked by Steve thru emails he set up under the guise of the ladies’ stage names. It is not a coincidence that they all discontinued being active around the same general time - Steve either relocated or found the effort of booking these chicks as UTR independents with all advertising being shut down by the feds as no longer a worthwhile endeavor.

I only saw a couple of SBR chicks, but from my experience I found ncvip chicks on the whole much more to my liking: Younger, tighter but less uptight/business attitude and more gfe,  Yes, Steve could be an ass, but the first few years he was in operation (circa 2012-2015) he had more consistent straight fire young and willing talent at a competitive rate than any north carolina based agency i have utilized in 25 years in the hobby.

There were many great ones  
Ariel, Lyndsey, Amber, Ava,Rachel.
I remember every one telling me the guy tried to hit on them. Not sure if he got any addicted though some were heavily into drugs and unfortunately slipping. Mostly I wonder about Amber and Ava and if they ever pulled through. Pretty sure Ariel transitioned into the real world ok. Rachel showed me pics of how her boyfriend beat her and that was pretty bad, last I heard she went back to him.
I can’t say too much bad about the guy and I would say he wasn’t like a street pimp or even close to that level.

You don't have To be a "street pimp" to abuse ladies working for you. He should have kept his hands and other parts off his "girls".  I'm sure he played it like "if you are giving me some", I'll give you the best clients, more clients, ect. Guys like him play the girls.

The some who were heavily into to drugs, I'm betting they would do anything for him to get more drugs. What went on behind the scenes is what Alli Lux described.  

If really baffles me that clients would see gals on drugs. I know it happens and it's sad. Have there been worse than him, yes, but it doesn't excuse him one bit.

Those are my thoughts. I really feel bad for those ladies. Many feel they deserve the kind of treatment because of low self esteem. Just like the lady who went back t were abusive bf.

If I was a client and a gal was on drugs, I'd either try to help her (which can blow up in your face), or leave a cancellation fee and go.

Steph XO

Hope you are doing well during this crazy year!~

Steph XO

Well, Steph.... I have been taking a breather, just posted a reply to Max.... about memories---Me from JODY to JODY)  You know we talked at times, but I was always "involved" with you know one for sure.  I never had a clue about Steve and what he was to the lil ladies I danced with from his agency---THEY NEVER spoke a word about him to me.  Even the ones I saw couple of times, and 1, or 2 I saw without him as a go between. Makes me sad for those lil ladies(  Maybe AliLux can pvt message me about the two she rescued from his clutches.  Maybe I can feel better knowing at least 2 escaped him, hopefully, the ones I danced with back then. Now that I am easing back into the dancing scene, maybe we can find time to do more than talk)  

I would hardly call his service a bargain entry price point. My understanding is he wouldn’t keep girls on that were using and I never experienced anyone that was but heard others had left because of their using. I don’t really consider this defending the guy, I just never heard the other side of it.

Reading this thread brings back what, for me, was a great experience.  I saw Emilia once.  She was a gem and I was smitten.  She remains one of my favorites and if any of those things were going on with her I missed them completely.  Did she have me thoroughly fooled?  Maybe, but I like to think I have decent sense especially when it comes to drugs.  When I tried to see her again, she was no longer an Angel and I was crushed.  I can only hope that she wasn't abused, as that would ruin one of my favorite memories.