Where does TER's "white list" fall among the verification/referral sites in terms of its use by providers in the Carolinas?  I haven't ever provided my personal information to individual escorts over the years. That may have limited my access to ladies who require their own screening in addition to sites like TER, Date Check, and Preferred 411, but it's important to me.  The last thing I want to do is offend someone like I did a lovely woman a couple of hundred miles away I had wanted to see awhile back.  I clearly screwed up my explanation of why I rely upon provider references and referral services like those she belonged to. Like a lot of fellows, I post reviews (honest ones I believe) on what amount to provider "white lists"/referrals on various sites and respond to requests for information from other hobbyists who contact me from time to time.  That's how the hobbyist side of the system works best.  I sure don't want to waste the time of some of my favorite ladies by asking them to submit a referral on TER if it really doesn't serve the purpose I thought it did.  Any thoughts, ladies

We do not give or ask for references. They really have no meaning. I wont write a book here, but I feel it is basing a date on nothing. We do our own background. If we cannot get enough info to do that, we decline the date. It isn't a matter of being snobs I promise you. And we do not keep ANY info. But a human being is going out on these dates and it would be irresponsible not to have an idea of who it is. I certainly can appreciate that some potential clients cannot feel comfortable giving any info. But then they will have to understand we cannot be careless. We do use P411, but still do a bit of research. It just makes it much faster for everyone. TER really is meaningless when it comes to reference. Anyone can create an account.

Our method is non intrusive. We do not require pics, ID, work place info etc. Very basic info needed to complete any date anyway! We just actually spend a little to make sure everything is OK. Those asking for all of that are doing it because they dont know how or wont pay for an alternative.

Thank you for your response. That's helpful.  Oh, and please remember that two people go on those dates -- both with similar concerns for privacy and safety.

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Yep!
On the other hand... you get reviews to look at! A few googled items and you have a great idea who you are seeing. There is no such place for the girls. No site that reviews clients and gives details. Clients can verify pics, and all manor of info on the girl to ensure he is seeing someone legit!
Oh how i wish   lol

P411 okays and acting snarky and defensive and superior when a lady requires the info she's comfortable with is one of my pet peeves. Trying to make a lady feel like she's wrong to screen her way is rude. Just agree that  it's not going to work politely bodes well for both parties.

And WL are part of my screening if a guy has them. P411 definitely is part of my screening.  That being said I will personally contact ladies for references, and require the full name no matter how many WLs, Okays, ect he has.

This is an old debate here on TER.  It will never be  agreed on completely. But I do take WL into consideration. But not to waive the name issue for me. For other ladies the last name isn't mandatory, and that works for them if the other things are in place.

And your comment about what works best from on hobbyist side is from your point of view and not all hobbyist. Some are fine with it others aren't.

Steph

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I mean you as an agency or any independent can look at a guy's review history and get a sense as to what he is all about.
if a dude has a dozen of so reviews and they are all pretty negative and never seems to have a good time with the " bitches & ho's" ( his words , not mine)  then you probably have a hell of a better idea as to  what one of your ladies is getting into than knowing a dudes full name or home address.

I've had ladies tell me that after reading my reviews that tended to be of well established  and respected Providers that they not only quickly feel comfortable upon meeting me but had little anxiety prior to the session.

So I would argue that TER gives the lady the means to check a guy out. Plus there is the Provider Only Board which I assume is a vehicle for the exchange of info.

Safety first. I'll never argue with a good agency looking out for their ladies. But there are different perspectives to the methodologies .

That is a great theory! However, MOST guys write no reviews. So relying on that wont help in majority of cases. yes, now and then He gives a TER and he will have a few years of feedback, and yes that can be helpful. But I still need to run my check.

No point to whitelist if you aren't willing to use the system in place to help us all stay accountable and safe.  I do not at all feel it is meaningless!  Certainly P411 and date check are excellent resources...I am about people helping each other also however.  I have not found that my friends are not willing to give reviews- it just depends really.  I have relationships and friendships with the men I see regularly and they are either happy to help or just tucking me into their pockets.  Of course, my number, email, or name should never be given without my knowledge and to any lady who is not well reviewed and verifiable.

I think it's kind of weird that ladies cherish their white lists..they give them out rarely but the same lady has hundreds of okays on p411
Is a ter whitelist harder to get than an okay on p411 and is one more valuable
Are reviews just as good as an okay or two provider refs
If I have your phone number and your name and I google you and see your company info is that good enough
If you send a copy of your driver lic is that enough
 2 Providers refs within 3-6 months
Lordy
Everyone has to float their boat
I like some info
I don't need name rank and serial number but I will know when I am comfortable enough
I think the bottom line here is that many ladies blacklist guys for time wasting cancellations no shows
They need your name to run it through the system to see if you are on the list
You could have reviews on here okays on p411 and even whitelisted but also be on a blacklist
Personally I don't look at those sites and I have never blacklisted anyone
For me ter whitelist is like an okay on p411
They are equal
I look at reviews
Best of luck to you


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And to say that I am torn is an understatement.
Now while I can sympathize with the average men, and understand why he TOTALLY does not want his real info out there (And I want ya'll to understand, I GET IT. It is a HUGE RISK, imperitive to your private life and the security of it... I understand mmmkay?)  

From the flip side of the coin-

You know there are a lot of horror stories out there about clients who have "went bad"- (lots of okay's and then one day just decides to start shorting the envelope, or leave it full of paper shreds...) or let a buddy "borrow" his account...
And then we have the worry of....  violence. Same as anyone else can "switch out" at any given time...

 
As a provider... imagine this:

You have a client who you screen through referrals, white lists, and okay's...
Let's say this client gets violent with you during your session...  

What repercussion does TER have for him?  
(Yes, they would try to make the lady PROVE she was attacked and that it WAS indeed him, when in all actuality it may not have even been HIM.)
What accountability do they enforce?
Almost the same issue with p411...
(And I have read countless stories of p411 NOT having a lady's back when something of this nature arises.)
We ladies are each accountable for our own safety.

 
The only safest best a lady has of preventative measures (and yes, I have heard this described by men as a "power play"-) is having his REAL INFO.

It's not like a provider can go to the cops and tell them that "AliasABCD" assaulted me and left me for dead, right?

It honestly boils down to each provider and their own comfort level.... Within the screening websites and blacklist sites, it is one of the most debated heated subjects between the ladies there is. "Screening methods" and some scream at others "theirs is the best" and yada yada... Safety versus confidentiality. (You think all ladies put your confidentiality over their own safety? Not likely...)

I am more likely to think, a provider who has encountered this type of violence herself or within her close circle, is less prone to take okay's and whitelists, than a lady who has not been exposed to this.
Even with that being said, a man can have 100 okay's and still does not guarantee that his behavior will be good;  
Of course the PROBABILITY of having issues is less, imo, nothing makes a guarantee, although having a "real name" "id" place of business generally prevents anything very bad from happening.

I'm torn, I want to be safe as I possibly can, but I really truly despise being made to feel as though I were being invasive;
or of even having TOO Much information (for safety reasons)  and honestly, it's none of my business.
Your real name?
I don't care. (Unless you assult me, then only then, I reckon I will wish I had gotten it, eh?)
I usually only require tougher screening (past okay's/referrals) if he turns up blacklisted.
Then I proceed with caution, as I well ought to.

You just never know...
But as far as TER whitelists?
Meh...
I give more credence to p411 okays...
Although I have given whitelists out myself.

I dunno if I am really answering your questions, but maybe sharing some insight.

Fox

I do not get it

How much REAL information does TER collect from gentleman?
This is not a screening website, it is a review website.

I do know of SOME instances, where men who were on the p411 system, with it being a screening website, when ladies have been assaulted, that the gentleman's real info WAS handed over (be it to the lady or the law, some repercussion was held, now, not saying every case...)
I have NEVER heard of TER doing so.
I may be wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary.

 
I really wish a TER admin would chime in on this.

Foxy

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P411 is known as a verification site only, which members pay an extensive fee to become a member of. They do have an option for reputable providers that can verify their reputable status to be a partial member for a limited time period. I am almost certain that the same rules apply (as a full paying) with him giving them what information is required by them to be a member.  

Ter: is a reviewing site that allows members to sign up for free with the option of paying for a VIP status or earning the VIP by submitting reviews.  

I have seen many clients that have no "white list", review history, or a P411 account.  I screen what is within my comfort zone and have yet ran into any border line disasters. I will ask for them, but sometimes it's not in the cards for some guys and I will find other painless ways to verify.

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If you check out my Whitelists, I currently have three listed, of the three I have had sessions with exactly NONE of them, ZERO.  Any provider can Whitelist any guy for any reason, even if she's never met him and he's in another state. WHY a woman would do this is beyond me, but I am living proof it happens.

Under the current system at P 411 not only does the provider have to give an okay at her discretion, but the guy has to actually request it. It's hardly a perfect system, but out of the several dozen P 411 okays I have, I have had at least one session with every single one of them, and I am confident every one of them would give me a reference if contacted.