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Lets have a discussion about it here. The GB gets clogged up so much its a headache. Besides, Im much more interested in what the members of "my community" have to say about it. Dont really care what some guy 3k miles away says about it.
I firmly believe that TER SHOULD not censor review that mention BBFS.
I feel that everyone should know if a provider is doing this.
Im not saying she/he (provider) should be blacklisted, just state a fact.
Being honest and real about this issue is the only way to contol it.
Thoughts?

If everyone has the right to know if a provider is doing this, I think fair play should come in at this point & label the hobbyist who partakes in such a high risk behavior. If a review is going to be written it should have to be done by a searchable handle.  Do we really need alias bbfs reviews? Beside I want to know who is pointing the finger at who.

Won't this be more YMMV like something a provider should decide if it should be made for public consumption? I just have a hard time wrapping my brain around a provider who would want to do such activities numerous times a day/week.  

Okay, I'm really conflicted on this.  I am reminded of the military's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy and also the lyrics from a song "Don't bite off more than you can chew.  There's things down here the devil himself wouldn't do."

If I assume there is going to be modifications to the profiles indicating BBFS is available, my first concern is - Who is going to control this in the "services offered" section of the profile?  Can it be changed if someone submits a problem report saying "I got BBFS so this is her new service." Is is subject to being changed if the review approver sees BBFS in the juicy details section of the review?  I have said before and I'll say it again.  There is only one person who should have any control over the services offered section and that is the Provider herself.  I can see lots of abuse by pissed off clients or jealous providers if this isn't carefully controlled. I can think of many ways to fool the system and I'm sure some of you can too.

That out of the way.  I'm sure it will divide the community.  Clients will not see providers who offer BBFS and the Ladies will step up screening so as to not see clients who might have done BBFS with another provider.

If I see a BBFS provider and I don't review her or ask her for references who knows?

Will it be a YMMV item.  I think thats a definite  --  HELL YES!!  as it should be.  This is definitely a ladies choice offering.

Would I see a lady I knew had done BBFS?  --  Maybe.  It would really depend on the lady

Would I specifically search for a BBFS provider -- No

For now I'm really thinking we need to leave the system like it is so we can all act outraged when someone whispers or shouts BBFS.  We all know that it happens and will continue to happen.  Lets just acknowledge that it does and move on as safely as we feel we must.

No name calling, no finger pointing, no back stabbing. Life is too short for so much drama.

A poster on another board said "I am young in my late 30's so i have to extra careful.  but some of these old guys in this forum like in 50's figure, who cares ?  By the time, if they get AIDS, and it becomes active, they will be in their 80's and they are gonners anyway.."

Just so the little shit knows...  I'm more careful with my health now in my 60's than I ever was in my 30's when I was invincible.


Posted under my real alias so those that don't know me can see how screwed up and confused I can get.

I do reserve the right to change my mind at any time without notice.

There are ways around it.  FC2, Russian, Italian, HJ, the list goes on.

You're saying that you would like to have the option to go bareback sometimes?

But it's obvious that he said he'd like the option to shop for it since he's older (paraphrasing).

I guess he feels like a great feeling may be worth the risk since he's 50 plus. What's the average life expectancy for men these days...75, or higher? Nothing like taking a gamble in your "golden years"-NOT!

Ladies the openly advertise bbfs (is there anyone here THAT stupid?) just increase your chances of getting something that will stay with you for the rest of your life, however long that may be. Never mind other STDs. Who wants to go thru that if they don't have to?

Shit happens here that shouldn't that's just logic. Add shopping for someone who openly does it as an option, illogical.

I'm sure the ladies he's reviewed are not getting all warm and fuzzy right now.

I'm against BBFS.  This is something that should be shared with a couple or marriage.


That is something I am saving for marriage lol.   I enjoy using the condom.  Most of the ladies I see are so moist I can't tell its on .  I'm guessing there using that KY or some sort of sexual product.


Oh.. Getting back to the original question I think it should be mentioned in reviews.  However, there needs to be some sort of checks in balance in place to keep fake reviews from posting.

-- Modified on 11/23/2011 8:31:57 AM

Absolutely include it in ads and reviews.  As an older man, I would like to have that option sometimes.

Agree 100% with your thoughts.
BBFS, IMHO, is another way to play Russian Roulette( HOWEVER, there is a quick test to eliminate the most deadly consequence of BBFS, cheek swabs at many PPH clinics, BOTH you and provider go together, get the 20 min test, and go your merry way;P This is the only way to practice what we use to enjoy in the 70s safely, for the most part. Other STDs are still on the table, with a 24 to 72 hr turn around time for additional tests.

NOW, I see providers posting that they are PG, sooooooooo, in order to get this way, would it be reasonable to assume that they have been doing BBFS with SOMEONE(S).

SO, who pays for the above test? Providers with built in additional fees to cover, OR the guys, who wish to enjoy this wonderful feeling that just cannot be experienced with a cover, HOWEVER, the FC2 is as close as you will ever get to the REAL thing;P  Just lube that Johnson really well, and give his and the Kitty's heat a minute to "melt" the material and then ENJOY a trip back in time;P

I am a 50-something [older] guy too and have the same problem with a cover.  But I also have a lot of biomedical education and agree with Sphinxnc that there are a lot of ways around this problem that will help you become a healthy 60-something or 70-something guy.  It isn't worth if for the providers and it sure as heck isn't worth it for someone with a lot of active life in front of them.  Yes some people survive many years with new medications - but you really don't want to trade places with them.  It is still a very unpleasant disease even with modern treatment - and your immune system isn't going to get stronger as you get older so the medications may not work quite so well as you enter your 60s or 70s.

You are correct. That is why I stand to make a lot of money with funerals with all the folks doing bbfs in the hobby.

... doesn't mean they don't HIV it COULD only mean the test can't detect it at the time of testing (too early). So telling someone a quick rapid test and they are good to go is a little misleading.

Good catch!
This test will detect HIV-1 and 2 6 weeks post infection. Symptoms of such infection usually appear from 10 days to a few weeks post acquiring same.
Appears like flu, mono, and may include fever, fatigue, rash, sore throat that then disappears(
There is NO safe way to BB now, just some so so efforts to be safe for those so inclined. SO, would you say for those determined to BB to make note of WHEN they may have had such symptoms as noted above, and then abstain for at least 6 weeks before the test? Kinda puts crimp in revenues for providers, and clients want it NOW, sooo, this is such a complicated disease(

... test can pick it up as early as 3wks post-exposure but aren't particularly most accurate more or less until at least 3 months after actual exposure. But 6wks is a decent window to abstain while testing but they should do a few more follow-ups. Always best to get a blood test with your rapid test (I don't trust the 20 min test by itself).   Another that mimics sympotms shared with hiv, flu and mono is acute bronchitis.  Anyways imo beyond bbbj (i'll admint becoming cbj only is looking tempting lately) or daty, folks should leave bb vaginal or anal to their wives/husband/long-term so's. Not between hobbyists/providers even if you're single.

I won't say ignore any of those symptoms stated though because if anyone has those symptoms sexually active or not they should go to the hospital anyways and we need to keep in mind some folks never get any kind of symptoms (1/2 of the infected don't know they have it).

In the end...it's seriously best just not to purposely engage in bbfs/bbgreek or even want to have it as an option.

-- Modified on 11/25/2011 3:09:28 PM

I think adding BBFS to a provile would be helpful.  

I would call it a warning label.  Cause this dude aint going there.  Yes raincoats take away sensitivity.  But I wouldnt want not to have one.  And thus far none of the ladies I have been with ever offered it and I thank them.

Trouble is like Sphinx pointed out is who controls these services offered????  Some Jack Ass tosses it on a ladies profile then I am all nervous.  Why doesnt TER staff check with the lady before making a mod on services??  I am always willing to help the ladies 'fix' thier services if they ask.  But I have noticed that a reviewer must fill in all the data on a provider and it isnt looked at for an update.

if anyone ever DARES to suggest BBFS or attempt it...I WILL taser you, mase you...handcuff you to the bed and call everyone in your phone to tell them about you.  I have always made it clear that BBFS is UNACCEPTABLE in this hobby...you want to fuck around without a condom...stick to your wife or get a girlfriend...not a provider.